BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Why don't you include the Bears game? He basically had a bad first half against the Vikings leading into this game. He had one good game all season against a trash defense. He was bad against antother terrible D against the Vikings he was meh against the bills who have s good D and really bad today against a mediocre D. One good game does not mean he’s been playing well. Being better than the trash can zach does not mean he’s been playing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Even if that is so(hint: it’s not), Carr would easily be the best QB the Jets have had since Favre was here. Carr is the definition of QB hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It’s an absolute no brainer. Derek Carr should be a Jet in 6 weeks unless the plan is to go after Lamar Jackson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Totally needed this thread own it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: Carr is the definition of QB hell. If a consistent 10-15 qb is qb hell idk what these past 15 years have been 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: Carr is the definition of QB hell. Really? And the last 15 years since Chad fell apart no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, BurntDice said: He had one good game all season against a trash defense. He was bad against antother terrible D against the Vikings he was meh against the bills who have s good D and really bad today against a mediocre D. One good game does not mean he’s been playing well. Being better than the trash can zach does not mean he’s been playing well White is still better than your hero Zachopono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, BurntDice said: He had one good game all season against a trash defense. He was bad against antother terrible D against the Vikings he was meh against the bills who have s good D and really bad today against a mediocre D. One good game does not mean he’s been playing well. Being better than the trash can zach does not mean he’s been playing well He was not bad against the Vikings or Bills. He was solid in both of those games. He was bad in the 1st half against the Vikings and got it going in the 2nd half. He was great against the Bears. Who cares if the Bears stink? He still played great in that game. He was awful today. He struggles to put the team in the end zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, VJphillyfan said: White is still better than your hero Zachopono Did you not just see that I said Zach is bad? Keep up with the typical MW fan club take! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, BurntDice said: Did you not just see that I said Zach is bad? Keep up with the typical MW fan club take! Not sure why you’re gloating. All I ever said was he was way better than Zach which would make him average. I have been saying sign Brady or Carr the entire time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said: He was not bad against the Vikings or Bills. He was solid in both of those games. He was bad in the 1st half against the Vikings and got it going in the 2nd half. He was great against the Bears. Who cares if the Bears stink? He still played great in that game. He was awful today. He struggles to put the team in the end zone. 55 comp % with 0 passing tds against the Vikings who have the #32 pass D in the league is solid to you? Not very high standards my dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: Carr has $40 mil in injury guarantee next year. The team did not want him around and get hurt, even in practice. Sure but he can be at practice in meetings at games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, VJphillyfan said: Not sure why you’re gloating. All I ever said was he was way better than Zach which would make him average. I have been saying sign Brady or Carr the entire time Being better than the worst starter in the league does not make him average… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: Sure but he can be at practice in meetings at games. They know he is gone. Lucky us I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, BurntDice said: 55 comp % with 0 passing tds against the Vikings who have the #32 pass D in the league is solid to you? Not very high standards my dude 55% is not a good number but he made a number of big throws in that game for a ton of yards, especially in the 2nd half. The 2nd pick was a desperation throw into the end zone. If he was completing 55% of his passes every week that would be a problem but against the Bears and Bills he completed 79% and 61% of his passes respectively. Today he was bad. The other games he was not, in my opinion. I guess it's subjective though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 White was never great he is a backup just the fans are so desperate they just wanted to believe in somthing can't fault anyone for that. The bright side now we can hope this franchise goes out and gets a solution at QB stop the insanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: 55% is not a good number but he made a number of big throws in that game for a ton of yards, especially in the 2nd half. The 2nd pick was a desperation throw into the end zone. If he was completing 55% of his passes every week that would be a problem but against the Bears and Bills he completed 79% and 61% of his passes respectively. Today he was bad. The other games he was not, in my opinion. I guess it's subjective though. For me personally I think yards are a very overblown stat. TDs and comp % are much more important. He threw it for 57 times that game. Flacco had 900 yards in 3 games this year and everyone trashed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 35 minutes ago, Barton said: White with a bad game, no question. Likely due to the broken ribs, though. He's never made throws like this before, so do the math. Mike White’s last 3 games, the Jets offense has exactly 2 TDs. White has been injured in 2 out of his 7 starts. Lastly, he absolutely does have a history of throwing reckless interceptions. White is OK, a quality back-up. Case Keenum is having a respectable career that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Draft a QB every year until you get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, BurntDice said: He had one good game all season against a trash defense. He was bad against antother terrible D against the Vikings he was meh against the bills who have s good D and really bad today against a mediocre D. One good game does not mean he’s been playing well. Being better than the trash can zach does not mean he’s been playing well Two years in a row, a huge first game, then injuries and increasingly ineffective play. Almost like once the league gets a couple of games of footage of him each season, the going gets very tough. Let him go elsewhere. Try to bring in a starting quality vet and, if they can deal Wilson, draft a young guy to develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Grandy said: Draft a QB every year until you get it right. Sign a vet and draft Levis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheClashFan said: Two years in a row, a huge first game, then injuries and increasingly ineffective play. Almost like once the league gets a couple of games of footage of him each season, the going gets very tough. Let him go elsewhere. Try to bring in a starting quality vet and, if they can deal Wilson, draft a young guy to develop. Exactly. I hope the best for him, but I’m a Jets fan and want to win. He hasn’t proven to be anything beyond a decent backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Mike White’s last 3 games, the Jets offense has exactly 2 TDs. White has been injured in 2 out of his 7 starts. Lastly, he absolutely does have a history of throwing reckless interceptions. White is OK, a quality back-up. Case Keenum is having a respectable career that way. Small sample size + coaching incompetence, as well though. We dont know what Mike White is yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Grandy said: Draft a QB every year until you get it right. Wont matter when the organization has no idea how to develop QBs. Guys like Darnold, Wilson, Sanchez etc - never should have played as rookies or maybe even their 2nd year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Barton said: Small sample size + coaching incompetence, as well though. We dont know what Mike White is yet. It is quite obvious that he isn’t good enough as a passer to succeed when he presents zero threat to run… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, RoadFan said: It is quite obvious that he isn’t good enough as a passer to succeed when he presents zero threat to run… So what about those games when he did really well throwing the ball? He's had 2 clunkers his starting career. Last year vs Bills and now vs the Seahawks with broken ribs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I prefer Carr but I admire what Mike White did today. Not because of his awful play on the field, but because he put a lot of money on the line playing hurt. He did it for the team. No other QB option gave us a chance. Obviously it turned out injured Mike White didn't give us a chance either but I appreciate that he was willing to try in that position. We needed healthy MW. Now go get Carr and maybe we can get White on the cheap as his backup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Carr is Neil O'Donnell. Just stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Plenty don’t want Carr for their reasons but I challenge you to find anyone on the board who advocated going into 2023 with MW as starter without one helluva Plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 So what about those games when he did really well throwing the ball? He's had 2 clunkers his starting career. Last year vs Bills and now vs the Seahawks with broken ribs. His ribs were cleared for contact .. where you been brah ?Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Dunnie said: His ribs were cleared for contact .. where you been brah ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Doesnt mean it doesnt affect the ability to throw, though. Did he look loose and natural throwing the ball? IMO, he did not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I prefer Carr but I admire what Mike White did today. Not because of his awful play on the field, but because he put a lot of money on the line playing hurt. He did it for the team. No other QB option gave us a chance. Obviously it turned out injured Mike White didn't give us a chance either but I appreciate that he was willing to try in that position. We needed healthy MW. Now go get Carr and maybe we can get White on the cheap as his backup. I understand the money on the line, he is playing for a contract. Not buying the ribs excuse as a major factor today, tho. I didn’t see White wince, not even when he got hit. Even if the ribs were somewhat of a problem, which I can concede, his decision making wasn’t good either. Carr has to be the #1 choice, agreed on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, Barton said: Small sample size + coaching incompetence, as well though. We dont know what Mike White is yet. Yes we do. He is a career backup and nothing more. White lovers are kidding themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, viffer said: Yes we do. He is a career backup and nothing more. White lovers are kidding themselves. How do you know he's a career backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 MW is not the future, at all, at all. Neither is Carr. Please, for the love, do not go after G Min either. I know I'm not proposing a solution. I'm just complaining. But we are the Jets, and we are right back to doing Jetsy things. Order of the universe has been restored. Maybe keep White around for the practice squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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