Robert "Kojak" Salads debunks Lafleur's comments

[Bronx]

 

[doitny]

well to be fair and you guys know i cant stand Zach, he had a really good preseason his 1st year. i dont think not one of us thought he wasnt going to be good or shouldnt have started game 1. 

[JiFtheOracle]

[Bronx]

3 minutes ago, doitny said:

well to be fair and you guys know i cant stand Zach, he had a really good preseason his 1st year. i dont think not one of us thought he wasnt going to be good or shouldnt have started game 1. 

JD should have resigned Bridgewater and allow Zuck Wilson to watch and learn. Several folks wanted to start him right away due to his draft status. In addition, ZW was given most first team reps than all other QBs combined. 

[Charlie Brown]

Saleh isn’t debunking anything!

A young QB in Zach Wilson preformed extremely well in the preseason and some out here were losing their minds saying he was the next Dan Marino! Yes he was performing well.  

But the sane amongst us said no he was not Marino or Montana because of the PRESEASON yet and that Wilson should sit and learn because he was going to have problems in the transition to real NFL play and we had heard this nonsense before with the Jets (see, Sanchez and Darnold)
 
Unfortunately, for him Saleh’s statement just reveals ignorance and an inability to properly assess the QB position by a defensively minded coach.  

Indeed, the fact that Zach Wilson has regressed under Jets so called inexperienced coaching is yet another indictment of the staff.

Please, please, please…….Jets get someone in here who can teach and coach the QB position and not just admit by their statements that they don’t know what they are doing.  

[jamesr]

This is the challenge with Zach ... he will look great in practice and then it all goes to pot when the bullets start flying for real.

How many times was he running for his life and getting pummelled to the turf in training camp?

[Integrity28]

So it begins… 

[derp]

Do you recall the QB’s Wilson was competing against in 2021 training camp? Those statements aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

Based on how the roster was constructed, Douglas ensured the QB he took second overall was handed the starting job. There wasn’t a realistic avenue for him to sit a year behind any quarterback on that roster.

They should have signed a vet prior to the draft and announced that guy was getting the season. And probably another to sit behind him. Wilson QB3 for the year.

[BP]

26 minutes ago, JiFields said:

They’re not even on the same pages. The wheels came off 6 weeks ago and now the sparks are going to ignite an explosion 

[BP]

32 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

What are you, like 70?

[BP]

{#takeflight/#crashandburn)

[JiFtheOracle]

26 minutes ago, BP said:

They’re not even on the same pages. The wheels came off 6 weeks ago and now the sparks are going to ignite an explosion 

The hilarity behind this sh*t show is, there was nobody to play so Zach could sit and there was nobody to compete w/ Zach that made him earn it.

This is a complete and utter mess.  I honestly dont understand how you can retain this staff w/ any confidence.  It's a cluster **** of stupidity.

[kevinc855]

Douglas construction of the roster ensured Wilson would start. Was convinced he look like the GM savior booting Sam and bringing in someone who he thought be better on a rookie deal starting at year 1…..

WHOOPS

Plenty of blame to go around here. The circling firing squad has begun 

[bd71]

[Trotter]

38 minutes ago, BP said:

What are you, like 70?

Telly was cool. 
he was no frank cannon though

[JTJet]

11 minutes ago, JiFields said:

The hilarity behind this sh*t show is, there was nobody to play so Zach could sit and there was nobody to compete w/ Zach that made him earn it.

This is a complete and utter mess.  I honestly dont understand how you can retain this staff w/ any confidence.  It's a cluster **** of stupidity.

I would say its one more feather in the cap as to why we should toss them out. 

At this point, Saleh over her like...

[rangerous]

40 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Saleh isn’t debunking anything!

A young QB in Zach Wilson preformed extremely well in the preseason and some out here were losing their minds saying he was the next Dan Marino! Yes he was performing well.  

But the sane amongst us said no he was not Marino or Montana because of the PRESEASON yet and that Wilson should sit and learn because he was going to have problems in the transition to real NFL play and we had heard this nonsense before with the Jets (see, Sanchez and Darnold)
 
Unfortunately, for him Saleh’s statement just reveals ignorance and an inability to properly assess the QB position by a defensively minded coach.  

Indeed, the fact that Zach Wilson has regressed under Jets so called inexperienced coaching is yet another indictment of the staff.

Please, please, please…….Jets get someone in here who can teach and coach the QB position and not just admit by their statements that they don’t know what they are doing.  

some good points.  if a student isn't learning is it the fault of the student or the teacher?  i know in my experience i needed a physical teacher presence to learn.  i struggle with on line learning.  so, in my opinion, and based on good players being put into dog houses, i can't see how milf needs to take quite a bit of blame for zwilson's regression.  obviously this team was hurt by the revolving door on the oline and the lack of a run game.  that's plenty obvious.  the surest way to have a young qb succeed is to run the ball.  and zwilson, for whatever reason, didn't seem to have much in sync with the receivers other than gwilson, davis, conklin, and berrios.  moore wasn't being thrown too and neither was mims or smith.  if zwilson doesn't have confidence in the team around him then it will affect his play. 

the bottom line is the jets would be right to keep zwilson.  if sitting next season is the right thing for the team's succeed then so be it.  likewise, zwilson could very well be deemed good enough to start.  things can change pretty darn fast.  the downside is, at this point, i don't think the jets know if they need to be looking for a 2-3 season starter or a one year.

[BP]

5 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Telly was cool. 
he was no frank cannon though

All 3 are on me tv in the middle of the night. In 2021 when I hurt my shoulder and couldn’t sleep for 8 months I watched every episode of mannix, cannon and barnaby Jones before work 

[Fantasy Island]

Bobby Salad needs to get his PVO self help book and burn it.

??️ ? 

[HighPitch]

So him sitting and watching would have helped him make 4 yard screen passes? Idk guys how much i can buy into this.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

ok sure Bobby

— Wilson handed every 1st team rep in camp

— Words “QB competition” never uttered once by coaches or front office at any time 

— Zero attempt to bring in a proven vet QB prior to season.  Only other potential “threat” was pre-Bengals eruption MW.

Sauce had to “earn” his starting job.  ZW didn’t have to do jack.

Not even the pretense of an open competition this year or last.

[Xtina]

1 hour ago, BP said:

What are you, like 70?

Or 7? Changing Saleh to Salads, so mature 

 

[SickJetFan]

2 hours ago, doitny said:

well to be fair and you guys know i cant stand Zach, he had a really good preseason his 1st year. i dont think not one of us thought he wasnt going to be good or shouldnt have started game 1. 

that 1st green and white scrimmage he looked horrible and was the 1st sign,

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, derp said:

Do you recall the QB’s Wilson was competing against in 2021 training camp? Those statements aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

Based on how the roster was constructed, Douglas ensured the QB he took second overall was handed the starting job. There wasn’t a realistic avenue for him to sit a year behind any quarterback on that roster.

They should have signed a vet prior to the draft and announced that guy was getting the season. And probably another to sit behind him. Wilson QB3 for the year.

+1 They stacked the deck for Wilson to have the job. Traded Sam right after the Pro Day and went into camp with Mike White and James Morgan. They went sink or swim with Zach and this is what sinking looks like.

[Bronx]

34 minutes ago, Xtina said:

Or 7? Changing Saleh to Salads, so mature 

 

You are still cute to me. 

[Fantasy Island]

34 minutes ago, Xtina said:

Or 7? Changing Saleh to Salads, so mature 

 

It’s disrespectful….. to a salad.

[SickJetFan]

[SickJetFan]

I cant wait for their next pressers...both of them...what folly will they come up with next...becoming more entertaining than the product on the field.

[derp]

41 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

+1 They stacked the deck for Wilson to have the job. Traded Sam right after the Pro Day and went into camp with Mike White and James Morgan. They went sink or swim with Zach and this is what sinking looks like.

And ultimately I don’t know how much input the coaching staff had there, but roster stuff falls on Douglas first.

[section314]

Bigger picture here… sure doesn’t seem to bode well for MLF’s future here.

[FootballLove]

Saleh etching 'All Gas No Zack' on all the glass doors was probably a mistake

[Larz]

[varjet]

the lack of Jet Wear on MLF would appear telling.   I think he does have a brilliant football mind and he will be successful somewhere.  He just did not set up, or was not allowed to set up, a deep and broad offensive staff that could teach and implement his vision.  He also appeared to show the inability to work with the next generation of spoiled, coddled difficult players that unfortunately most teams half to know how to deal with.  

Best answer for MLF is to move on and find something else, but I am not certain if the Jets at this point can replace him with someone better.  Reich with a full staff would be someone better.  

[T0mShane]

15 minutes ago, derp said:

And ultimately I don’t know how much input the coaching staff had there, but roster stuff falls on Douglas first.

It’s hard to believe any coaching staff would want to go into a season without a veteran backup, and it’s even harder to believe any GM would let a rookie coach dictate that sort of thing anyway. This had to be Douglas all the way, and intentionally. 

[bostonmajet]

I think this points to a possibility of a change this offseason. LaFleur clearly trying to save his job and Saleh saying that he isn't going to agree on LaFleur's assessment and by contradicting him, points out that they are not on the same page and he is positioning him to be thrown under the bus.