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33 minutes ago, Duckman said:

1) It's rare when a player has the hammer in terms of negotiating leverage.  Though I'm not thrilled that this had to be communicated publicly the day after the season ended, Q has all of the leverage on this and is deserving of a large contract.

2) I used to like Rich Cimini's work once upon a time but it seems like all he's interested in these days is stirring up trouble whenever he gets a chance.  I believe he had the initial question to Quinnen on this topic and is cranking the tweets on this subject.

So you’re upset with Cimini for doing his job, and QW speaking out about his didn’t thrill you.

I doubt you’re this delicate in your daily life, why are you that way with your football team?

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3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Player A: 12 sacks, 55 combined tackles, 12 TFL  (4 year period for sacks 27.5)

Player B: 12 sacks, 63 combined tackles, 11 TFL (4 year period for sacks 33.5)

Player A:  Pay this player what he wants!

Player B:  Pay this player what he wants!

Wilkerson and QW?

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It should be noted that extensions can and do happen mid season for many teams

the browns just re-upped Jack Conklin for example 

the Jets not paying Quinnen before the season or during the season is a sign they won't be paying him later

they don't really pay anyone homegrown. They'd rather piss it away on the Corey Davises of the world 

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10 minutes ago, bitonti said:

It should be noted that extensions can and do happen mid season for many teams

the browns just re-upped Jack Conklin for example 

the Jets not paying Quinnen before the season or during the season is a sign they won't be paying him later

they don't really pay anyone homegrown. They'd rather piss it away on the Corey Davises of the world 

Would you like to make a wager that they sign/extend him before the season starts?  

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3 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

Champions League Football GIF by UEFA

Oh yeah Joe Douglas is licking his chops to liquidate another Mac draft pick.
Surely the runner up for DPOY can fetch more than Jamal Adams.

that actually might be the play. we need to fix the offense. it is woefully bad. like 4th worst points scored in the league bad. williams is good, but a super expensive interior pass rusher might be a luxury for this team. he is worth A LOT!!!

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Just now, Dcat said:

Isnt 2023 year the 5th yr option? or is it year 4?

2023 upcoming is his 5th year option. They have picked it up last April, make him play for 12 mil and unless QW holds out he doesn't really have any recourse. I mean it sucks for QW but is he really going to hold out for the difference between 12 per and 21 per? He might. But 12 is still pretty good money 

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3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

hmmm tempting... why not? 100 to the charity of the winner's choice?  

I suspect they make him play out his 5th year option 

He's entering the 5th year option in '23.  He gets $9.5 MM salary.  I can see the Jets extending him with a nice signing bonus.  The cap hit would be less than the full 5th year option.   

Yeah, I'll make that bet.  Quinnen gets extended/signed before the start of the season probably for a cap hit less than the 5th year option.

 

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1 minute ago, bitonti said:

2023 upcoming is his 5th year option. They have picked it up last April, make him play for 12 mil and unless QW holds out he doesn't really have any recourse. I mean it sucks for QW but is he really going to hold out for the difference between 12 per and 21 per? He might. But 12 is still pretty good money 

the Jets can benefit by extending him with a nice signing bonus and end up with a lower cap hit and a stud on our DL for the next 4-5 years.  It's the smart thing to do.  (which means you likely win the bet)

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Quinnen‘s fifth year option is a very reasonable $12mm because he never made the Pro Bowl prior to this year.  It would have been much more had he done so.   

Quinnen is a tough one because his performance was lackluster prior to this season.  What do you do with that?

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2 hours ago, Warfish said:

You don't pay for past performance.

You pay fur future performance.

Will he earn it in 2023, 2024 and 2025 and beyond?

He’s young and in his prime so I’d hope so, but don’t have my crystal ball lol. Hopefully doesn’t bite us in the ass like it has many times in the past.

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2 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

You wouldn't take Fields for Q or even Stroud?  

I would. 

 

Yeah,after I left that quote I realized it could’ve been interpreted all kinds of ways. I actually found it intriguing.

I don’t think he’d want Fields though, if he did, he would have drafted him. Stroud might be intriguing though (he would be to me)

I don’t know how they do this, but we probably have to add another #1 and at least a 2, maybe more. I’d be  very interested though.

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Q is awesome and our defense isn't the nearly the same when he's not on the field.  He deserves every dollar that he gets paid.

I still remember how absolutely dominating he was in that 2nd Buffalo game.  This team has no luck, though, so of course he got hurt.  Would've loved to see what would've happened had he stayed healthy that day.  To me, it's one of the big "what if's" of the season. 

 

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7 hours ago, Warfish said:

Lol, that was fast.

Can't blame him really.  He has all the leverage right now, in a way he may never have again.

Whomever pays him will wonder if they're gonna get the 2022 QW (worth it) or the pre-2022 QW (not worth it).

Don’t know about him having ALL the leverage right now. He is under contract for next year and then can be franchised the next 1-2yrs after that, if jets want. He will have more leverage after next season because then the jets will have either sign him, tag him, or let him walk.

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With Sauce and DJ Reed roaming the backfield, the need for an overly dominant Dline lessens. Yes, it's great to have both a Dline that pressures the QB into making quick throws AND a lockdown secondary. Most teams feel fortunate to have just one of these. But we all saw how good Saleh's defense works when Quinnen was out, so ya, I'm in big time favor of paying the man. We'll have the same issues with Becton, Garrett, Sauce, and Breece.

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31 minutes ago, FootballLove said:

With Sauce and DJ Reed roaming the backfield, the need for an overly dominant Dline lessens. Yes, it's great to have both a Dline that pressures the QB into making quick throws AND a lockdown secondary. Most teams feel fortunate to have just one of these. But we all saw how good Saleh's defense works when Quinnen was out, so ya, I'm in big time favor of paying the man. We'll have the same issues with Becton, Garrett, Sauce, and Breece.

Issues being what? That they’re actually good and deserve to be paid?

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34 minutes ago, FootballLove said:

With Sauce and DJ Reed roaming the backfield, the need for an overly dominant Dline lessens. Yes, it's great to have both a Dline that pressures the QB into making quick throws AND a lockdown secondary. Most teams feel fortunate to have just one of these. But we all saw how good Saleh's defense works when Quinnen was out, so ya, I'm in big time favor of paying the man. We'll have the same issues with Becton, Garrett, Sauce, and Breece.

And Derek Carr.   (Ugh!)

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