Jets Things Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Draft OL in first round and go get Rodgers. Super Bowl favorites. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Jets Things said: Draft OL in first round and go get Rodgers. Super Bowl favorites. Super Bowl favorite sounds good. What do you think it will take to get Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 So let me understand your plan. You want to trade the 2023, 2024 and 2025 first round drafts picks to move up and draft another qb so we can have a qb room next year of: Zach: a guy we don't want to play Rookie: a guy that shouldn't play his first year White: a guy with no ribs And before you say we'll sign Jimmy G, no, we won't. Cause we can't have 4 qbs making a combined 60-70M and then be forced to carry 4 qbs on the 53. Never mind if you invest that kind of draft capital and cap space to the qb position you can't upgrade the oline. So any of these options will be behind a terrible line. So you'd realistically be looking at white starting, rookie backup, zach behind them. So basically by week 3 the rookie will be forced to start because white can't stay healthy and then your backup is zach. You're trusting these guys to pick and develop another rookie while the ghost of zach wilson still lingers on the roster. This is your plan, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: So let me understand your plan. You want to trade the 2023, 2024 and 2025 first round drafts picks to move up and draft another qb so we can have a qb room next year of: Zach: a guy we don't want to play Rookie: a guy that shouldn't play his first year White: a guy with no ribs And before you say we'll sign Jimmy G, no, we won't. Cause we can't have 4 qbs making a combined 60-70M and then be forced to carry 4 qbs on the 53. Never mind if you invest that kind of draft capital and cap space to the qb position you can't upgrade the oline. So any of these options will be behind a terrible line. So you'd realistically be looking at white starting, rookie backup, zach behind them. So basically by week 3 the rookie will be forced to start because white can't stay healthy and then your backup is zach. You're trusting these guys to pick and develop another rookie while the ghost of zach wilson still lingers on the roster. This is your plan, correct? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: The Texans are idiots. They won today and lost the #1 pick. The Bears aren’t going to go QB, so they’ll probably make the spot available to the highest bidder. (If they don’t they’re as dumb as Houston) Bryce Young, and any other QB are on the table now for any team that wants them. We should be at the front of the line, unless you believe a vet nobody else wants is going to take us where we want to go. Mr. Irrelevant is vastly better than our #2 overall first round QB. Hard pass on any QB in rounds 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, GangGreened said: I think I’d rather punt on 2023 then let Joe Douglas give up all of our draft capital for the next 2 years and let him pick a QB that high again. Maye/Williams 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 14 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: No. Apologies for my misunderstanding. Please enlighten me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: Apologies for my misunderstanding. Please enlighten me. I explained what I would do in two separate posts after the OP. one was the 23rd post on page one, the other was #10 on page 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 53 minutes ago, Jets Things said: Draft OL in first round and go get Rodgers. Super Bowl favorites. 49 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Super Bowl favorite sounds good. What do you think it will take to get Rodgers? A 6th rd pick for a washed qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: A 6th rd pick for a washed qb. I don’t want Rodgers. 😉 I wasn’t agreeing, I wanted to see what he would give up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, freestater said: We got one more game to go and this could skew this wildly, but if Max Duggan is sitting there in the second round...that's a yes in my book. Still want a good vet competition around. But damn that kid has some guts. Plus he looks so damn much like Chaddy-cakes that I love him already lol Just Googled this guy. Holy sh*t you aren't kidding. He even has Chad's horrifically bad haircut. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: I explained what I would do in two separate posts after the OP. one was the 23rd post on page one, the other was #10 on page 2. I'm confused. In those posts, your advocating trading up to take a qb in the draft which would cost multiple 1st. Therefore, your saying you want a qb room of rookie, zach and a journeyman/white. Since you will have spent valuable draft assets trading up, you won't have anything to use to reinforce the oline in the near future. So explain to me how your plan is not trusting Lafleur to develop another rookie qb behind a bad oline when white gets hurt week 3? We all agree zach is just taking up space as the 3rd qb and they not carrying a 4th qb. Nor is any decent FA coming here to compete with a 1st rd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This team can’t develop a Qb. Just go get a veteran. I’m using the draft to fill needs at other positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 8 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: I'm confused. In those posts, your advocating trading up to take a qb in the draft which would cost multiple 1st. Therefore, your saying you want a qb room of rookie, zach and a journeyman/white. Since you will have spent valuable draft assets trading up, you won't have anything to use to reinforce the oline in the near future. So explain to me how your plan is not trusting Lafleur to develop another rookie qb behind a bad oline when white gets hurt week 3? We all agree zach is just taking up space as the 3rd qb and they not carrying a 4th qb. Nor is any decent FA coming here to compete with a 1st rd pick. You’re definitely confused, I’ll give you that. I know you think you’re scoring a ton of debate points with the two posts you’ve left for me, but I can only look at them and wonder how you can read what I said, and extrapolate it to what you have. I’m not going to try to respond to it. I wouldn’t know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 If Young or Stroud fell down to 10, I'd consider trading up, but any higher than that I expect would be too expensive. Douglas absolutely has to add 2-3 quality lineman next year if they expect a rookie QB to be able to survive and I don't think they will have the assets left to do that if they tried to trade into the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Sign Baker! Problems solved! If you want Douglas fired after another losing season as baker flames out yet again...yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Green Ghost said: The Bears aren’t going to go QB, I would not be so sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, Green Ghost said: What do you want to see him do? Cool. How would you solve it? Gee thanks for putting me on the hot seat LOL No to Carr. No to Jackson. Just feel he is a injury waiting to happen with his style of play. You can say the same about Jimmy G but JD needs to do something so I'd go that route. I'd still like to sign Mike White as the back up QB and let Zach sit until his contract runs out and then send him back to Utah. On a bus. With no air conditioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Sign Baker! Problems solved! Sign baker. sign darnold. Trade for the # 1. Resign Mike White. Zach can back them all up. Flacco retires and then you cut Streveler. Make him the scape goat for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Out of the qbs coming out this year, I like Levis the best. Guy is already used to playing with bad coaching and a sh*t offensive line, he'd be right at home with the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I would not be so sure of that. Care to make a $100 wager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, Maxman said: Sign baker. sign darnold. Trade for the # 1. Resign Mike White. Zach can back them all up. Flacco retires and then you cut Streveler. Make him the scape goat for this season. @Untouchable had my favorite post today in another thread about Zach. He said “I don’t ever want to hear about Zach Wilson, Mike White or Joe Flacco again.” At first I laughed because it was funny, but then I realized getting rid of all 3 would be the best thing that could happen to this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, Green Ghost said: @Untouchable had my favorite post today in another thread about Zach. He said “I don’t ever want to hear about Zach Wilson, Mike White or Joe Flacco again.” I think Mike White is gone. Zach will be the backup and a vet coming is coming to town. So we will probably hear his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: I think Mike White is gone. Zach will be the backup and a vet coming is coming to town. So we will probably hear his name. I think you’re right. I see it happening the same way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Sign Baker! Problems solved! And what problem would that solve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Care to make a $100 wager? I don't care enough. But if you think a team with the #1 pick is totally committed to a QB that has shown he can't really do the QB part, you are just fooling yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Just now, Green Ghost said: I think you’re right. I see it happening the same way. What vet QB do you want? What vet QB do you think they will actually get? i.e. Rodgers but end up with Brock Purdy's uncle that played in the NFL 12 years ago (I made that up lol) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I don't care enough. But if you think a team with the #1 pick is totally committed to a QB that has shown he can't really do the QB part, you are just fooling yourself. But yet you cared enough to randomly quote me about him? I think you just don’t like Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: I think you just don’t like Fields. I have no opinion on him really other than you can't say he is likely to be a FQB. If Chicago thinks they can get a "generational" QB at #1 they will take him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 17 minutes ago, Maxman said: What vet QB do you want? What vet QB do you think they will actually get? i.e. Rodgers but end up with Brock Purdy's uncle that played in the NFL 12 years ago (I made that up lol) In order, Carr, Baker, Minshew. Carr might cost too much though, I don’t see them signing Baker, and I don’t know if they consider Minshew a starter. of those three, Baker seems to make the most sense, proven starter, shouldn’t cost as much as Carr. I just hope it’s not Jimmy G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 @Maxman would you take a flyer on Jameis Winston? Nobody mentions him, and he could end up being the next Geno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I have no opinion on him really other than you can't say he is likely to be a FQB. If Chicago thinks they can get a "generational" QB at #1 they will take him You’re just blowing smoke Johnny. You don’t like Fields. Just say it, nobody will think less of you. After Darnold, nobody takes your QB takes seriously anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, DJF71 said: And what problem would that solve? The starting QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 31 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: @Maxman would you take a flyer on Jameis Winston? Nobody mentions him, and he could end up being the next Geno. 2019 kind of did it in for me with Jameis when he was with the Bucs. 30 INTs is rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 35 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: In order, Carr, Baker, Minshew. Carr might cost too much though, I don’t see them signing Baker, and I don’t know if they consider Minshew a starter. of those three, Baker seems to make the most sense, proven starter, shouldn’t cost as much as Carr. I just hope it’s not Jimmy G Minshew's stock has to have dropped after his starts this year. Small sample size but 3TD \ 3INT and under 60% completion with one of the best teams in football. Great backup, and that is probably where the Jets will view him. Don't think you can sell a Gardner \ Zach combo here next year. Carr as the first option Baker as the 2nd is probably close. Unless Aaron Rodgers is the one, the other two are the 2 and 3. I don't see Rodgers coming here to play for LaFleur though so you probably have to do something there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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