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ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I do think it's kinda weird that Mike White only gets to fall on his face once before we all have to move on from him lol. Like, QB's do have bad games. He was awful today, but I've still been impressed with him overall when he's started. With that said, Jets definitely can't go into next season with him as the QB. He doesn't have the luxury of being a top pick and will never get the same amount of rope. I think the ideal QB room next year would be something like Jimmy G/Mike White/2nd round pick (Hendon Hooker maybe?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, pointman said: White is trash. There is no reason to retain him. He is what he is and won't get better. Flacco retired years ago. Zach is under his rookie deal that is fully guaranteed. No reason to dump him unless someone gives up a 1 for him and no one will. Strevelator deserves a chance on the depth chart, but I am sure someone will steal him. We need 2 real QBs to be brought in. Strev was on the PS the entire year. Any team could've taken him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Vet (Carr, Brady, Rogers, Jimmy G)ZachRookieSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: I do think it's kinda weird that Mike White only gets to fall on his face once before we all have to move on from him lol. Like, QB's do have bad games. He was awful today, but I've still been impressed with him overall when he's started. With that said, Jets definitely can't go into next season with him as the QB. He doesn't have the luxury of being a top pick and will never get the same amount of rope. I think the ideal QB room next year would be something like Jimmy G/Mike White/2nd round pick (Hendon Hooker maybe?) He’s just not that good. His ceiling is Ryan Fitzpatrick. His picks today both were very bad decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Strev was on the PS the entire year. Any team could've taken him. Now and when the new season kicks off is different imo. People going with what they got and know. Once new leadership, player transactions, retirements, trades happen... The Strev will look mighty fine. Especially after he lights it up next week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, VJphillyfan said: He’s just not that good. His ceiling is Ryan Fitzpatrick. His picks today both were very bad decisions White will never be as good as Fitzpatrick. Fitzy had some really really solid years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Jacoby Brissett, Jarrett Stidham, Anthony Richardson. Steady veteran, veteran who might have a tick of upside, developmental guy. First two compete for the job. If one of them gets hurt, bring in Josh Johnson. Richardson never sees the field. Start building an offense that’ll function around Richardson’s skill set before he hits the field. Honestly there’s a lot of options for next season but I’d like to see Brissett in the room. He’s played for like $5M a year recently and he’s a competent NFL quarterback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Sign Jimmy G. Bring back White as the backup. Keep Zach as the number 3, sign a project QB who has some experience like Josh Dobbs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Since most of you guys apparently love sh*t QBs, why not Stidham? He just threw for 400 yards vs the best defense in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said: I do think it's kinda weird that Mike White only gets to fall on his face once before we all have to move on from him lol. Like, QB's do have bad games. He was awful today, but I've still been impressed with him overall when he's started… I think the ideal QB room next year would be something like Jimmy G/Mike White/2nd round pick (Hendon Hooker maybe?) Once? How many of his starts has he won? He may be here next year if he takes a cheap contract. And Zach is on a fully guaranteed rookie contract. Zach isn’t going anywhere. And I have never been a Zach fan. Next year it’s Jimmy G/Carr, Zach, and MAYBE White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: I'd be perfectly happy with a total clean sweep. If any one is going to be retained it will be Wilson. At least he is like 23 and the gm who picked him will be hesitant to totally toss him. White, flacco and strev can all go. No matter who they keep of the guys here now none of them had better be the starter, the jets have to go and get someone viable. I'd add to that that ANYONE on the offense side of the ball who has anything to do with the QB room (including MLF) gets their pink slips. You gotta purge the taint and show all the rest that sh!t flows down hill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, VJphillyfan said: He’s just not that good. His ceiling is Ryan Fitzpatrick. His picks today both were very bad decisions He's probably just a league average QB but I don't know why the Jets would throw away a 27 year old guy who is competent at the position considering our track record with Quarterbacks. He was really bad today but he's had good games as well. I just wouldn't get rid of him is all. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, viffer said: Once? How many of his starts has he won? He may be here next year if he takes a cheap contract. And Zach is on a fully guaranteed rookie contract. Zach isn’t going anywhere. And I have never been a Zach fan. Next year it’s Jimmy G/Carr, Zach, and MAYBE White. I don't judge a QB solely on wins and losses. By that measure Zach should still be playing then and we know how bad he was. White probably has a low ceiling but he's competent at the position. He was really bad today though. I think he needs to be on the team next year backing up whoever they decide to go out and get to be the starter. I think they will try and trade Zach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: I think after today, injury or not, the Mike White being a starter fantasy is dead. I wouldn't mind him back as a back up on a cheap contract, but I think that's where it stops. Wilson looks like a complete bust, unclear if he will be brought back or dumped. I wouldn't cry over him being QB3 if MLF is fired and they think someone else can develop him. Wouldn't care if he gets dumped either. Flacco is finished, Strev is a waste of a roster spot. I think a vet will be brought in. Douglas and Saleh will be feeling the heat to win. The honeymoon is over. Realistically I think the position could look something like Carr/Jimmy G QB1 Mike White QB2 Zach Wilson QB3 Late round Developmental Pick QB4 What is everyone else's thoughts? No. An expensive vet is not the way to go for this team as we will need to install a completely new system and the offense has a zillion holes. Retain Zach, draft a QB try to get a mid-range guy for a year to hold the fort. Inquire about Jordan Love since Rodgers is not going anywhere. No To Carr. the always injured Jimmy G, Lamar (gag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I agree with your selections but we are not keeping ZW to be QB3 we will try to move him whilst he has some value Sent from my M2102J20SG using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said: Blow it up. The whole room. Exactly how I feel right now. I think Zach might be back as #2 or #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Warfish said: This team cannot trot out a Wilson/MW/JAG trio again. Ffs come on. I dont consider someone like Carr a jag. He would be the best qb in jets history with his stats. And I expect a mid/late round qb unless JD decides to trade the farm for one of the top guys in the draft but that doesnt seem likely. You think they're going to completely change all the QBs on the roster in 1 season? Doesnt seem too likely but you never know. Its very possible only 1 of white or wilson come back next season though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tezza said: I agree with your selections but we are not keeping ZW to be QB3 we will try to move him whilst he has some value Sent from my M2102J20SG using Tapatalk I could see this. I think if you get a good offer for Wilson you take it and don't look back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: He's probably just a league average QB but I don't know why the Jets would throw away a 27 year old guy who is competent at the position considering our track records with Quarterbacks. He was really bad today but he's had good games as well. I just wouldn't get rid of him is all. Sign Brady and resign White to be the backup 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tezza said: I agree with your selections but we are not keeping ZW to be QB3 we will try to move him whilst he has some value Sent from my M2102J20SG using Tapatalk Value?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: He's probably just a league average QB but I don't know why the Jets would throw away a 27 year old guy who is competent at the position considering our track records with Quarterbacks. He was really bad today but he's had good games as well. I just wouldn't get rid of him is all. Last year White had more picks than TDs and got injured. This year White has more picks than TDs and got injured. Maybe…. He just sucks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Zach Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Last year White had more picks than TDs and got injured. This year White has more picks than TDs and got injured. Maybe…. He just sucks? Why does he suck? He's had 2 awful games and 5 that were decent to very good. Nobody is trying to tell you that he is John Elway or Peyton Manning. But he's competent at the position. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Value?!?Yes! We can get a 5th rd pick I reckon for him this off-season...if we went another year as him being QB3 with little game time we won't get any compensation at all. Rather trade and make cap room for a QB like Carr, Jimmy G or we make a big swoop for Lamar if his negotiations w Baltimore break down. Sent from my M2102J20SG using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: He's probably just a league average QB but I don't know why the Jets would throw away a 27 year old guy who is competent at the position considering our track records with Quarterbacks. He was really bad today but he's had good games as well. I just wouldn't get rid of him is all. 0-3 1 TD 5 picks in 3 must win games just had a 47 rating against a GARBAGE DEFENSE We’re still doing this? LMFAO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, ScarletKnight89 said: Why does he suck? He's had 2 awful games and 5 that were decent to very good. Nobody is trying to tell you that he is John Elway or Peyton Manning. But he's competent at the position. Jesus seek help 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Jimmy G Zach Rookie (Anthony Richardson?) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, FactsOnly said: Jesus seek help I forgot to block you. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: I think after today, injury or not, the Mike White being a starter fantasy is dead. I wouldn't mind him back as a back up on a cheap contract, but I think that's where it stops. Wilson looks like a complete bust, unclear if he will be brought back or dumped. I wouldn't cry over him being QB3 if MLF is fired and they think someone else can develop him. Wouldn't care if he gets dumped either. Flacco is finished, Strev is a waste of a roster spot. I think a vet will be brought in. Douglas and Saleh will be feeling the heat to win. The honeymoon is over. Realistically I think the position could look something like Carr/Jimmy G QB1 Mike White QB2 Zach Wilson QB3 Late round Developmental Pick QB4 What is everyone else's thoughts? I think you are spot on but they will let White walk and take a mid round QB to be QB3. Lefleur Stays - Jimmy G - Zach - Mid Round QB Lefleur Fired (Frank Reich?) - Carr - Zach - Mid Round QB If we don't land one of Carr or Jimmy, I'm not sure what the plan will be. I don't want Brady/Rodgers but can see how that would buy Zach another year. Jordan Love would seem like an interesting scenario given the Lefleur connection and the compensation likely being conditional based on performace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: I dont consider someone like Carr a jag. Carr would be a huge mistake. Like trading for a post-Buffalo Fitzpatrick. Or the Jets trading for Neil O'Donnell. lol. 9 year Vet, only 2 winning seasons, clearly on the downside of his career? 38 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He would be the best qb in jets history with his stats. His stats in his best year, perhaps. Not now. 38 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: And I expect a mid/late round qb unless JD decides to trade the farm for one of the top guys in the draft but that doesnt seem likely. I expect Zach Wilson to be back as the #1 week 1 with no real competition. But I'm a dedicated cynic. 38 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: You think they're going to completely change all the QBs on the roster in 1 season? Doesnt seem too likely but you never know. I think they should. I don't think they will. 38 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Its very possible only 1 of white or wilson come back next season though. I'd bet Wilson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Let me drop some knowledge on all of you. Until we get real coaches in here, the QB room will continue to be a flat out disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 If we want Carr it has to happen very quickly according to nfl.com if the raiders are moving him it has to be very soon. "Decisions on Carr will have to come quickly. Based on the terms of his three-year, $121.5 million extension he signed before the season, his $32.9 million base salary for 2023 and an additional $7.5 million of his 2024 base becomes fully guaranteed if he's on the roster on the third day of the waiver period -- or three days after the Super Bowl." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Can’t keep Mike White around. Means you have to give him a contract and he hasn’t done anything to deserve one. Get a vet QB. Keep ZW as #2 and Strev as #3 active with a running package that you will actually use. Possibly draft a QB in the 4th or 5th round. But only if you trash MW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Larz said: total renovation, down to the studs Does she have a name? Asking for a, uh, friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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