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Jeff Smith, Brandin Echols Out; Lamarcus Joyner Questionable

Jeff Smith, Brandin Echols Out; Lamarcus Joyner Questionable

The Friday injury report shows that Jeff Smith and Brandin Echols will be out. That is good news for the Jets’ other players at wide receiver, as they should have their top 5 options. With Mike White returning and the game being a must-win, it is nice to have the ability to spread the ball around.

Robert Saleh said other than Smith and Echols being out, they feel good about everyone else. This means Lamarcus Joyner, who is listed as questionable, seems to be expected to play. Saleh chimed in on Joyner:

It’s good. Again, he’s an explosive player back there. He’s hair-trigger in a sense, and he’s 99 percent right when he does trigger. So, when that ball snaps, post-snap, he’s as good as anybody.

The full injury report for both the Jets and Seattle Seahawks appears below. You can read more about the upcoming game in the Jet Nation forums.

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This Article Was Written By Phil Sullivan

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I started JetNation in 2005 and have been a New York Jets season ticket holder since graduating from high school. My dream is to see the New York Jets win the Super Bowl. Until then, I will be right here on JetNation writing, dreaming and talking NY Jets football.



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Corey Davis player props odds, tips and betting trends for Week 17 | Jets vs. Seahawks

December 30, 2022 10:59 pm ET

For Sunday’s game, which kicks off at 4:05 PM ET on FOX, bookmakers have issued player prop bet markets on Corey Davis. Davis and the New York Jets (7-8) hit the field against the Seattle Seahawks (7-8) in a Week 17 matchup at Lumen Field.

Corey Davis Week 17 Player Props

  • Matchup: New York Jets at Seattle Seahawks
  • Time: 4:05 PM
  • Date: January 1, 2023
  • Receiving Yards Prop: Over 37.5 (-120)

Davis Receiving Stats and Trends

  • Davis is averaging 43.1 receiving yards, 5.6 more than the over/under of 37.5 set for Sunday.
  • In 40.0% of his games this season (six of 15), Davis has totaled over 37.5 receiving yards.
  • Davis’ season average of 43.1 receiving yards is 8.4 more than his average over/under (34.7).
  • Davis has gone over on his prop for receiving yards in six of 11 games this season.
  • In two of 11 games this season, Davis has a touchdown catch, but no games with more than one.

Jets Vs. Seahawks Stats and Trends

  • The 217.9 yards per game the Seahawks are conceding through the air makes them the NFL’s 17th-ranked pass defense.
  • The Seahawks have the NFL’s 31st-ranked defense against the run, allowing 155.5 yards per game.
  • Defensively, the Jets have been a top-five unit in terms of passing yards, ranking fifth-best by giving up just 195.5 passing yards per game. They rank 15th on offense (224.7 passing yards per game). 
  • The Jets are totaling 104.9 rushing yards per game on offense, which ranks them 24th in the NFL. On the other side of the ball, they rank 11th, giving up 113.9 rushing yards per contest. 
  • The Jets are putting up 5.5 yards per play on offense (20th in the league), while sporting the best yards per play on defense in the NFL (5.1) this season.



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3 keys to a NY Jets victory in Week 17 against the Seahawks

Dec 30, 2022
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NY Jets, Mike White 

On Sunday, the NY Jets will travel to the west coast to take on the Seattle Seahawks in a must-win game for the team. This game will also mark the return of Mike White since fracturing his ribs in the Week 13 loss to the Buffalo Bills.

Here are the three keys to a Jets victory.

3. Contain Kenneth Walker

It's no secret that the Jets have an incredibly solid run defense. However, this week against Seattle will be a real test for the Gang Green defense. Kenneth Walker has taken over the RB1 role in Seattle and he has been playing very well.

Last week against the Chiefs, Walker ran for 106 yards on 26 attempts. He is known to break for long runs as well, rushing for a 20-yarder last week. On the season, Walker has 803 yards on 176 attempts. He's averaging 4.6 yards per rush and has also picked up nine touchdowns so far.

The Jets' defense has to be careful with how they go about containing Walker. Walker could break for an explosive run with ease if given the opportunity to. The Jets' defensive line has to step up and not let him get the space he needs to break free.

2. Geno Smith's revenge game?

It's no secret that this could be a trap game for the Jets. Geno Smith surely had this game circled on his calendar. The former Jets quarterback will be starting against his former team on Sunday and hopes to have a big day.

The Jets' pass defense could be on their heels all day. Smith is eighth in the NFL in passing yards with 3,886, tied for fourth in touchdowns with 27, and has a quarterback rating of 63.4 which is fifth in the league. With the Seahawks' incredibly talented receiving group, Smith could make the Jets pay if they make any mistakes in the secondary

However, with Mike White back at the helm for the Jets, expect this game to be more even than it would be had Zach Wilson been starting. White has a completion percentage of 62 percent on the season and has thrown for 952 yards, three touchdowns, and two interceptions.

1. Don't crumble under the pressure

While this key is pretty self-explanatory, it's arguably the biggest key to a Jets victory. With the wild card race as close as it is, the Jets hold their destiny in their own hands. For the Jets to make the playoffs, they need a little help, but the biggest thing they have to do is win.

With such a young team, this could be easier said than done. However, the coaches and players must remember just to take it one game at a time.

Going into Sunday and during the game, the Jets have to remain focused on the task at hand before worrying about what could be their biggest game of the season in the final week against Miami.



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How To Watch NY Jets vs. Seahawks: Live Stream and Game Predictions



Dec 30, 2022

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The NY Jets will travel to Lumen Field in Week 17 to take on the Seattle Seahawks with their season very much on the line. A loss this Sunday will officially eliminate the Jets from playoff contention while a win could set up a win-and-in scenario in Week 18.

The Jets have lost four consecutive games and are in desperate need of a bounce-back victory. Fortunately, Week 17 will see the return of quarterback Mike White after two weeks on the sideline healing his broken ribs.

White will try to lead the Jets to victory against a Seahawks team that has fallen on hard times as well as of late. Seattle has lost five of their last six games and has failed to score more than 13 points in each of their last two outings.

Both teams are playing for their postseason lives, but only one can emerge victorious. Let's take a look at everything you need to know about this cross-conference matchup.

How to Watch NY Jets vs. Seahawks

The Jets/Seahawks game will be airing live on FOX starting at 4:05 p.m. ET. Chris Myers and Robert Smith will be on the call.


How to Stream NY Jets vs. Seahawks

For streaming purposes, there are a few options you can use. We recommend using FuboTV. Please consider that regional blackout rules will apply to some services. Here are some other streaming options for the game:

  • NFL+ (mobile only)
  • Hulu + Live TV
  • YouTubeTV
  • Sling TV
  • Paramount Plus (if the game is broadcast locally)

How to Listen to NY Jets vs. Seahawks

You can listen to the NY Jets vs. Seahawks on ESPN New York 98.7 FM with Steve Levy and Sal Palantonio on the call.

NY Jets vs. Seahawks Kickoff Time and Location

The Jets' Week 17 game against the Seahawks will be held at Lumen Field in Seattle, Washington. Kickoff is scheduled for 4:05 pm ET.

What is the weather for NY Jets vs. Seahawks

The weather for Sunday's game will be 44 degrees and mostly cloudy with 2 mph southwest winds.

NY Jets vs. Seahawks History

The Seahawks lead the all-time series 12-8 and have won their last four games against the Jets. The Jets haven't beaten the Seahawks since December 2004, when Chad Pennington was at quarterback.

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Tua Tagovailoa officially out with concussion at New England

By ALANIS THAMESPosted on December 30, 2022
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FILE – Miami Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa (1) gets tackled by Green Bay Packers linebacker Kingsley Enagbare (55) after passing the ball to Dolphins tight end Durham Smythe (81), during the first half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Dec. 25, 2022, in Miami Gardens, Fla. Tagovailoa has officially been ruled out for Sunday’s game at New England after suffering a concussion in Miami’s Christmas Day loss to Green Bay. (AP Photo/Jim Rassol, File)

Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has officially been ruled out for Sunday’s game at New England after suffering a concussion in Miami’s Christmas Day loss to Green Bay.

Miami coach Mike McDaniel said Friday that Tagovailoa is still in the NFL’s concussion protocol and is day to day as he focuses on his health.

“He’s better than the day before,” McDaniel said. “But I’m also trying to get a team ready to play this game, and it really doesn’t do anybody any service to over talk the scenario where he’s got to be focused on his health and nothing else.”

Teddy Bridgewater will lead Miami in Sunday’s critical division matchup, which will be a factor in whether the Dolphins clinch their first postseason berth since 2016. The Dolphins can clinch the playoffs with a win and a New York Jets loss to Seattle, or a tie combined with a Jets loss and Pittsburgh Steelers loss or tie.

For Tagovailoa, it’s not clear when, or if, he’ll return to the field, but many current and former players have expressed concern for his long-term health after his second confirmed concussion of the season. 

McDaniel has appeared equally concerned for his 24-year-old starting quarterback, but has chosen his words carefully, offering few details on Tagovailoa’s future. He said Friday that he has blocked out outside opinions “diligently” regarding Tagovailoa’s health.

“I haven’t read or talked or heard anything outside of doing my job with the people that I work with,” McDaniel said. “I think from an integrity standpoint, it’s important for me to do everything for the right reasons and not have influences either way with whatever the situation is.”

Tagovailoa was previously concussed in a Week 4 loss to Cincinnati on a play that knocked him unconscious and caused him to be stretchered off the field. 

That was four days after he was allowed to return to a game against Buffalo after he appeared disoriented following a hit. It was an unsettling scene as Tagovailoa wobbled when he tried to get back on his feet, and the NFL later changed its concussion protocol to mandate that any player who shows possible concussion symptoms — including a lack of balance or stability — sit out the remainder of a game.

When he returned for Miami’s Week 7 matchup against Pittsburgh, Tagovailoa spoke about how stressful the whole process had been.

“It’s been a process, that’s for sure,” Tagovailoa said in October. “Having to deal with the interviews with the NFL and the NFLPA and then having to go and see doctors outside with second opinions … but all of it is done for player safety. I’m glad that I got to go through those things to kind of understand more of the deals of concussions and the effects.”

Tagovailoa’s brother, Maryland quarterback Taulia Tagovailoa, told the Associated Press on Thursday that he does worry about his brother’s long term health, given how much information is available on Chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, the progressive brain condition caused by repeated blows to the head.

“That’s my brother,” he said. “I want him to always be safe, but at the same time play the game that he loves and do what he loves to do and see him happy. In life I feel like we all have to make those tough decisions, regardless of what he feels like doing at the moment. There are lot more years and a lot of more time too, because he’s still young.”

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Robert Saleh: Time for Jets to 'get off the mat and get ready to fight'

'It's not about the playoffs. It's about getting off the mat.'

12/30/2022 2:45pm

While the Jets’ path to the playoffs is not entirely in their hands, head coach Robert Saleh said he would not be scoreboard watching before Sunday’s game in Seattle.

“I’m sure human nature we’re gonna glance at it,” Saleh said about the early kickoff between division rivals New England and Miami. “But, again, unless we take care of ours it doesn’t matter.”

A win by the Dolphins -- along with a Jets win later on Sunday afternoon -- sets up a winner-take-all game for the last AFC Wild Card spot in the final week of the season in Miami. And while the focus is the playoffs, his young team rebounding from four defeats in four December games is at the top of Saleh's mind.

“Like I’ve said all week … it's not about the playoffs. It's about getting off the mat,” Saleh said Friday. “Had a rough December. Luckily we get a new month, [Sunday’s] game is happening in January.

“Take a deep breath, get off the mat and get ready to fight.”

If all goes according to plan, the Jets could see themselves off the mat and in the fight for a playoff spot in a game flexed to prime time on Jan. 8. 

"It's not easy to get to the playoffs, it is hard to win football games in this league," Saleh said. "You just got to cherish every moment and when you get these opportunities you want to seize it."

He added: "At the same time, you don't want to make it bigger than anything else, cause, again, you got to stay in the moment and just do your best."

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Jets Must Find Running Game to Keep Playoff Hopes Alive

New York's run game has been struggling for a long time, a big reason why the Jets have lost five of their last six games.

Forget the Jets' quarterback carousel, inopportune lapses on defense and failed comebacks.

If there's one trend that has had a direct impact on New York's ability to win games this year, especially during this recent losing streak, it's the success of the run game.

The Jets are winless (0-7) in 2022 when they rush for fewer than 84 yards in a game. They're almost perfect (7-1) when they rush for 93-plus yards.

Just look at this month. New York lost all four of their games in December, averaging 78 yards on the ground per game. 


I think not.

Of course, this is more complex than simply blaming New York's running back room. The Jets have had issues on the offensive line, trying to limp through the final few weeks of the year up front. They've also found themselves in passing situations almost every week recently, trying to make up for slow starts on offense. When Zach Wilson was struggling under center, or the Jets were playing in poor winter conditions, opposing defenses have been able to stack the box and make it even more difficult to establish the running game. The shuffle between quarterbacks hasn't helped either, especially when the best running back on this team—rookie Breece Hall—has been out with a season-ending knee injury since late October.

With a clear path to the postseason, starting on Sunday in Seattle, the Jets can wipe away this narrative with one performance. An explosion on the ground against the Seahawks—one of the worst teams in the NFL at stopping the run—would put Gang Green in prime position to bounce back and keep their playoff hopes alive.

Head coach Robert Saleh told reporters on Friday that New York will roll with their "back-by-committee" approach this week, using Zonovan Knight and Michael Carter with a mix of James Robinson and Ty Johnson.

Seattle has allowed an average of 155.5 rushing yards per game this year. Only the 2-12-1 Texas have given up more yards on the ground week-to-week this season. With the Seahawks forced to respect the passing game (as Mike White returns from his rib injury), Knight and Carter could lead the way early and often, setting the tone.

Again, it's more than just those backs, though. It'll take some complementary football to get the job done. Same goes for New York's regular season finale against the Dolphins one week from Sunday.

"We got to get the ball on defense, we’ve got to find a way to get leads early so teams have to force the issue against our defense, so we can be a little bit more opportunistic," Saleh explained to reporters on Friday. "There’s a whole bunch of things, being able to run the ball and kill clock and possess it, move the chains, but it’s not just the run game although that is a big part of it, especially December football. Our team ball hasn’t been clicking to the level it needs to click for us to win those one-score games."

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Seahawks Defensive Coordinator Doesn’t Even Know The Name Of Jets’ Best Wideout Heading Into Their Matchup On Sunday (VIDEO)

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Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinator Clint Hurtt talking to media (left). New York Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson celebrating (right).

Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinator Clint Hurtt botched the name of New York Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson while speaking to the media ahead of Sunday’s matchup.

The Seahawks will try to keep their slim playoff hopes alive when they host the slumping Jets at Lumen Field this Sunday. One of the key matchups to watch in that game? Seahawks rookie star corner Tariq Woolen vs. another rookie standout in Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson.

When a reporter asked Hurtt a question about Woolen, Hurtt said “He’s gotta cover, you know, Chris Garrett, Corey Davis and the rest of these guys…” Of course, the Jets don’t have a player on the team named “Chris Garrett.”


Hurtt was obviously talking about Wilson. Perhaps he was getting Wilson mixed up with New Orleans Saints rookie wideout Chris Olave, who played with Wilson at Ohio State.


The Jets used their second 2022 first-round pick on Wilson, taking him 10th overall with the selection that fittingly came courtesy of Seattle in the 2020 Jamal Adams blockbuster trade. The 22-year-old is in the conversation for Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, with 71 catches for 996 yards and four touchdowns through 16 weeks.

New York was sitting comfortably in the playoff race with a 7-4 record just a month ago, but a four-game losing streak has their season on the ropes. The Jets need to win out and get some help if they’re to end the NFL’s longest active playoff drought (12 years and counting).

Seattle started out 6-3, but they have since dropped five of their last six games. The Seahawks also need a win and plenty of help if they’re to avoid missing the postseason in consecutive years for the first time since Pete Carroll became head coach in 2010.

Kickoff for the Jets-Seahawks game is set for 4:05 p.m. EST.



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*Sidenote: I did not read all of this. 

Keys to the game: 

1. Pass to run the ball. Whether its Zach or White coming back from injury after a two game absence, teams are still stacking the box against the Jets. The Jets will need to pass to open up the run game. Establishing some sort of run game will be critical for a balanced offense. They can't pass it 50 times with White or he will get killed. And they cant just run the ball on every down or the Hawks will stack the box. Pass early to get Mike White comfortable and open up the run game for a balanced offensive attack. 

*Key matchup: Wilson/Davis vs. Tariq Woolen/Mike Jackson. I don't think the Hawks move their corners around much, Woolen is a very good rookie CB. The Jets receivers will need to get open for Mike White to deliver the ball to them quickly.

2. Minimize mistakes on defense: No matter who the Jets have faced, their defense has been very good. Especially keeping teams out of the endzone. The Hawks have an explosive young RB, they have a premier WR in Metcalf and a savvy vet in Lockett. Geno is having a breakout season and the Hawks know how to use their TEs. But the Jets defense has been up to the task regardless of their opponent. HOWEVER. They need to cut down on mistakes- penalties, missed assignments and breakdowns have been killing them in critical situations. 

*Key matchup: Sauce/DJ Reed vs. Metcalf/Lockett. I give the edge to our talented CBs. As always these great WRs will get theirs. But they will be highly limited. I would be surprised if they got more than one TD between the two of them.

3. Special Teams: No surprise here. This will most likely be a close, defensive game. Special teams will be absolutely crucial in this game. Field position. Field goals. Anything and everything the Jets can do to get an edge may very well be the deciding factor. 

*Key Matchups: Mann/Greg the Leg vs. Dickson/Myers. Mann is a very inconsistent punter- edge to the Hawks. Greg the Leg is a power kicker who can hit one from downtown- edge to the Jets. KR/PR- PUSH. 

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5 minutes ago, SoFlaJets said:

Back in the old days when last the Jets were a winning team I used to post the daily News Threads here at JN. It's a pleasure to start them up again. All that has to happen is for the Jets to win tomorrow! Oh yea, BTW, I sent Garrett Wilson the link to that "Seahawks DC Clint Hurtt Botches Garrett Wilson's Name" over on Twitter

So what you're saying is that the Jets used to win when you did this, then you stopped.

So all of this losing is your fault.

Thanks a-hole. ?

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47 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

this season's TD drive rate of 18.4% isn't much higher than Zach Wilson's 17.0%. The NFL's leaders, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, are all at 30%-plus.

not an excuse, because ZW sucks. But this is a major indictment on MLF. 

MLF is a problem 

Anth, nobody has been a bigger Zach Wilson critic that I have but HST, BOTH of those Pats games, had they been called fairly, and correctly could very well have been Jets wins 

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1 hour ago, Anthony Jet said:

this season's TD drive rate of 18.4% isn't much higher than Zach Wilson's 17.0%. The NFL's leaders, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, are all at 30%-plus.

not an excuse, because ZW sucks. But this is a major indictment on MLF. 

MLF is a problem 

yeah but then you see stats like this..

2 hours ago, SoFlaJets said:

Average Drives — White's typical possession in his still-small body of work lasts 6.45 plays and travels 38.6 yards. And that's a healthy average drive. In our unofficial NFL drive stats, 46 QBs have at least 30 drives. Arizona's Kyler Murray leads the league with 6.59 plays/drive. White is No. 2. Yardage-wise, the top five are KC's Mahomes, Miami's Tua Tagovailoa, White, Buffalo's Josh Allen and Philly's Jalen Hurts.

Dating to the 1960 Titans, again unofficial, White, if he maintains his current drive numbers, will finish with the highest number of plays and yards per drive in a season and in a career in franchise history.

or this....


2 hours ago, SoFlaJets said:

 Another thing we know about White is that he finds his receivers (64.4% accuracy)


2 hours ago, SoFlaJets said:

With 952 yards in his three starts this season, White would need 248 passing yards on Sunday at Seattle to join six Jets QBs who threw for 1,200 yards in four consecutive games. With 348 yards, it'd be just him and Ken O'Brien late in the 1985 season as the only Jets with 1,300 yards in that span.

or this....


2 hours ago, SoFlaJets said:

White's seven-game totals have landed among all the league's quarterbacks since 1970. With 168 completions, White is fourth (first is Joe Burrow ,195). With 261 attempts, he's ninth (Burrow, 293). With 1,905 passing yards, he's seventh (Mahomes, 2,149). And he's seventh again with 91 passing first downs (Burrow, 114).

For all Jets QBs in their first seven games, extending the numbers back to 1965 to include Joe Namath's rookie season, White is No. 1 in the above categories

yes the RZ is a problem but MLF seems to do pretty good with White.

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"It's no secret that this could be a trap game for the Jets"


How come nobody let me in on this non secret?   How in the world can this be trap game, the team is playing for their playoff lives?  If they are not up and locked in for this "playoff" game, when will they ever be locked in?  

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Win or lose, Mike White needs to lead TD drives.  Not FG or punt drives.

Also this:



2. Geno Smith's revenge game?

It's no secret that this could be a trap game for the Jets.


Made me laugh on two levels.  

One, that the Jets would be trapped at this point in time.

Two, that Geno Smith, at this point, would have any "revenge" motive/storyline.

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12 minutes ago, Green DNA said:

"It's no secret that this could be a trap game for the Jets"


How come nobody let me in on this non secret?   How in the world can this be trap game, the team is playing for their playoff lives?  If they are not up and locked in for this "playoff" game, when will they ever be locked in?  

Now that the Jets have come back to being something that is worth spending a few hours a week watching, I have also been checking out the various different YouTube shows and what Jake Asian came to realize and spoke about it is the fact that a lot of the national sports reporters haven't gotten the message that the Jets ARE a more interesting item this year, so they haven't been even WATCHING the games. The whole Steve Young apology for FINALLY taken the time to sit dawn and watch Zach's play. Maybe these things wouldn't be such a secret.

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8 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

this season's TD drive rate of 18.4% isn't much higher than Zach Wilson's 17.0%. The NFL's leaders, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, are all at 30%-plus.

not an excuse, because ZW sucks. But this is a major indictment on MLF. 

MLF is a problem 

I’m not ready for the jets to launch lafleur mainly because his plays do get receivers open. But at the same time we’ve seen two receivers, Mims and Moore, get in his dog house and maybe he also has a thing against zwilson. I’m not saying zwilson is a great player but it doesn’t seem like lafleur is adapting his plays to the players.  And this is funny because the shanahan system is supposed to give the QBs easy reads and oline blocking. It’s funnier too because shanahan jr has the niners on top and playing well with their third string QB.  So maybe the system does work and maybe lafleur doesn’t know how to teach or run it.  I hope the jets objectively examine the way the offense plays as well as how best to use the players they have.

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1 hour ago, southparkcpa said:

Games where we couldnt even score a TD????      

The tepid defense of Zach is mind blowing.  

Yes, they could have won.  It’s not a defense of ZW, he should have won easily.  Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have won if the two personal foul calls were kept from hitting the turf.  

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13 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

Had you stopped right her it would have been a good post...the rest is pure speculation. 

Of course it is. I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. It could be Mims and Moore are both schmucks. Same with zwilson but it just seems odd that players were essentially put in a dog house.  This is shades of Pete Kendall when mangini made I’m stay with the rookies.

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