Bronx Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: LMAO Can't make this Sh!t up! Confess people and come out of the closet! I wanted him red-shirted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Damning quote. But how is this LaFleur’s fault? Douglas drafted him and Saleh decides who plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: They're all to blame. JD, Saleh and LaFluer. They discussed a plan and thought, yeah this will be fine. JD, Saleh and MLF after the 1st Patriot game last season: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, slimjasi said: In hindsight, we should have cut Braden Mann when he made that tackle against the Rams. Should have been cut week before to have achieved desired result.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: So you’re implying he’s throwing saleh under the bus so he can get another job. It probably wasn’t Saleh’s decision either 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I watched this press conference and got the impression that LaFluer knows he's a dead man walking. Just a vibe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 This cabal will be hard pressed to answer whatever Woody questions and his advisers pose. It sounds like a circular firing squad. The only mystery is at what section does Woody cut the snake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: I watched this press conference and got the impression that LaFluer knows he's a dead man walking. Just a vibe. I had the same interpretation. At the end of the day, it's going to be hard to sell keeping an OC whose offense has scored 3 total TDs in 5 games during a playoff race. And you can't make it all about Zach Wilson - he only played in 2 of those 5 games. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, slimjasi said: I had the same interpretation. At the end of the day, it's going to be hard to sell keeping an OC whose offense has scored 3 total TDs in 5 games during a playoff race. And you can't make it all about Zach Wilson - he only played in 2 of those 5 games. That’s where MLF has no answer, he failed with white also. But saleh is also out of excuses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It probably wasn’t Saleh’s decision either So you’re saying it was woody’s decision to both draft and start wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: So you’re saying it was woody’s decision to both draft and start wilson? I’m saying Douglas took his shot on a QB and pushed it down everyone’s throat 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I'm not so certain I understand the issue this board has with what he said. In hindsight it would have been wiser to let this kid learn on the sidelines for a year rather than go out there with little clue what he was doing and subsequently get into terrible habits and losing all of his confidence. He is actually taking some accountability for ruining ZW. He is also throwing some shade on the HC so I like to think they talked this out together and agreed on this position. At the end of the day I don't think stating the obvious is a damning strategy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 29 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It was not his decision to start Zach Wilson from day one and he wants everyone to know it He obviously didn’t know the car was stolen and thought a ride would be fun. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Damning quote. But how is this LaFleur’s fault? Douglas drafted him and Saleh decides who plays. Another example of how a terrible org, does bad things. Everyone loves to blame ZW as if its his fault, but once hes gone, the terrible org remains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Flea Flicking Frank said: Another example of how a terrible org, does bad things. Everyone loves to blame ZW as if its his fault, but once hes gone, the terrible org remains. The rest of the league sees how darnold is playing better and how bad wilson has been. It’s easy to see how the jets’ coaching has been worse than the drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m saying Douglas took his shot on a QB and pushed it down everyone’s throat Its impossilbe to know this. I remember reading early on that LaFleur was at his pro day and was really, really high on ZW and pushed for him. The problem with this org structure is nobody knows who the fk is to blame for stupid decisions. I don't think that is an accident, and I think its by design. so woody can fire whoever he wants to whenever he wants to and keep guys like Rex around who make him feel good 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Augustiniak said: The rest of the league sees how darnold is playing better and how bad wilson has been. It’s easy to see how the jets’ coaching has been worse than the drafting. I agree, but JD is supposed to be the guy in charge, so if he has the ability, he has to have the right coaching, or thats on him, but I don't know what authority he actually has, we know Woody likes to be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I appreciate the honesty in this press conference, but damn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, football guy said: I appreciate the honesty in this press conference, but damn He sounded like he's already been informed he's being let go....but Saleh is standing behind him. I think ownership expressed their desire for him to go, but Saleh saying no. Should be an interesting offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: I agree, but JD is supposed to be the guy in charge, so if he has the ability, he has to have the right coaching, or thats on him, but I don't know what authority he actually has, we know Woody likes to be involved You can keep pushing it up. There are lots of coordinators who get hired who pan out. It’s just amazing that the jets keep hiring a bunch of inept coaching staffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Close but not an ideal course of action. In hindsight, Zach Wilson should not have been drafted. And... I see ZERO reason here to lambast LeFluer. He was the one that got stuck with Wilson. Direct the slings and arrows at JD. HE and only HE is the one that was pushing for ZW every step of the way. And now, I need to find a good hiding spot. After he reads this, he will break me like pretzel. Stuck with Wilson? Are you implying he had zero input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Stuck with Wilson? Are you implying he had zero input? Yes. 100 % 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ultimatly saleh has to take ownership. I have this image of his head superimposed over wyle e coyote’s body holding a fire me sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Yeah not sure why people still think anyone other than Rob Calabrese is getting fired. Woody gave Bowles 4 painful years. They're all getting 1 more year to make it happen. I'd be shocked if JD, Saleh, or Mike got axed. Would be a ? move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Oh and I watched the pc and Lafleur went out of his way to mention Jordan Loves progress when talking about sitting and learning.. Hmmm. Make it happen JD! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlite80 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Sounds like deflecting the blame. It wasn't my play calling, it was the QB I got stuck with. I guess that explains why his offense didn't show up the last 5 games. Why they scored a grand total of 4 touchdowns in 5 games, 3 of which against second tier defenses. I guess it explains why we consistently had the worst opening drives ever seen. Zach was benched for not accepting responsibility. Didn't the offensive coordinator just do the same thing? If they are truly committed to Zach, they need to sign a veteran to start next year. Let Zach win the job if he can. They, also, need to remove "stubborn" from the personality of the OC. Play to the talent of the players you have. Look up terms like change the tempo, Hurry up offense. If your QB struggles under pressure and the other team is blitzing on almost every play, go to the page of plays to beat the blitz. Zach should handle it better but teams are supposed to get burned if the offense smells blitz. Mike White gets rid of the ball as quick as anyone and he didn't beat the blitz either. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: He sounded like he's already been informed he's being let go....but Saleh is standing behind him. I think ownership expressed their desire for him to go, but Saleh saying no. Should be an interesting offseason. I haven't heard anything other than the organization defending him. I don't know what ownership is planning but they haven't said anything either. Most people expect him back but with changes to the offensive coaching staff. There are expiring contracts that they will need to decide whether to renew or replace, as well as critical decisions as to who will be the main voice in the QB room/how its constructed. As far as this press conference: I feel like this is just him trying to be honest with the situation... he was a little emotional last week and looks/sounds worn out by everything that has happened recently. He's transforming into Adam Gase... 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted January 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, football guy said: I haven't heard anything other than the organization defending him. I don't know what ownership is planning but they haven't said anything either. Most people expect him back but with changes to the offensive coaching staff. There are expiring contracts that they will need to decide whether to renew or replace, as well as critical decisions as to who will be the main voice in the QB room/how its constructed. As far as this press conference: I feel like this is just him trying to be honest with the situation... he was a little emotional last week and looks/sounds worn out by everything that has happened recently. He's transforming into Adam Gase... Dear Lord....what this team does to players, coaches, scouts, executives. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trotter Posted January 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Dear Lord....what this team does to players, coaches, scouts, executives. It is the toxic fan’s fault. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: I believe it was an organizational decision to start fresh with new blood across the board. The fact that MLF is now questioning it means he's throwing JD and Saleh under the bus morso than ZW. Seems like he's in self preservation mode. He’s starting with the premise that Wilson is not only bad, but he’s also corrupted goods and nothing can be done with him. He’s using the hypothetical that maybe if he sat the bench for X number of games/seasons he’d be good, but whoops to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I will get blasted but it is what it is He is just stating what he has learned, he was wrong to start ZW and should have had him sit. It’s ok that he is learning from a mistake. That’s what we want, young coaches learning from mistakes. you hire a staff of all first time personnel, from gm to entire coaching staff, they are going to make mistakes. ( yes, this was a huge one) learn from it and get better. This is why we never develop coaches or players, we don’t let them learn on the job. Hire a real QB coach and then go get a vet QB and sit ZW for the next year! If he don’t learn then it’s on him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m saying Douglas took his shot on a QB and pushed it down everyone’s throat I know the wound of this seasons disappointment is still fresh… But it’s ironic to me that the Jets finally have a coach with some gumption, who stands up to the front office and people here are calling for his head. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: I will get blasted but it is what it is He is just stating what he has learned, he was wrong to start ZW and should have had him sit. It’s ok that he is learning from a mistake. That’s what we want, young coaches learning from mistakes. you hire a staff of all first time personnel, from gm to entire coaching staff, they are going to make mistakes. ( yes, this was a huge one) learn from it and get better. This is why we never develop coaches or players, we don’t let them learn on the job. Hire a real QB coach and then go get a vet QB and sit ZW for the next year! If he don’t learn then it’s on him. Nice to know. But it also deflects attention for how bad his offense is with mike white. There is nothing MLF he can point to that demonstrates competence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, football guy said: I haven't heard anything other than the organization defending him. I don't know what ownership is planning but they haven't said anything either. Most people expect him back but with changes to the offensive coaching staff. There are expiring contracts that they will need to decide whether to renew or replace, as well as critical decisions as to who will be the main voice in the QB room/how its constructed. As far as this press conference: I feel like this is just him trying to be honest with the situation... he was a little emotional last week and looks/sounds worn out by everything that has happened recently. He's transforming into Adam Gase... sorry but they need sign some high priced vet QB this off season and before they can do that they have to make coaching changes before FA fine keep Saleh but what vet QB is gonna trust MLF in any capacity now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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