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43 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

All of this.

You’d love this guy, Moggz first of all he’s built just like JD, (he even kinda looks like him) and he comes off as a regular guy.

Maybe it’s because we’re both diehard sports fans, but he always tells me stories about players and coaches I ask him about.
He’s not one to talk badly about them when he does, but it’s obvious the guy he respects above everyone is Ozzie Newsome.

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2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

You’d love this guy, Moggz first of all he’s built just like JD, (he even kinda looks like him) and he comes off as a regular guy.

Maybe it’s because we’re both diehard sports fans, but he always tells me stories about players and coaches I ask him about.
He’s not one to talk badly about them when he does, but it’s obvious the guy he respects above everyone is Ozzie Newsome.

Let us know when the wheels are in motion. We need any glimmer of hope here. 

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2 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Done do it. 
 

We won’t have sauce and garret and these guys on rookie contracts forever. Go try to win a Super Bowl in 23 and 24

This would be the best argument to roll the dice.

It does bother me that we hear the Jets are "first in line", though.  Maybe it's the fear of SOJ, but I have a bad feeling that we're viewed as the biggest sucker.

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1 hour ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

HARD.

PASS.

Think the receivers are crying now, wait and see.  Lamar has chased every talented out of town. 

I think Bateman and Henderson are better than what we have right now at receiver.  Add TE Andrews and he had plenty of weapons and they all got the ball.  Not sure where you are going with this.  When Guys leave, it is to get PAID, has nothing to to with Lamar.  

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Why would Baltimore let him go? 

And if they are happily letting him go from what is considered a smart organization why are the jets leaping in with two feet?

This is the biggest concern.  How many teams let go of FQBs that are like 25 years old?  How could that not be considered a red flag?

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6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

This would be the best argument to roll the dice.  It does bother me that we hear the Jets are "first in line".  Maybe it's the fear of SOJ, but I have a bad feeling that we're viewed as the biggest sucker.

? Don’t worry, we’re not.
None of us here are happy with how this year ended, and we all have our opinions on our GM and CS, but believe it or not, the people running the Jets are well respected within the league.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Why would Baltimore let him go? 

And if they are happily letting him go from what is considered a smart organization why are the jets leaping in with two feet?

Why is everyone here so sure it’s Baltimore that’s calling this shot? Has it ever occured to anyone that it might be the player who is unhappy?

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5 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Why is everyone here so sure it’s Baltimore that’s calling this shot? Has it ever occured to anyone that it might be the player who is unhappy?

Lamar wants out. That’s why I think he’s miking his PCL sprain. JD knows that another losing record next season may very well be his demise. Look for him to make a big splash.

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2 hours ago, Untouchable said:

I’m not totally against it. He’s probably the most electrifying player in the game right now at the most important position in team sports.

But it definitely comes with risk.

And with the amount of money and draft picks we’d have to dish out to make it happen, it could potentially dick us over for at least another half a decade if it doesn’t pan out.

It’s also going to be a classic case of sticking a square peg in a round hole if the Jets remain committed to this Shanahan offense.

Not to mention if you wanted Lamar Jackson why didn’t you just draft Justin Fields?  This same regime just choose a completely opposite approach at QB when given the choice of Wilson and Fields and yes a lot of us said it then and continue to say it now it was stupid Fields wasn’t  the pick there, while he was for 7 years leading up to the draft him and Lawrence were 1-2 since like Freshman year of HS.

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1 hour ago, ZachStepdad said:

Lamar Jackson to Miami I’m calling it now…. He get to play back home …. Good weather and with those WRs

Miami has no draft picks.  They lost their #1 for tampering, and I think are down another from a trade.  (Chubb?)

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His injuries are concerning and Baltimore cutting ties would be concerning. 

He's not a fit for this offense (assuming no change at OC) although I think his career longevity depends on developing as a pocket passer and less on his mobility. He needs to be with an OC who can take advantage of his mobility but limit the injury risk. LaFleur is not that guy. As things stand today, Jackson would be an expensive acquisition severely underutilized in this offense.

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3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Lamar gets injured a lot.

So does Jimmy G.  So does Mike White.  Carr doesn't but he kinda sucks.

Lamar Jackson gives us MVP-caliber upside at the QB position.  If we're gonna pin our hopes on one of 4 veteran QBs, Lamar is the top guy.  Damn the torpedoes.  

Of course the Jets should just listen to @jgb and I and go with Minshew and White and rack up Lombari's as a result, but ala, no one listens.  

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3 hours ago, carlito1171 said:

I'd imagine the scenario would have to play out where the Ravens don't reach an agreement on an extension, they try to tag him, and Lamar refuses to play under the franchise tag....opening the door for the Ravens to trade him

 

Look, I'm a Lamar fan....wouldn't have mind drafting him in 2018.....he's one of the most electrifying athletes ever to play the position...and I believe he's severely underrated as a passer......but I do have to take a step back and look at how 2 years in a row his injury cost the Ravens the playoffs in 2021, and the division in 2022, and why such a smart organization is so hesitant on paying him his worth when it seems like a no brainer to just give him the deal. He's young but with an injury history and his style of play, can't expect it to improve.....I love the IDEA of getting Lamar Jackson and finally having a franchise QB, but the idea may not match the reality of what you're signing up for........

Bingo 

 

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3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

You also have to wonder how his game will age. 

if the Ravens are hesitant to pay him, I think you have to proceed with caution 

I think these are fair critiques but I have to say, the Ravens FO decision making has not been great as of late -

  • all of their money is in the secondary, and it doesn't perform well
  • Using two first round picks on a slow SS and an undersized Center?
  • Cannot find a receiver for two decades

I'm not saying they're a "bad" franchise, I just think the tide is turning there - this isn't the Ozzie show from a decade ago when they were seemingly smarter than everyone else. 

The injury concerns are what really worries me about Lamar.

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32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So does Jimmy G.  So does Mike White.  Carr doesn't but he kinda sucks.

Lamar Jackson gives us MVP-caliber upside at the QB position.  If we're gonna pin our hopes on one of 4 veteran QBs, Lamar is the top guy.  Damn the torpedoes.  

Of course the Jets should just listen to @jgb and I and go with Minshew and White and rack up Lombari's as a result, but ala, no one listens.  

Carr doesn't suck. The Raiders suck.

I agree Lamar has the highest upside. He also is probably the biggest injury risk. I'd be excited if we got him but waiting for that shoe to drop. Better come with Greg Roman too.

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3 hours ago, carlito1171 said:

I'd imagine the scenario would have to play out where the Ravens don't reach an agreement on an extension, they try to tag him, and Lamar refuses to play under the franchise tag....opening the door for the Ravens to trade him

 

Look, I'm a Lamar fan....wouldn't have mind drafting him in 2018.....he's one of the most electrifying athletes ever to play the position...and I believe he's severely underrated as a passer......but I do have to take a step back and look at how 2 years in a row his injury cost the Ravens the playoffs in 2021, and the division in 2022, and why such a smart organization is so hesitant on paying him his worth when it seems like a no brainer to just give him the deal. He's young but with an injury history and his style of play, can't expect it to improve.....I love the IDEA of getting Lamar Jackson and finally having a franchise QB, but the idea may not match the reality of what you're signing up for........

it won't be what you are signing up for. lamar jackson isn't the style of qb you want to get 6 years into his career and after multiple injuries.

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2 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

A guy a play golf with at my club knows Douglas very well. He retired from the Ravens FO after over 20 years there, and bought a sports bar here at the beach.

He knows I’m a Jet fan, and he’s been telling me for a year now both Lamar and JD are tight, and this could become a thing.

BTW he loves JD. He laughs when I complain about him. He always tells me let him do work, the man knows his sh*t.

 

If JD loves LJ, why did he pass on Fields? 

They're almost the same player except Fields is the better passer with, imo a higher ceiling.

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4 hours ago, Beerfish said:

if he becomes available is a river boat fantasy.  Lets do one of these threads for Patrick Mahomes and josh Allen as well. (if they become available)

Baltimore is almost totally reliant on him to make them a winning team.  Any and all of this is just posturing.

Negotiations have been testy at best.  Who knows.  What we do know is it’s not anywhere close to a Mahomes-KC or Allen-Bills like relationship.  
Is it a long shot?  Don’t know but it’s not a no way ever like story

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46 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

If JD loves LJ, why did he pass on Fields? 

They're almost the same player except Fields is the better passer with, imo a higher ceiling.

JD’s HC wanted to run a Shanahan offense, and I believe that they did not think Fields was a fit.

But after two years JD and Saleh are on the hot seat and realize that there is a reason they call it the Shanahan offense-you need a Shanahan to run it.   The Jets are not going to be able to implement it well enough before next season and they all get fired, and they they hired to implement it (MLF) failed at it.

So maybe MLF, or someone else they can hire, can figure out a way to run an offense with Lamar Jackson.  Maybe that makes the WRs better and happier.  That means JD and Saleh could keep their jobs.  Watch them overpay for Lamar Jackson, both to Lamar and the Ravens. 

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56 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

 

If JD loves LJ, why did he pass on Fields? 

They're almost the same player except Fields is the better passer with, imo a higher ceiling.

While a better passer coming out, Fields was nowhere near the runner that LJ was. 

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10 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

Yep - this is assuming the Lamar can play the SF offense - MLF doesn't adjust the offense for the QB.

And, with all of the coaching issues, why would Lamar come here?

The Jets would basically create a new offense for LJ.

There would not be coaching issues, because there would be a new coach and less coaching.  Street ball. 

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16 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Just feels like a disaster waiting to happen. He's a great player, but the Ravens being hesitant to pay him scares me. He's hurt all the time. If he was a free agent I'd say go for it. But he'll get tagged and the Jets will have to trade for him.

I’d rather sign Tom Brady or Derek Carr and keep the three first round picks but anything so I never have to see Zach Wilson in a regular season game again

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