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[Lupz27]

26 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

In recent years player prop bets have been cancelled when a guy gets hurt a few minutes in. Happened the other day in a Knicks game. It's a bad precedent to be honest. Players get injured all the time. It's sports. Where exactly do you set your cutoff at?

 

However, this actually IS unprecedented. Game should be graded a push/cancel. If the game is treated like baseball and continues at a later time I can see those money line/spread bets carrying over. Any props SHOULD be cancelled though. 

 

Just my opinion. 

What will happen is all winning bets will be canceled first TD scorer and other settled props but all losing bets already settled on those will stand, all unsettled bets will probably be canceled.

[Jet_Engine1]

5 minutes ago, maury77 said:

Brian Sutterer is a doctor that posts videos on youtube. This shows the hit and is (I believe) a good explanation of commotio cordis

 

It's almost the inverse of "Precordial Thump" we used to do for witnessed arrest without AED.

[Maynard13]

2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

What will happen is all winning bets will be canceled first TD scorer and other settled props but all losing bets already settled on those will stand, all unsettled bets will probably be canceled.

Why are you talking about bets at a time like this. Just stop.

[baldman]

https://youtu.be/H-G9mziXL9w

 

[Lupz27]

17 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

If I had to guess, the D-Gens will be bigger assholes about tonight than the Books. 

You underestimate the disgustingness of the gambling business it’s worse then Goodell.

[Jet_Engine1]

4 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

(From Damar's Marketing rep) Update on Damar:

His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests. 

I hope this is true and real. If so, I think he has a 99.9% chance of a full recovery.  But his FB career is over. 

[Aussie Jet]

I also hope that Tee Higgins is supported. 

In Australia a few years ago, a professional cricketer, Phil Hughes, died after being hit in the neck by a cricket ball during a game. The bowler, Sean Abbott, had to deal with the psychological trauma of having bowled the ball that hit him. It wasn't Abbott's fault, and it isn't Higgins' fault.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I hope this is true and real. If so, I think he has a 99.9% chance of a full recovery.  But his FB career is over. 

It's real. Just don't know how to post the original tweet.  

[Maynard13]

3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I hope this is true and real. If so, I think he has a 99.9% chance of a full recovery.  But his FB career is over. 

That sounds great. Thank you for your insight. We are all better for it here tonight. 

[Jet9]

3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

What will happen is all winning bets will be canceled first TD scorer and other settled props but all losing bets already settled on those will stand, all unsettled bets will probably be canceled.

See I was thinking it depends on if the league restarts this game where it is score and time -wise.

[Lupz27]

11 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

I'll never forget that look on Josh Allen's face. 

That’s the moment I knew something was really wrong 

[Dunnie]

I hope this is true and real. If so, I think he has a 99.9% chance of a full recovery.  But his FB career is over. 

Thanks man.

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[Jet9]

5 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

You underestimate the disgustingness of the gambling business it’s worse then Goodell.

I know how it works. The Knicks game the other day I disagreed with the books but it was completely in favor of the bettor. 

[Lupz27]

8 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Why are you talking about bets at a time like this. Just stop.

I’m answering questions to keep people occupied while we all wait for an update on this kid hopefully positive and miracleish.  Please come down.

[shawn306]

[Bleedin Green]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said:

I also hope that Tee Higgins is supported. 

In Australia a few years ago, a professional cricketer, Phil Hughes, died after being hit in the neck by a cricket ball during a game. The bowler, Sean Abbott, had to deal with the psychological trauma of having bowled the ball that hit him. It wasn't Abbott's fault, and it isn't Higgins' fault.

I was actually just thinking about this.  The greatest concern is of course Hamlin, but you have to really hope for the best of Higgins too.  There's no way he can't be having a very tough time right now, I cannot even imagine being in his shoes and no idea how anyone could handle that at this point.  Hopefully the team, his family, and whoever else are there for him.

Hopefully more than anything Hamlin comes out of this alright, and that will have a significant positive impact on a lot of people if so.

[Jet9]

9 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Why are you talking about bets at a time like this. Just stop.

Someone asked what happens in a situation like this because they saw pissy D-Gens talking about it on Twitter. Don't tell people what they can talk about, ever. E-points aren't a real thing, my guy. 

[Lupz27]

4 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

See I was thinking it depends on if the league restarts this game where it is score and time -wise.

Yes and the books house rules mine states if the game is finished within 48 hours bets stand.  See what NFL does they can’t make these kids play this week IMO if this guy isn’t ok.

[celtasnake]

 

[Barkus]

6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I hope this is true and real. If so, I think he has a 99.9% chance of a full recovery.  But his FB career is over. 

Umm no, if he was truly down in the field for several minutes requiring CPR there is serious concern for anoxic brain injury. It appears he is sedated and intubated right now from the info available. Once his vitals are stabilized and they have a better idea what is going on we can have a better idea of his prognosis. 

[Aussie Jet]

Stefon Diggs has gone to the hospital, according to ESPN.

[Aussie Jet]

4 minutes ago, celtasnake said:

 

Hopefully this is accurate, but the hospital hasn't officially or publicly given an update so I wonder if this is just restating the tweet from Hamlin's agent/marketing rep.

[sourceworx]

4 minutes ago, celtasnake said:

 

Great news.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

2 minutes ago, Barkus said:

Umm no, if he was truly down in the field for several minutes requiring CPR there is serious concern for anoxic brain injury. It appears he is sedated and intubated right now from the info available. Once his vitals are stabilized and they have a better idea what is going on we can have a better idea of his prognosis. 

I would imagine it all depends on how fast the AED successfully restored the heart beat and how long the brain was without oxygen.  When I was a coach, we were trained that every minute counts, which is why we had the AED on the field/bench during lax and hockey games.  Some facilities store the AED in a place near the field, but we were told that was too far away and would take too long.  For 10 years of coaching, one of the coaches carried the AED with them to every game.

[AbstraKt]

 

 

[sourceworx]

I'll be honest with you guys, if it's true that the league wanted the players to resume play after that, I don't think I can support the NFL anymore. Makes me sick to my stomach.

Also if it's true, much love for the coaches of both teams for showing Roger Goodell what doing the right thing looks like.

[jeremy2020]

ESPN: It's unconscionable that the NFL didn't suspend this game immediately.

Also ESPN: Here's a report on the mode of transportation that Stefon Diggs took to the hospital

[Joe W. Namath]

1 minute ago, AbstraKt said:

 

 

Stop focusing on this crap.  The NFL has never been through anything like this before.  The game was canceled and that officially came from the NFL.  There was no need to rush to judgement and cancel the game.  In the end, the right call was made.

Focusing on if the game should have been canceled earlier is pathetic.

 

[Barkus]

2 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

I would imagine it all depends on how fast the AED successfully restored the heart beat and how long the brain was without oxygen.  When I was a coach, we were trained that every minute counts, which is why we had the AED on the field/bench during lax and hockey games.  Some facilities store the AED in a place near the field, but we were told that was too far away and would take too long.  For 10 years of coaching, one of the coaches carried the AED with them to every game.

That’s the key point, if he had a shockable rhythm the AED would have been used to restore the rhythm, thus CPR would have been unnecessary. If he truly needed CPR for 8 minutes that is not good. ? 

[undertow]

23 minutes ago, sourceworx said:

I'll be honest with you guys, if it's true that the league wanted the players to resume play after that, I don't think I can support the NFL anymore. Makes me sick to my stomach.

Also if it's true, much love for the coaches of both teams for showing Roger Goodell what doing the right thing looks like.

Maybe they just needed some time to figure things out in a unprecidented situation....the constant hysteria and virtue signaling by people is a show or you have just been trained to be outraged by everything.

[sourceworx]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Stop focusing on this crap.  The NFL has never been through anything like this before.  The game was canceled and that officially came from the NFL.  There was no need to rush to judgement and cancel the game.  In the end, the right call was made.

Focusing on if the game should have been canceled earlier is pathetic.

 

I don't care about when it was cancelled. I care about how.

If the coaches had to force Roger Goodell's hand, then f*ck him and f*ck this league. It's disgusting.

[Aussie Jet]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Stop focusing on this crap.  The NFL has never been through anything like this before.  The game was canceled and that officially came from the NFL.  There was no need to rush to judgement and cancel the game.  In the end, the right call was made.

Focusing on if the game should have been canceled earlier is pathetic.

 

It was only suspended because the coaches got on the phone with the NFL head office and said collectively that their players were in no condition to play after seeing what they saw.

ESPN has broadcast footage of McDermott and Taylor on the phone with Dawn Aponte and the head referee next to them.

The NFL initially telling the players they had five minutes to compose themselves to start warming up to play is unconscionable and they should be called out for it.

[ultraJETfan]

Wife is a nurse and says vitals back to normal is good but intubated means can't breathe on their own which obviously is bad. Similar situation happened in soccer Euro Cup with a Denmark player. He made a full recovery and is playing again but he did not get hit in the chest. This is more like a car crash type of injury. Forgive my eloquence atm. That's the best way I can think to describe it.

UEFA did not suspend the game. A lot of criticism over their decision.

[Maynard13]

19 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

Someone asked what happens in a situation like this because they saw pissy D-Gens talking about it on Twitter. Don't tell people what they can talk about, ever. E-points aren't a real thing, my guy. 

Go FYS

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

3 minutes ago, sourceworx said:

I don't care about when it was cancelled. I care about how.

If the coaches had to force Roger Goodell's hand, then f*ck him and f*ck this league. It's disgusting.

Nobody knows that this happened.  There is no indication that the NFL did anything inappropriate or incorrect here