Popular Post Sonny Werblin Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Seriously, WTF happened? The easy answer is that once he cashed in on the $12.8 million signing bonus he became an unmotivated sloth. But, the guy was a 7 year veteran before coming to the Jets. He had already made over $20 million playing football which includes a $4.4 million rookie deal signing bonus and a $5 million bonus before his 4th season. I know $12.8 million is obviously the most he had ever laid his hands on at one time, but is that really the sole reason? I've scoured the interwebz and could find no mention of an injury or even personal problems (because I think we all tend to ignore how a player's personal life can effect their play). IS he getting divorced, has custody issues, or does he have an ill relative? If it IS the cash, isn't he concerned about losing the $13 million in salary and roster bonus he is slated to earn in 2023? Because that is off the table if the Jets cut him. Seriously, none of this makes any sense. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 That was a huge disappointment. I was 100% on board with the signing, I can not think of any way to fault JD on that one. He knew the system, was only 30, it should have worked. He just, didn't show up. At all. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 CUT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Playing next to Trent Williams and having great coaching helps. 16 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I don't know how much to expect from a guard when we're playing tackle carousel all season long. He did play every game. Give him that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 He let one sack up all season and had 1 penalty called on him and the left side of the offensive line looked like the best in the NFL when Breece was healthy. The Jets have much bigger problems on the offensive line than Laken Tomlinson. 9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Not sure what to make of it. He was great in SF and had some pretty brutal games here. The good news is that if the staff decides it's not gonna work out here, we can pretty much cut him loose with a minimal cap hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetPotato Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Every single time a relatively young, solid performing offensive lineman hits the open market, with zero interest shown from his previous team, it should be a red flag. The 49ers made no attempt to bring him back. None. There was a reason. DRAFT O-LINE. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 reasons 1 he played next to trent williams the best LT in football (and the only madden 99 rated lineman) 2 he was never that good of an athlete to begin with 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Was a weird season. Stunk early, started to look okay mid-season, fell off a cliff and stunk late. I think age and playing next to a rotation of JAGs at LT (instead of Trent Williams) was probably a factor. Probably the most disappointing FA signing of the Douglas era. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Every single time a relatively young, solid performing offensive lineman hits the open market, with zero interest shown from his previous team, it should be a red flag. The 49ers made no attempt to bring him back. None. There was a reason. DRAFT O-LINE. More true for tackles than guards but I agree. Teams don’t let young good players at premium positions ever get away unless there are issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FactsOnly Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 2 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 He was awful this year. Move him to the right side and put AVT back at left guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Idk what you're talking about, the guys great! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 The New York Jets are Boca Raton Florida to NFL players, come here for your one nice last huge pay day and then retire. Just say the right things and be a 'team guy' and you will totally hoodwink whosoever is in charge of this team that you are good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Is he cuttable? I've seen different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: Is he cuttable? I've seen different things. Per Overthecap: NO 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 22 minutes ago, bitonti said: 2 reasons 1 he played next to trent williams the best LT in football (and the only madden 99 rated lineman) 2 he was never that good of an athlete to begin with agreed he sucked to begin with...go back and watch his game with 49ers and Baltimore...you will see the player we know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Release Laken and move AVT back to LG. Resign Herbig. OLine could look like: LT:Brown/Rookie LG: AVT C McGovern RG Herbig RT: Becton/Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Release Laken and move AVT back to LG. Resign Herbig. OLine could look like: LT:Brown/Rookie LG: AVT C McGovern RG Herbig RT: Becton/Mitchell Yes to your LT. LG Daulton Risner. Yes to McGovern AVT RG. Orlando Brown at RT. My dream scenario. AVT at LG was very good. At RG he was flawless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Release Laken and move AVT back to LG. Resign Herbig. OLine could look like: LT:Brown/Rookie LG: AVT C McGovern RG Herbig RT: Becton/Mitchell Boy what a vast improvement over this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Release Laken and move AVT back to LG. Resign Herbig. OLine could look like: LT:Brown/Rookie LG: AVT C McGovern RG Herbig RT: Becton/Mitchell LT: Becton LG: C : RG: RT: AVT/Mitchell Brown gonna get surgery not sure he be ready for TC plus he may just retire for all we know McGovern - wait and see if they resign him Herbig - I like but he was hot and cold and injured a lot - not sure he ready for prim time - def sh be on team though Laken probably be LG cause I doubt they cut bait even though they should Mitchell - didnt look ready despite blood clots - maybe he gets better - good problem to have as he is good swing. for the rest we see how FA and draft play out. Obviously I am banking on Becton here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 15 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: Per Overthecap: NO 5th highest cap hit for a guard in 2023. He better step it up next year, because as you point out, we are likely stuck with him for one more season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Sometimes players just see a rapid decline in their physical abilities. He's over 30. It happens. The same thing happened to Mangold. One year he's a Pro Bowl player and within two years he's out of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I believe Nania is wrong saying we can cut Laken. OTC says we basically cannot due to the cap hit. The theory is perhaps he fell off because he didn't have an all-world LT next to him like he did in SF but it doesn't all add up. I absolutely hate this guy after how awful he was this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I hated the signing because it made AVT have to move. Stupid signing and that he sucked was just the cherry on top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 He's not going anywhere next year, dead money if cut is too prohibitive. Big decisions to make on McGovern and Herbig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 55 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: Per Overthecap: NO Check what it says for POST June 1 cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 Just a few days ago, Sportrac had Tomlinson's contract structured as an easy 2023 post June 1 cut But they have changed it from a $4.6 million cap hit for a post 6/1 release to $14 million. So, it looks like Laken will be a Jet in 2023. I certainly hope he figures it out. But, him mailing it on knowing that he was eminently uncuttable for 2023 certainly makes more sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhartonJet Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, choon328 said: He let one sack up all season and had 1 penalty called on him and the left side of the offensive line looked like the best in the NFL when Breece was healthy. The Jets have much bigger problems on the offensive line than Laken Tomlinson. Tomlinson was beaten badly all over the field in every game. Gave up instant pressures leading to TFLs and throw aways. He was horrific this year 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: He was awful this year. Move him to the right side and put AVT back at left guard. I would leave AVT at RT. Best way to extract value from that trade-up. Easier to find a serviceable to good OG in FA or draft than it is to find an OT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, FactsOnly said: I admit I laughed. But interesting how MLF is taking all the virtual bullets while the position coach Benton seems to get a free pass from everybody, media included. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, genot said: Yes to your LT. LG Daulton Risner. Yes to McGovern AVT RG. Orlando Brown at RT. My dream scenario. AVT at LG was very good. At RG he was flawless. Orlando punched his way out of Baltimore because he wanted to be a LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodcharlie Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 It is not a mystery and it is not a surprise. The guy has always been an average to below average guard. I almost blew a freakin' stack when Joe Douglas gave him that life-changing contract. Good for the Tomlinson family's future, hopefully he manages that insane gift properly, but WTF is wrong with this general manager? He needs to fix his evaluation of the OL position and in professional scouting in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 here's a crazy idea: joe douglas is not good at assembling a football team CJ usomah was also terrible 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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