JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, hawk said: Especially as a theoretical playoff game, but real enough for the team. It was the exact same display last week, just some of you could only focus on Zach. Kind of happy for Zach today. All the clowns acting as if this team's failure was on him while the team was 2-5 without him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, Vader said: Saleh gave up. He said it last week. "It's not about the playoffs." Actually, that is exactly what it was always about. Yea, this is a good point. Awful message for him to send. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Yea, this is a good point. Awful message for him to send. He’s lost the pulse of the locker room. And possibly lost the locker room itself. The Jets are who we thought they were. They stole one in Cleveland. It’s a sloppy team that looked uninspired with everything on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: It was the exact same display last week, just some of you could only focus on Zach. Kind of happy for Zach today. All the clowns acting as if this team's failure was on him while the team was 2-5 without him. Zach still blows skippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 21 minutes ago, VJphillyfan said: Zach still blows skippy Yeah, just took some of you geniuses a little longer to realize the rest of the team wasn't so good. "If only Mike White was our QB all year we'd be going to the playoffs" Mike white 1-3 when given the chance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Yeah, just took some of you geniuses a little longer to realize the rest of the team wasn't so good. "If only Mike White was our QB all year we'd be going to the playoffs" Mike white 1-3 when given the chance.... So your defense mechanism for being completely wrong about Zach is to root against Mike White? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, VJphillyfan said: So your defense mechanism for being completely wrong about Zach is to root against Mike White? I didn't root against him, I just know enough about football to realize a journeyman 27 year old QB that was waived 5 times wasn't going to the answer like some of you clowns were delusional enough to believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 After time to think, I want to say a couple things might all be true. Teams have figured out how to exploit our def. It happens. Not much of any adjustments, but at the same time we lose gamew the def had done more than enough to win..so .... Mike white who I personally believed to be the answer for now , really played bad. Maybe ribs. Seems most likely. But he also could have just had a bad game but this was not good at all. Missing ope. Guys, not seeing defenders, throwing picks and almost picks. I mean this offense looks terrible. There were dumb play calls sure but there were plenty of first downs dropped and first downs missed . Lafluer who I have defended seems exposed. Drops and misses have made me not see his poor play calling. This is a factor most likely a big one. Bam is same player every game just like g Wilson . E Moore etc and we just do not get enough out of them. How long was it till g Wilson even got a target. The te's are trash. I know I juries right? But really we should be able to make some plays score one damn touch down. We literally had zero chance with these play calls. Today was a real eye opener. Mike white who has played great at times, was not coached up to win and the team was not prepared . I do not know the answer but it sure seems like the coaching staff is letting us down. Players too don't get me wrong but God damn geno Smith and Sam darnold are throwing touch downs. We are throwing to guys in triple coverge. I think the jets have wasted this year's shot at something special. We had something we really did. You can't convince me that Mike white doesn't beat NE in both games but now even I quest that to a degree. Just a real disappointment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: There's a cornhole tournament on ESPN2 right now. More entertaining than the Jets, if only for the novelty/shock that there's such a thing as a cornhole tournament. The Jets got cornholed so good segway 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Ironically, it is a Pete Carrol level collapse. Yep.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 IDK, it worked out how I expected. No way was this team going to go into Seattle and win. Then you have the whole Pete Carroll/Geno Smith story line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, rillo said: IDK, it worked out how I expected. No way was this team going to go into Seattle and win. Then you have the whole Pete Carroll/Geno Smith story line. Losing is one thing. Showing zero fight and folding was quite another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Losing is one thing. Showing zero fight and folding was quite another. These guys were ready for the off-season. They knew they didn't have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, rillo said: These guys were ready for the off-season. They knew they didn't have a chance. And that’s a systemic problem. Mailing it in when you’re 3-12…sure, I get it. Mailing it in when you’re playing meaningful football in January…that doesn’t compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 https://www.facebook.com/Jets/videos/572212308060843 THis video is an embarrassment. Saleh is a fraud. Cheer leader. I have seen HS coaches more disiplined. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: https://www.facebook.com/Jets/videos/572212308060843 THis video is an embarrassment. Saleh is a fraud. Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Mailing it in when you’re playing meaningful football in January…that doesn’t compute. When you trot out an offense as inept as the Jets have for the past 3-4 weeks I could see it. Zero confidence on that side of the ball, and it showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, rillo said: When you trot out an offense as inept as the Jets have for the past 3-4 weeks I could see it. Zero confidence on that side of the ball, and it showed. That doesn’t explain why the D let Seattle march down the field on the opening drive. Whether you believe in your offense or not that can’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Wtf Did it not open for you?? Saleh cheerleading with his team like it's Charlotte Catholic football. No, the coach at Charlotte Catholic is prolific and professional and prepared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, southparkcpa said: Did it not open for you?? Saleh cheerleading with his team like it's Charlotte Catholic football. No, the coach at Charlotte Catholic is prolific and professional and prepared. Yeah I can see it. “Wtf” was my response lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Wtf Turns out snappy slogans and fist bumps don't win football games. Back to the drawing board. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 10 hours ago, Pac said: It was worse in 1986 when we stated 10-1 and Paul Mcguire, notorious jet hater, correctly called that we'd lose our last 5 games. We backed in to playoffs and managed to win a game but the the Browns made me cry as a kid the following week. Comparing turds here but that team made the playoffs and didnt collapse after benching the second overall pick. This is one for the ages. Nobody has ever done this before in the league. Pure clown show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, thebuzzardman said: The Jets got cornholed so good segway I could swear I heard one of the guys calling it say that [some guy] is one of the top cornhole coaches around today. Yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 hours ago, hawk said: Especially as a theoretical playoff game, but real enough for the team. 1993, 1994, 2000, 2008 and 2011 say hello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 9 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: It was the exact same display last week, just some of you could only focus on Zach. Kind of happy for Zach today. All the clowns acting as if this team's failure was on him while the team was 2-5 without him. White was bad, and there is no defending it. He was bad. If you think he was worse than any game Wilson played this year, hit me up. I have a bridge to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, hawk said: White was bad, and there is no defending it. He was bad. If you think he was worse than any game Wilson played this year, hit me up. I have a bridge to sell. I've repeatedly said Wilson deserved to be benched and that Mike white was the better..... that never made mike white a good player. Being better than a struggling second year rookie is not a great accomplishment. And as it turns out he really never gave this team a better chance to win. 1-3 is 1-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 39 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I've repeatedly said Wilson deserved to be benched and that Mike white was the better..... that never made mike white a good player. Being better than a struggling second year rookie is not a great accomplishment. And as it turns out he really never gave this team a better chance to win. 1-3 is 1-3. Game for Game, who knows the outcomes. However, the Pats Games ended up being the real difference. IMO, White gives us the better chance in those two. That said, we need a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 hours ago, VJphillyfan said: So your defense mechanism for being completely wrong about Zach is to root against Mike White? I'm a Jets fan. I root for the laundry. I boo whoever wears the QB Jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I wish I could say this was the most disappointing display I have ever seen. But having watched this team for 40 years now, I can't say that it is. I've seen this exact movie several times over. Same Old Jets is a thing for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, y2k8 said: I wish I could say this was the most disappointing display I have ever seen. But having watched this team for 40 years now, I can't say that it is. I've seen this exact movie several times over. Same Old Jets is a thing for a reason. It's not just the game itself, it's the cherry on top of a 5 game losing streak/ epic meltdown. I'm not Nostradamus but I think this time next week we will all be talking about the 6 game losing streak to end a season that started off pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Meaningful losses in December 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, shawn306 said: 1993, 1994, 2000, 2008 and 2011 say hello 1997 (lost 3 of 4 to finish 9-7 after being 8-4, including the classic loss in Detroit) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 minutes ago, Coquito said: It's not just the game itself, it's the cherry on top of a 5 game losing streak/ epic meltdown. I'm not Nostradamus but I think this time next week we will all be talking about the 6 game losing streak to end a season that started off pretty good. While not exact: 2008 (8-3 to 9-7) - Favre year), 2000 (from 6-1 to 9-7), 1997 (8-4 to 9-7), 1994 (6-5 to 6-10 - spike game), 1993 (7-4 to 8-8), 1984 (6-2 to 7-9). 1986 gets spared bc the Jets somehow made the playoffs starting 10-1 and finishing 10-6. All are variations on the same thing. Jets collapse after Thanksgiving. This is nothing new to the old timers. It just hasn't happened in a while because the team has never been good enough to have a "collapse". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lith Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, y2k8 said: While not exact: 2008 (8-3 to 9-7) - Favre year), 2000 (from 6-1 to 9-7), 1997 (8-4 to 9-7), 1994 (6-5 to 6-10 - spike game), 1993 (7-4 to 8-8), 1984 (6-2 to 7-9). 1986 gets spared bc the Jets somehow made the playoffs starting 10-1 and finishing 10-6. All are variations on the same thing. Jets collapse after Thanksgiving. This is nothing new to the old timers. It just hasn't happened in a while because the team has never been good enough to have a "collapse". Agreed. Was thinking about this yesterday. How many seasons have we had where we were having a decent year and then lost all or almost all of our games to close out the season. Usually we win one or two meaningless December games to ruin draft position, now when we could use one or two wins to secure a playoff spot, it doesn't happen. As a 50+ year Jet fan, I shouldn't be surprised, but I sure did not see this team unravelling like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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