Athletic report: Sources close to Harbaugh believe it’s “done deal” if he gets NFL offer

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, pointman said:

Let me ask you, is he a bigger gamble in your mind than the absolute trash we have called a head coach here over the last decade? Do you have faith we can find a first time head coach better than him? 

Not sure I'd want to restart at this point and Harbaugh is too volatile for NY , I could see that ending poorly . But if Saleh is let go , he probably would jump to the select list of replacements. I feel that move would be way over  reactionary. 

[pointman]

4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

Not sure I'd want to restart at this point and Harbaugh is too volatile for NY , I could see that ending poorly . But if Saleh is let go , he probably would jump to the select list of replacements. I feel that move would be way over  reactionary. 

lol. Too volatile? How so? So you'd rather hold onto Saleh over Harbaugh? If bringing in Harbaugh is over reactionary, who would you want to see here if Saleh is let go?

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

12 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

Not sure I'd want to restart at this point and Harbaugh is too volatile for NY , I could see that ending poorly . But if Saleh is let go , he probably would jump to the select list of replacements. I feel that move would be way over  reactionary. 

LOL "volatile"

Are we talking foreign policy or radioactive substances here?

Saleh the pacifist hasn't won jack.

Harbaugh wins football games.  He makes an instant impact.

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, pointman said:

lol. Too volatile? How so? So you'd rather hold onto Saleh over Harbaugh? If bringing in Harbaugh is over reactionary, who would you want to see here if Saleh is let go?

C'mon you must be living under a rock if you haven't heard Harbaugh is volatile and considered toxic by some.  I'm not sure who my choice would be ,  imo the question is moot as I highly doubt Saleh is gone after this season. If he was fired , I'd want someone who is progressive on offense like a Payton , if I was going for a younger guy Joe Brady, Press Taylor, Mike Kafka, Bryon Leftwich. Plus I'd have to see who shakes out from the college ranks. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

6 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

C'mon you must be living under a rock if you haven't heard Harbaugh is volatile and considered toxic by some.  I'm not sure who my choice would be ,  imo the question is moot as I highly doubt Saleh is gone after this season. If he was fired , I'd want someone who is progressive on offense like a Payton , if I was going for a younger guy Joe Brady, Press Taylor, Mike Kafka, Bryon Leftwich. Plus I'd have to see who shakes out from the college ranks. 

Elon Musk might an a--hole to work for too.

If I own shares of Tesla or Twitter, what do I care?

Shareholders care about the stock price.  As a fan, I care about wins.

If the "Commanders" were winning playoff games and Super Bowls, fans of the team wouldn't care one bit about Snyder's crimes and indiscretions either.

[pointman]

4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

C'mon you must be living under a rock if you haven't heard Harbaugh is volatile and considered toxic by some.  I'm not sure who my choice would be ,  imo the question is moot as I highly doubt Saleh is gone after this season. If he was fired , I'd want someone who is progressive on offense like a Payton , if I was going for a younger guy Joe Brady, Press Taylor, Mike Kafka, Bryon Leftwich. Plus I'd have to see who shakes out from the college ranks. 

Every winner has his detractors. What is so volatile?

It isn't a moot point as this is a jets discussion board and we are in a tailspin. Saleh has a 50 50 of being gone gone.

So more unproven newcomers. Got it. Hasn't worked for us before, and with the same people owning/making the decisions, the chances of that suddenly changing aren't good. Hitting on the lotto is hard. Especially hard when the one picking the numbers is Woody Johnson.

[56mehl56]

5 minutes ago, pointman said:

Every winner has his detractors. What is so volatile?

It isn't a moot point as this is a jets discussion board and we are in a tailspin. Saleh has a 50 50 of being gone gone.

So more unproven newcomers. Got it. Hasn't worked for us before, and with the same people owning/making the decisions, the chances of that suddenly changing aren't good. Hitting on the lotto is hard. Especially hard when the one picking the numbers is Woody Johnson.

Seemed to work fine in LA, Cin, NYG, even Phi.  

[pointman]

Just now, 56mehl56 said:

Seemed to work fine in LA, Cin, NYG, even Phi.  

lol we are not any of those franchises. 

[56mehl56]

2 minutes ago, pointman said:

lol we are not any of those franchises. 

So it's not all coaching - I see . Plus over the past decade Cin(pre-Burrow/Zac Taylor) and NYG were just as bad as the Jets . 

[pointman]

3 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

So it's not all coaching - I see . Plus over the past decade Cin(pre-Burrow/Zac Taylor) and NYG were just as bad as the Jets . 

We have gone out and brought in new inexperienced people to be our head coach. We haven't come close to picking a winner. The same people are making those decisions. Getting a different result isn't likely. Cincy does have Burrows and the Giants, well, be real... they've outdone us plenty. Like you said, you don't know who you would want and all the names you listed are new to head coaching. You're taking shots in the dark. If you don't think having a proven winner like Harbaugh is a better option than inexperienced people chosen by this ownership, well you get what you deserve.

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, pointman said:

We have gone out and brought in new inexperienced people to be our head coach. We haven't come close to picking a winner. The same people are making those decisions. Getting a different result isn't likely. Cincy does have Burrows and the Giants, well, be real... they've outdone us plenty. Like you said, you don't know who you would want and all the names you listed are new to head coaching. You're taking shots in the dark. If you don't think having a proven winner like Harbaugh is a better option than inexperienced people chosen by this ownership, well you get what you deserve.

You have your opinion , I have mine. I just know blowing it up every two years makes you the Cleveland Browns , not something I want my team to aspire to . Sorry Saleh will be the  HC in 2023. 

[varjet]

Harbaugh built the best Michigan team he is going to build, but with the academic requirements and weather there, I think he has peaked.

Its time for him to go back to the NFL.  

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

6 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

You have your opinion , I have mine. I just know blowing it up every two years makes you the Cleveland Browns , not something I want my team to aspire to . Sorry Saleh will be the  HC in 2023. 

The Jaguars stuck with Gus Bradley for 4 miserable years before firing him.  Held on to Doug Marrone for 5 freaking years.

Was that any better?

On the other hand, they canned Urban Meyer in-season (didn't even give him a full year) and replaced him with Doug Pederson.

It's not about patience for the sake of patience.  It's about finding the right guy.

[56mehl56]

3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

The Jaguars stuck with Gus Bradley for 4 miserable years before firing him.  Held on to Doug Marrone for 5 freaking years.

Was that any better?

On the other hand, they canned Urban Meyer in-season (didn't even give him a full year) and replaced him with Doug Pederson.

It's not about patience for the sake of patience.  It's about finding the right guy.

In hindsight it's always easy to say who was the right/wrong choice. Feeling someone is the right choice doesn't mean it will pan out.  

[Ben Had]

Looks like he's headed to the Panthers....

[pointman]

27 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

You have your opinion , I have mine. I just know blowing it up every two years makes you the Cleveland Browns , not something I want my team to aspire to . Sorry Saleh will be the  HC in 2023. 

Blowing it up when you can see that the ceiling is waist high is the only option. Waiting and praying when you know is being lazy and complacent. We will never be the Browns. A team that is selling their souls to win games by bringing in a hired gun thats a sexual predator. The best part is, he sucks. The Browns will forever live up to their namesake of being a giant turd. 

If Saleh is back I hope he turns it around and wins and continues with his receipts on all that called for his head. Realistically, he is just wasting all of our time on Woody's dime.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

17 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

In hindsight it's always easy to say who was the right/wrong choice. Feeling someone is the right choice doesn't mean it will pan out.  

You are the one saying they should stick with 11-22 Saleh

[joetheman]

Elon Musk might an a--hole to work for too.
If I own shares of Tesla or Twitter, what do I care?
Shareholders care about the stock price.  As a fan, I care about wins.
If the "Commanders" were winning playoff games and Super Bowls, fans of the team wouldn't care one bit about Snyder's crimes and indiscretions either.

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[pointman]

I know we can't have nice things, but just for a moment when I think about landing someone like Harbaugh, I get giddy. Imagine what that would be like. A head coach that knows how and when to use a time out.

[56mehl56]

2 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

You are the one saying they should stick with 11-22 Saleh

Exactly, this team regardless of the record is light years better than last years squad. Unfortunately QB is still the big Q for next year , but hiring a name HC doesn't mean that problem will get fixed anymore than with the current staff. 

[pointman]

1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said:

Exactly, this team regardless of the record is light years better than last years squad. Unfortunately QB is still the big Q for next year , but hiring a name HC doesn't mean that problem will get fixed anymore than with the current staff. 

A big name HC that has proven he knows what he is doing won't save time outs for later when later doesn't exist. He won't allow his coordinators to not give his best players more snaps because of whatever reasons, including but not limited to 'he was sucking air on the sideline'. A big time HC will find the right people to develop young talent like Zach and Johnson. A big time HC won't be always a minute too late in making personnel changes. 

[Larz]

Some owner after spending 20k to fly him out on the private jet and wine and fine him and then he takes a counter offer to stay and puts out a press release stating to Michigan fans “ LETS FINISH THE JOB GO BLUE “

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, pointman said:

A big name HC that has proven he knows what he is doing won't save time outs for later when later doesn't exist. He won't allow his coordinators to not give his best players more snaps because of whatever reasons, including but not limited to 'he was sucking air on the sideline'. A big time HC will find the right people to develop young talent like Zach and Johnson. A big time HC won't be always a minute too late in making personnel changes. 

Then why doesn't a team with a big name HC win the SB every year , if they are the perfect remedy to all that ails teams why doesn't Belicheck or John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy win the SB every season.

Every team has issues and and every HC makes mistakes . So many things have to break right for a team to succeed ( talent,  injuries, drafting , FA signings , schedules, weather) you can't just plug in a established HC and expect them to win overnight. Most of the guys that are lauded as quality name HC"s have stability and their front offices sticking with them and supporting them in the best way possible even when things aren't perfect. 

[pointman]

Just now, 56mehl56 said:

Then why doesn't a team with a big name HC win the SB every year , if they are the perfect remedy to all that ails teams why doesn't Belicheck or John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy win the SB every season.

Every team has issues and and every HC makes mistakes . So many things have to break right for a team to succeed ( talent,  injuries, drafting , FA signings , schedules, weather) you can't just plug in a established HC and expect them to win overnight. Most of the guys that are lauded as quality name HC"s have stability and their front offices sticking with them and supporting them in the best way possible even when things aren't perfect. 

We are talking about us. We do the same things over and over and don't learn. Those teams with big name HCs are perennial winners. I am not talking about us winning the SB yet. I am talking about us not being hot garbage. You seem to be really in love with Saleh or continuing to bring in new unproven coaches to become a first time head coach. Odd stance, but go with it. 

[56mehl56]

3 hours ago, pointman said:

We are talking about us. We do the same things over and over and don't learn. Those teams with big name HCs are perennial winners. I am not talking about us winning the SB yet. I am talking about us not being hot garbage. You seem to be really in love with Saleh or continuing to bring in new unproven coaches to become a first time head coach. Odd stance, but go with it. 

Not opposed to any option that equates to winning,  I just personally don't like Harbaugh. I'm on the fence with RS but I hate starting over every 2 years. 

[VJphillyfan]

On 1/3/2023 at 1:22 AM, nyjets1969 said:

To bring in Harbaugh Woody would have to hire him as team president / coach Woody wants to be President.

Never happening.  That’s why Woody will never get a big time coach.  He enjoys playing amateur NFL GM/Head Coach too much

[VJphillyfan]

3 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

Not opposed to any option that equates to winning,  I just personally don't like Harbaugh. I'm on the fence with RS but I hate starting over every 2 years. 

For all you Zach Beliebers I would love to see Harbaugh with Zach just for the comedy value

[Maynard13]

On 1/2/2023 at 2:29 PM, HawkeyeJet said:

The pieces we currently have in place scream “ideal” fit for a Harbaugh offense.  I’d still be surprised, but not shocked, if Saleh is gone, but Harbaugh would make more sense to me than Peyton.
 

Hey Harbaugh could place Saleh as DC, Ulbrich as Asst DC and LaFluer as a gopher. 

[jetsons]

10 hours ago, Larz said:

Some owner after spending 20k to fly him out on the private jet and wine and fine him and then he takes a counter offer to stay and puts out a press release stating to Michigan fans “ LETS FINISH THE JOB GO BLUE “

20 grand for him is like 20 bucks for you or me... plus he'll have it written off as a business expense... either way he's letting the team & their fan base know he's looking for a proven commodity.

[jetsons]

10 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

Then why doesn't a team with a big name HC win the SB every year , if they are the perfect remedy to all that ails teams why doesn't Belicheck or John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy win the SB every season.

Every team has issues and and every HC makes mistakes . So many things have to break right for a team to succeed ( talent,  injuries, drafting , FA signings , schedules, weather) you can't just plug in a established HC and expect them to win overnight. Most of the guys that are lauded as quality name HC"s have stability and their front offices sticking with them and supporting them in the best way possible even when things aren't perfect. 

1 question... would you trade what those HC's have done with their teams with what the Jets HC's have done over the last 20 years.?

[neckdemon]

On 1/2/2023 at 2:17 PM, Biggs said:

He's wife loves NY.  Have Zach escort her around the city to seal the deal.  

no coach of any real caliber is going to choose to coach a team with zach wilson still being considered our franchise qb of the future. the course of action should be to get a guy like car in, re-sign mike white as backup and wilson is 3rd string and cut as soon as it makes financial sense as far as the cap goes. the kid is total garbage

[Sonny Werblin]

On 1/2/2023 at 2:14 PM, Jet Life said:

Make the call Woody!

I love jim Harbaugh and i find it difficult to believe that he would confide in anyone who would be a source for these types of reports.

[Sonny Werblin]

2 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

no coach of any real caliber is going to choose to coach a team with zach wilson still being considered our franchise qb of the future. the course of action should be to get a guy like car in, re-sign mike white as backup and wilson is 3rd string and cut as soon as it makes financial sense as far as the cap goes. the kid is total garbage

He took the frisco job with a failed alex smith at qb

[Sonny Werblin]

13 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

Then why doesn't a team with a big name HC win the SB every year , if they are the perfect remedy to all that ails teams why doesn't Belicheck or John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy win the SB every season.

?? Doesn’t one of the big name coaches win the SB almost every year?

[TuscanyTile2]

12 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

?? Doesn’t one of the big name coaches win the SB almost every year?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_Bowl_head_coaches