GRADE JOE DOUGLAS

[playtowinthegame]

Grade Joe Douglas' Drafts
 

Year    Rnd    Player    Pick    Pos

GRADE: A

2022    1    Sauce Gardner    4    CB ---- GREAT
2022    1    Garrett Wilson    10    WR ---- GREAT
2022    1    Jermaine Johnson II    26    LB ---- Can't grade.
2022    2    Breece Hall    36    RB ----- GREAT/HURT
2022    3    Jeremy Ruckert    101    TE ---- Can't grade
2022    4    Max Mitchell    111    T ----- MEH
2022    4    Micheal Clemons    117    DT ---- GREAT cause I don't want to get beat up.
 

GRADE: F (OPPORTUNITY COST)

2021    1    Zach Wilson    2    QB ---- MEGA BUST
2021    1    Alijah Vera-Tucker    14    OL ---- GOOD PICK/HURT
2021    2    Elijah Moore    34    WR ---- MEH (Demands a trade)
2021    4    Michael Carter    107    RB ---- MEH
2021    5    Jamien Sherwood    146    DB ----- WHIFF
2021    5    Michael Carter    154    S ---- BASE HIT
2021    5    Jason Pinnock    175    CB --- MEH
2021    6    Hamsah Nasirildeen    186    DB ---- WHIFF
2021    6    Brandin Echols    200    CB ---- MEH
2021    6    Jonathan Marshall    207    DL ----- WHIFF

GRADE: F

2020    1    Mekhi Becton    11    T ---- MEGA BUST
2020    2    Denzel Mims    59    WR ---- BUST
2020    3    Ashtyn Davis    68    S ---- WHIFF (Leonard Williams pick)
2020    3    Jabari Zuniga    79    DE ---- WHIFF
2020    4    La'Mical Perine    120    RB ---- WHIFF
2020    4    James Morgan    125    QB ---- WHIFF
2020    4    Cameron Clark    129    T ---- WHIFF
2020    5    Bryce Hall    158    CB ---- MEH
2020    6    Braden Mann    191    P ---- MEH

 

 

Now let's do JD's free agent acquisitions/trades.

2022 Midseason Trade: F
James Robinson (6th round draft pick)

2022 Free Agency Class

GRADE: B

QB Joe Flacco: Re-signed on a one-year deal. (Team)
QB Mike White: Signed his original-round tender, a one-year contract worth $2.54 million. (Team)
RB Tevin Coleman: Re-signed on a one-year, $1.5 million deal ($650,000 guaranteed) that has a max value of $2.3 million. (Tom Pelissero)
WR Braxton Berrios: Re-signed on a two-year, $12 million contract. (Mike Giardi)
TE Tyler Conklin: Signed a free-agent deal. (Mike Garafolo)
TE C.J. Uzomah: Signed a three-year deal worth $24 million. (Ian Rapoport)
OT Duane Brown: Signing a two-year, $22 million contract. (Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport)
OT Conor McDermott: Re-signed to a one-year contract. (Ian Rapoport)
OG Dan Feeney: Re-signed to a free-agent deal. (Team)
OG Laken Tomlinson: Signed a three-year, $40 million deal that includes $27 million guaranteed and has a max value of $41.2 million. (Mike Garafolo)
OL Dan Feeney: Re-signed to a free-agent deal. (Team)
DT Nathan Shepherd: Re-signed on a free-agent contract. (Tom Pelissero)
DL Solomon Thomas: Signed a one-year, $2.25 million deal that includes $1.91 million guaranteed and has a max value of $3.75 million. (Mike Garafolo)
LB Kwon Alexander: Signing a one-year deal. (Ian Rapoport)
LB Jacob Martin: Signed a three-year, $13.5 million contract that includes $6 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
CB D.J. Reed: Signed a three-year, $33 million contract. (Tom Pelissero)
S Jordan Whitehead: Signed a two-year contract worth $14.5 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DB Lamarcus Joyner: Re-signed on a one-year contract. (Agent)
K Greg Zuerlein: Signed a free-agent contract. (Team)

2021 Free Agency Class

GRADE: C - 

RB Josh Adams: Re-signed a contract. (Team)
RB Tevin Coleman: Signed a one-year, $1.1 million deal with $400,000 guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)
WR Keelan Cole: Signed a one-year deal worth $5.5 million. (Ian Rapoport)
WR Corey Davis: Signed a three-year, $37.5 million contract. (Ian Rapoport)
TE Tyler Kroft: Signed a one-year, $2 million deal with $1.5 million guaranteed. It has a max value of $3 million with incentives. (Tom Pelissero)
C Dan Feeney: Signed a free-agent deal with the Jets. (Team)
OT Morgan Moses: Agreed to one-year deal with the Jets worth up to $5.3 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DE Vinny Curry: Signed a free-agent deal. (Team)
DE Carl Lawson: Signed a three-year, $45 million deal that includes $30 million guaranteed and has a max value of $47.4 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DT Sheldon Rankins: Signed a two-year deal worth up to $17 million. (Mike Garafolo)
LB Jarrad Davis: Signed a one-year, $7 million deal. (Ian Rapoport)
S Marcus Maye: Received the franchise tag and has signed his one-year tender. (Team)
DB Justin Hardee: Signed a contract with the Jets. (Team)
DB Lamarcus Joyner: Signed a one-year, $4.5 million deal. (Ian Rapoport)

2020 Free Agency Class

GRADE: F

Josh Andrews, C/G: Signing with the Jets, per his agency. (UPDATE: The Jets released Andrews to reach the 53-man roster mark.)
Pierre Desir, CB: Agreed to terms on a one-year deal worth up to $5.5 million, per Rapoport.
George Fant, T: Agreed to terms on a three-year deal worth 27.3 million with a max value of $30 million, per Rapoport.
Joe Flacco, QB: Agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the Jets, per Garafolo. It's a $1.5 million deal that includes another $3 million in incentives.
Frank Gore, RB: Signing a one-year, $1.05 million deal ($200,000 guaranteed) with the Jets, per Pelissero.
Jordan Jenkins, Edge: Agreed to a one-year deal worth $5 million deal, per Rapoport.
Alex Lewis, G: Agreed to terms on a new deal (terms not disclosed), the team announced.
Bradley McDougald, S: Acquired via trade with the Seahawks, along with a first- and third-round pick in 2021 and a first-rounder in 2022, in exchange for safety Jamal Adams and a fourth-round pick in 2022.
Connor McGovern, signing with the Jets on a three-year, $27 million deal that includes $18 million fully guaranteed, per Pelissero.
Donte Moncrief, WR: Signed with the Jets, the team announced. (UPDATE: The Jets released Moncrief to reach the 53-man roster mark.)
Patrick Onwuasor, LB: Agreed to terms to join the Jets (terms not yet disclosed), Rapoport reported.
Breshad Perriman, WR: Signing a one-year deal worth up to $8 million that includes $6 million guaranteed, per his agent.
Brian Poole, CB: Re-signing with the Jets on a one-year deal worth $5 million guaranteed, per his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.
Greg Van Roten, OL: Signed a three-year deal with the Jets, per Rapoport.

2019 Mid-season Trade/ Acquisition made during or before season

GRADE: F

Claims Kaare Vedvik (Kicker)
Ryan Kalil (Center) comes out of brief retirement to sign 1 year deal.
Traded Leonard Williams (PRO BOWLER) to the Giants for what would become the great Ashtyn Davis. Thank you, Joe Douglas, Thank you. 

[playtowinthegame]

Without a doubt Joe Douglas had a better off-season in 2022, but when you look at all the moves he's made since joining the Jets it's not that impressive as a whole. It's why we still stink. 

[More Cowbell]

JD gets one more year. He better hit it out of the park. 

[playtowinthegame]

36 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

JD gets one more year. He better hit it out of the park. 

 

Yup, he'll get another year, because we're a "stable" franchise now. 

[LockeJET]

I just look at it this way.  When you royally screw up the quarterback position, your coaching staff and the offensive Line which was supposed to be your specialty, you should be on the hot seat. He gets a pass right now because of the last draft but Douglas should not be secure here at the moment. Personally, it’s going to be hard to trust him fixing these weaknesses but I’m guessing ownership gives him a chance.

[kevinc855]

He is C at best and I told him that in the rain......(not really but i did the whole Ryan leaf comment)

He's a JAG GM. I love me some Sauce but what idiot with the 4th pick doesn't take Sauce at 4. You dont get to pound your chest for top 10 pick because your team stinks every year. 

JD's record = ZERO PLAYOFF APPEARANCEs/Winning season

Fun fact - Mac had at least one winning season. JD still has zero. 

[GangGreened]

C sounds about right.

[More Cowbell]

5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

He is C at best and I told him that in the rain......(not really but i did the whole Ryan leaf comment)

He's a JAG GM. I love me some Sauce but what idiot with the 4th pick doesn't take Sauce at 4. You dont get to pound your chest for top 10 pick because your team stinks every year. 

JD's record = ZERO PLAYOFF APPEARANCEs/Winning season

Fun fact - Mac had at least one winning season. JD still has zero. 

You do know Stingley was taken before Sauce.

https://tinyurl.com/2w7byr3m

[kevinc855]

2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

You do know Stingley was taken before Sauce.

https://tinyurl.com/2w7byr3m

even more reason you take sauce at 4

[Ron Rico]

17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

JD gets one more year. He better hit it out of the park. 

He very well might set this team back for years in contract hell like the mess Parcells left behind. 

[ScarletKnight89]

C+

[JetsFanatic]

21 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

Without a doubt Joe Douglas had a better off-season in 2022, but when you look at all the moves he's made since joining the Jets it's not that impressive as a whole. It's why we still stink. 

2021 is not an F draft. More like C+. It appears he blew the QB, but got AVT, Moore and I still like both Michael Carters.

[playtowinthegame]

Joe Douglas be like.

[More Cowbell]

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

even more reason you take sauce at 4

Ok, but you said what HM doesn't  take Sauce at 4. Obviously  the Texans GM

[Guilhermezmc]

C- and C's don't get it done

[More Cowbell]

5 minutes ago, Coquito said:

He very well might set this team back for years in contract hell like the mess Parcells left behind. 

I honestly don't  have a problem mortgaging for the future now

 The window has opened

 

[playtowinthegame]

4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

2021 is not an F draft. More like C+. It appears he blew the QB, but got AVT, Moore and I still like both Michael Carters.

I give him an F  in 2021 because of the opportunity cost passing up a chance at the 49ers package of draft picks.

[68JET11]

3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

I give him an F  in 2021 because of the opportunity cost passing up a chance at the 49ers package of draft picks.

That to me was his biggest mistake so far. The package of draft picks he could have gotten was huge to building up this roster.

[Green Ghost]

13 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

2021 is not an F draft. More like C+. It appears he blew the QB, but got AVT, Moore and I still like both Michael Carters.

He blew the #2 pick in the draft on a mega bust QB, that alone makes it an F.
He traded up in the 1st round for a guard, Moore stinks,  and he took a few jags to fill places on  an expansion level roster he created. Yay.

Thank you Joe Douglas, thank you.

[Dcat]

C- is his grade.  The hits (Breece, AVT, Sauce) prevent it from being a flat out F from the two massive 1st round busts that are killing this team's chances.  He's been average, or below on free agency as well.  The 2022 draft is the ONLY thing he's got to avoid being fired.

This board has been too forgiving of his busts for the sake of the few good picks.   

[Ron Rico]

Brock Purdy, a 5th round draft pick this year, leads the 49ers to a division title.

Kenny Pickett, 20th pick overall this year, has the potential of getting the Steelers into the Playoffs:

Kenny Pickett comes up big in the clutch again, leads Steelers to late win over Ravens (yahoo.com)

And finally, the Tennessee Titans are starting a QB, Joshua Dobbs, who they acquired two weeks ago off of another teams practice squad- in the final game of the season for the potential division title. 

Meanwhile the Jets are starting QB's with broken ribs, or throw for 2 yards in a half. 

Then there's Joe Flacco, who hasn't done anything during our 5 game losing streak, who could have been replaced back in November. JD completely sh*t the bed with his myopic view of Number 2.

[Warfish]

Just a quick note: 

I generally agree with all the scores in the OP.

But you should also keep in mind that the talent we had when JD arrived was a near universal F.  

That includes the guys we traded, Adams, Darnold, Williams, etc. 

Adams was good, but was a pending holdout and wanted grotesque money he wasn't close to worth.

Darnold was (and is) a bust, albeit better than Wilson.

Williams was a JAG here for the most part.  

So while many of JD's moves were in the C category, those C's replaces F's mostly.  

It's not a defense, more an observation.  Over the three years I feel we've improved overall team talent and depth by quite a bit.

But it's been far from perfection, and many moves (especially the drafts) were poor or meh as noted.

[Warfish]

1 minute ago, Coquito said:

Brock Purdy, a 5th round draft pick this year, leads the 49ers to a division title.

7th round.  He's "Mr. Irrelevant" remember.

And it's more a great team is helping a young game manager QB win games, something we should have been thinking about much of this year here.  Too many fans want all or nothing, Peyton Manning or Tank.  They refuse to see how solid game managers (my example is always Kirk Cousins) can still thrive in this league.

[ASH1962]

56 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

Grade Joe Douglas' Drafts
 

Year    Rnd    Player    Pick    Pos

GRADE: A

2022    1    Sauce Gardner    4    CB ---- GREAT
2022    1    Garrett Wilson    10    WR ---- GREAT
2022    1    Jermaine Johnson II    26    LB ---- Can't grade.
2022    2    Breece Hall    36    RB ----- GREAT/HURT
2022    3    Jeremy Ruckert    101    TE ---- Can't grade
2022    4    Max Mitchell    111    T ----- MEH
2022    4    Micheal Clemons    117    DT ---- GREAT cause I don't want to get beat up.
 

GRADE: F (OPPORTUNITY COST)

2021    1    Zach Wilson    2    QB ---- MEGA BUST
2021    1    Alijah Vera-Tucker    14    OL ---- GOOD PICK/HURT
2021    2    Elijah Moore    34    WR ---- MEH (Demands a trade)
2021    4    Michael Carter    107    RB ---- MEH
2021    5    Jamien Sherwood    146    DB ----- WHIFF
2021    5    Michael Carter    154    S ---- BASE HIT
2021    5    Jason Pinnock    175    CB --- MEH
2021    6    Hamsah Nasirildeen    186    DB ---- WHIFF
2021    6    Brandin Echols    200    CB ---- MEH
2021    6    Jonathan Marshall    207    DL ----- WHIFF

GRADE: F

2020    1    Mekhi Becton    11    T ---- MEGA BUST
2020    2    Denzel Mims    59    WR ---- BUST
2020    3    Ashtyn Davis    68    S ---- WHIFF (Leonard Williams pick)
2020    3    Jabari Zuniga    79    DE ---- WHIFF
2020    4    La'Mical Perine    120    RB ---- WHIFF
2020    4    James Morgan    125    QB ---- WHIFF
2020    4    Cameron Clark    129    T ---- WHIFF
2020    5    Bryce Hall    158    CB ---- MEH
2020    6    Braden Mann    191    P ---- MEH

 

 

Now let's do JD's free agent acquisitions/trades.

2022 Midseason Trade: F
James Robinson (6th round draft pick)

2022 Free Agency Class

GRADE: B

QB Joe Flacco: Re-signed on a one-year deal. (Team)
QB Mike White: Signed his original-round tender, a one-year contract worth $2.54 million. (Team)
RB Tevin Coleman: Re-signed on a one-year, $1.5 million deal ($650,000 guaranteed) that has a max value of $2.3 million. (Tom Pelissero)
WR Braxton Berrios: Re-signed on a two-year, $12 million contract. (Mike Giardi)
TE Tyler Conklin: Signed a free-agent deal. (Mike Garafolo)
TE C.J. Uzomah: Signed a three-year deal worth $24 million. (Ian Rapoport)
OT Duane Brown: Signing a two-year, $22 million contract. (Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport)
OT Conor McDermott: Re-signed to a one-year contract. (Ian Rapoport)
OG Dan Feeney: Re-signed to a free-agent deal. (Team)
OG Laken Tomlinson: Signed a three-year, $40 million deal that includes $27 million guaranteed and has a max value of $41.2 million. (Mike Garafolo)
OL Dan Feeney: Re-signed to a free-agent deal. (Team)
DT Nathan Shepherd: Re-signed on a free-agent contract. (Tom Pelissero)
DL Solomon Thomas: Signed a one-year, $2.25 million deal that includes $1.91 million guaranteed and has a max value of $3.75 million. (Mike Garafolo)
LB Kwon Alexander: Signing a one-year deal. (Ian Rapoport)
LB Jacob Martin: Signed a three-year, $13.5 million contract that includes $6 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
CB D.J. Reed: Signed a three-year, $33 million contract. (Tom Pelissero)
S Jordan Whitehead: Signed a two-year contract worth $14.5 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DB Lamarcus Joyner: Re-signed on a one-year contract. (Agent)
K Greg Zuerlein: Signed a free-agent contract. (Team)

2021 Free Agency Class

GRADE: C - 

RB Josh Adams: Re-signed a contract. (Team)
RB Tevin Coleman: Signed a one-year, $1.1 million deal with $400,000 guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero)
WR Keelan Cole: Signed a one-year deal worth $5.5 million. (Ian Rapoport)
WR Corey Davis: Signed a three-year, $37.5 million contract. (Ian Rapoport)
TE Tyler Kroft: Signed a one-year, $2 million deal with $1.5 million guaranteed. It has a max value of $3 million with incentives. (Tom Pelissero)
C Dan Feeney: Signed a free-agent deal with the Jets. (Team)
OT Morgan Moses: Agreed to one-year deal with the Jets worth up to $5.3 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DE Vinny Curry: Signed a free-agent deal. (Team)
DE Carl Lawson: Signed a three-year, $45 million deal that includes $30 million guaranteed and has a max value of $47.4 million. (Ian Rapoport)
DT Sheldon Rankins: Signed a two-year deal worth up to $17 million. (Mike Garafolo)
LB Jarrad Davis: Signed a one-year, $7 million deal. (Ian Rapoport)
S Marcus Maye: Received the franchise tag and has signed his one-year tender. (Team)
DB Justin Hardee: Signed a contract with the Jets. (Team)
DB Lamarcus Joyner: Signed a one-year, $4.5 million deal. (Ian Rapoport)

2020 Free Agency Class

GRADE: F

Josh Andrews, C/G: Signing with the Jets, per his agency. (UPDATE: The Jets released Andrews to reach the 53-man roster mark.)
Pierre Desir, CB: Agreed to terms on a one-year deal worth up to $5.5 million, per Rapoport.
George Fant, T: Agreed to terms on a three-year deal worth 27.3 million with a max value of $30 million, per Rapoport.
Joe Flacco, QB: Agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the Jets, per Garafolo. It's a $1.5 million deal that includes another $3 million in incentives.
Frank Gore, RB: Signing a one-year, $1.05 million deal ($200,000 guaranteed) with the Jets, per Pelissero.
Jordan Jenkins, Edge: Agreed to a one-year deal worth $5 million deal, per Rapoport.
Alex Lewis, G: Agreed to terms on a new deal (terms not disclosed), the team announced.
Bradley McDougald, S: Acquired via trade with the Seahawks, along with a first- and third-round pick in 2021 and a first-rounder in 2022, in exchange for safety Jamal Adams and a fourth-round pick in 2022.
Connor McGovern, signing with the Jets on a three-year, $27 million deal that includes $18 million fully guaranteed, per Pelissero.
Donte Moncrief, WR: Signed with the Jets, the team announced. (UPDATE: The Jets released Moncrief to reach the 53-man roster mark.)
Patrick Onwuasor, LB: Agreed to terms to join the Jets (terms not yet disclosed), Rapoport reported.
Breshad Perriman, WR: Signing a one-year deal worth up to $8 million that includes $6 million guaranteed, per his agent.
Brian Poole, CB: Re-signing with the Jets on a one-year deal worth $5 million guaranteed, per his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.
Greg Van Roten, OL: Signed a three-year deal with the Jets, per Rapoport.

2019 Mid-season Trade/ Acquisition made during or before season

GRADE: F

Claims Kaare Vedvik (Kicker)
Traded Leonard Williams (PRO BOWLER) to the Giants for what would become the great Ashtyn Davis. Thank you, Joe Douglas, Thank you. 

Joe Douglas is the Dave Kingman of NFL GM's. He'll hit a HR once in a while, but strike out more often then anything. You left out the signing of Ryan Khalil from your excellent post. The 22 draft was an A, however, the rest of his regime has been miss much more than hit.

[Larz]

I said in the summer he’s a failure until he gets out of last place so it has to be an F.  

[playtowinthegame]

7 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

Joe Douglas is the Dave Kingman of NFL GM's. He'll hit a HR once in a while, but strike out more often then anything. You left out the signing of Ryan Khalil from your excellent post. The 22 draft was an A, however, the rest of his regime has been miss much more than hit.

I forgot about that signing before the 2019 season! That was definitely a whiff. 

[Darnold's Forehead]

I'm done defending JD because it's impossible to at this point.  The only reason I have defended him up to this point is that he's had a good mindset, one that I have agreed with on almost every move, during the draft and FA.  He seems to know when and what needs to be upgraded, instead of ignoring things like Macc w/ the OL and Idzik w/ the DBs (where's Dmitri Patterson?).

The problem is the players he has chosen/signed at needed positions have mostly sucked.  I think Laken Tomlinson is the epitome of the JD regime.  Sign a probowl reserve and watch as he plays like one of the worst guards in football in green black & white.

[Facts]

He gets no credit from for Sauce or Wilson. They were the OBVIOUS picks. Insert any Joe Schmoe fan and they still get those picks right.

[Claymation]

Joe Douglas hired Robert Saleh, who in turn hire MiLF who after the untimely death of Coach Knapp decided to pull double being an OC and the QB coach. Right then and there that should have been a red flag on Joe, Robert and MiLF.

[Ron Rico]

1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

JD gets one more year. He better hit it out of the park. 

Do you have faith that he will? I don't. I think it's a complete waste of time, but you're probably right, he gets another year.

[Hex]

3 minutes ago, Facts said:

He gets no credit from for Sauce or Wilson. They were the OBVIOUS picks. Insert any Joe Schmoe fan and they still get those picks right.

Olave was picked before Wilson and Stingley was picked before Sauce. The Olave pick was by the same GM that had that amazing 2017 Saints draft. 
So any Joe Schmoe fan could get it right but 2 other NFL GMs couldn’t? 

[Jet Life]

He needs another strong draft to replicate last year. We’re still behind due to 2020s. If he knocks it out of the park hopefully we can become San Fran lite, roster so talented we can compete with whoever at QB

[Facts]

2 minutes ago, Hex said:

Olave was picked before Wilson and Stingley was picked before Sauce. The Olave pick was by the same GM that had that amazing 2017 Saints draft. 
So any Joe Schmoe fan could get it right but 2 other NFL GMs couldn’t? 

AT THE JETS PICK, The obvious pick was Sauce and Wilson.

Because those other players were obviously gone.

JD didn’t have to pick between Olave and Wilson. There was just Wilson left.

And he didn’t have to pick between Stingley and Sauce. Because only Sauce was left.

[Hex]

Halfway through the season JD was the best GM ever and Saleh was going to keep his job for at least another season, and now JD sucks and Saleh should get fired immediately. It’s amazong what losing does to fan perception.

[Claymation]

People are looking at someone to blame. I guess Joe would eventually get blamed for drafting Zach and allowing Robert to hire his best friends brother to develop him.