Popular Post Beerfish Posted January 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2023 2020 30th avg, 31st net average 2021 22nd average 20th net average 2022 17th average, 28th net average. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Ha! Improvement! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Beerfish said: 2020 30th avg, 31st net average 2021 22nd average 20th net average 2022 17th average, 28th net average. Now that JD has finally figured out place kicker, hopefully he can clean up this disaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 We need the kid from Rutgers - Korsak , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I have one last job for Mann before we let him go: Punt Mike LaFleur as far away from Florham Park as you can. Shank him to the next closest football field — I don’t care. Doesn’t matter if it takes 1000 punts, just get it done and then go see Joe Douglas in his office. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Ironically Mann was one of like 6 players who played well yesterday lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Thomas Morstead was better than Mann. They should have just stuck with him. Mann has to go, and the next punter should be a lefty. Makes it more difficult to catch for some reason. Belichick has talked about this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 We got punter at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Thomas Morstead was better than Mann. They should have just stuck with him. Mann has to go, and the next punter should be a lefty. Makes it more difficult to catch for some reason. Belichick has talked about this. only 11% of people are left-handed. That means it's likely only 3 or 4 teams a year will have lefty punters. Since their punts are going to be different due to foot shape, returners aren't going to be as used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Dave Jennings could kick better now then our schanker BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Hex said: only 11% of people are left-handed. That means it's likely only 3 or 4 teams a year will have lefty punters. Since their punts are going to be different due to foot shape, returners aren't going to be as used to it. Maybe that’s it. IDK. But Belichick seems to think there’s something inherently weird about how the ball comes off a lefty’s foot that makes it difficult to reel in. Jets need all the help they can get. Can’t remember the last time they recovered a muffed punt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Beerfish said: 2020 30th avg, 31st net average 2021 22nd average 20th net average 2022 17th average, 28th net average. The net average is a product of the coverage team in general. The 17th average is the punter product. Punter is the least of our worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: I have one last job for Mann before we let him go: Punt Mike LaFleur as far away from Florham Park as you can. Shank him to the next closest football field — I don’t care. Doesn’t matter if it takes 1000 punts, just get it done and then go see Joe Douglas in his office. He’s good at aiming the sidelines so we have a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Maybe that’s it. IDK. But Belichick seems to think there’s something inherently weird about how the ball comes off a lefty’s foot that makes it difficult to reel in. Jets need all the help they can get. Can’t remember the last time they recovered a muffed punt. Agreed. It would be nice if this new punter could tackle too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: The net average is a product of the coverage team in general. The 17th average is the punter product. Punter is the least of our worries. So having three years where his absolute best result is lower than league average is acceptable when there are punters all over the place? And no net average is not just due to coverage if a punter cannot get hang time on his kicks, or cannot positionally punt his net average will be bad as well. We had to game lost in big part due to kick return tds, this year. He is a terrible punter, so yeah we should upgrade if this team has a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Jet2020 said: The net average is a product of the coverage team in general. The 17th average is the punter product. Punter is the least of our worries. And that’s influenced by field position. Punt from the 50 and a 35 yard punt dropped inside the 15 and you’re a pro bowl P. Westhoff always said averages were a useless way to rate P’s. Said he compared what they averaged on a Sunday vs the other P. Weather plays into it too often. He said if his punter won that day that’s all that counts, not how someone did on some other field 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonman 88 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 finally a topic started that makes sense!!! we can only pray that we dont have to look at this flop anymore.shouldnt be on an nfl roster period!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 NEVER draft a punter, you can always sign a league average vet or an undrafted college FA. Absolutely, serious competition should be brought in for Mann. He is not consistent and cost us 2 games where his horrible punts led to return TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, Barkus said: NEVER draft a punter, you can always sign a league average vet or an undrafted college FA. Absolutely, serious competition should be brought in for Mann. He is not consistent and cost us 2 games where his horrible punts led to return TDs. No harm in doing so in the 7th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, JetPotato said: No harm in doing so in the 7th round we don't have a 7th round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: we don't have a 7th round pick The 8th round the. Wait…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Douglas' record with kickers/punters really is quite something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Beerfish said: So having three years where his absolute best result is lower than league average is acceptable when there are punters all over the place? And no net average is not just due to coverage if a punter cannot get hang time on his kicks, or cannot positionally punt his net average will be bad as well. We had to game lost in big part due to kick return tds, this year. He is a terrible punter, so yeah we should upgrade if this team has a brain. Like I said, it’s a product of the coverage team in general. Sometimes you’ll get bad hang time but the coverage team still makes up for it. Giving up TDs on a punt is almost never on the punter even if there’s little hang time. You still have 11 guys stopping 1. Bad angles by the coverage, missed tackles is what causes TDs, not bad hang time. If that was the case, you’d never see TDs on kickoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Mann this dude cost us Trevor Lawrence due to making a tackle on a punt retun. Cut his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Braedan Mann is proof positive that if you are a nice person, pleasant to have around and try hard, but only get average to below average results with your work, you can keep your job far longer than you deserve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Hex said: Agreed. It would be nice if this new punter could tackle too * Except when the # 1 pick is on the line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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