SayNoToDMC Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Our best QB right now is probably Chris Streveler. I don't think we need another WR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 32 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: That’s a lot of pressure on the draft Not just the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 DHop for a 3rd? Sign me up.....cut Davis and Berrios to make it happen Would also kill this Moore at the X receiver experiment MLF is so hellbent on running........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, August said: The bad thing about the off-season is every rumored player on the trade block or potential free agent will get a thread made about them sigh. Do you think you'll make it through? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 42 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Hard pass Expensive, over the hill and physically breaking down Save the money for Derek Carr GW is your chain mover What the Jets really need is a lid-lifting deep threat to open up the running game Hopkins can still play but the injuries and wear and tear have caught up to him. Plus we need to save cap room for a qb The top 2 WRs in the draft Johnston and Addison are as can’t miss as it gets I’d rather just draft one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Cutting Davis & Berrios would save over 15mm in 2023 cap. Sounds ripe. I'd like to request we cut Berrios twice just to convey how much of a disappointment he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Hopkins is light years better than Corey Davis and has always produced whether the qb is DeSean, Davis Mills, Murray, or Colt Mccoy. Faaak yeah I'd bring him in. Aaron Rodgers, Garret Wilson, Hopkins, Breece, and we are instant SB contenders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Trade a 3 for Hopkins, sign Derek Carr, draft Michael Mayer at 13, win the AFC East Remember when the Raiders were gonna win a SB after pairing Adams with Carr? @Raideraholic That said, not sure how anyone could say no to bringing in Hopkins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, GreenFish said: For a 3rd, hell yeah. 1. Wilson 2. DHop 3. Moore 4. profit Breece Lamar, Rogers, Carr, or Jimmy G Wilson … Moore……………Hopkins uh yes. All day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Remember when the Raiders were gonna win a SB after pairing Adams with Carr? @Raideraholic That said, not sure how anyone could say no to bringing in Hopkins. It’s quite easy. Hopkins is expensive, injury prone, we need the cap space to sign a QB, and Quentin Johnston will be available when we pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 25 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Do you think you'll make it through? I hope so. I can’t wait for the Allen Lazard thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, August said: We’re not a Hopkins away from being a contender. 2 hours ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: No one is saying he is by himself. 1 hour ago, August said: I never said anyone said that lol what is this? 1 hour ago, August said: It means we should focus on building with young players. We already have quite a few young, talented players, and will continue to add more. Are we never supposed to add quality veteran players? I don't get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Remember when the Raiders were gonna win a SB after pairing Adams with Carr? @Raideraholic That said, not sure how anyone could say no to bringing in Hopkins. Renfrow, Adams, Waller and Jacobs on paper was supposed to be a threat in the west. See how that worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol what is this? We already have quite a few young, talented players, and will continue to add more. Are we never supposed to add quality veteran players? I don't get it. Receiver is not a problem for this team. A QB to get them the ball is a greater need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, August said: I hope so. I can’t wait for the Allen Lazard thread. Not sure you're aware but this forum comes with a cool feature where you don't have to click the threads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, August said: Renfrow, Adams, Waller and Jacobs on paper was supposed to be a threat in the west. See how that worked out. McDaniels happened 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, August said: Receiver is not a problem for this team. A QB to get them the ball is a greater need. We will need a receiver because Davis is going to be cut. Just think there are better options than Hopkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 41 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: Our best QB right now is probably Chris Streveler. I don't think we need another WR If you can't find an elite QB, the next best thing might be to load up on elite receiving talent and pair them with a decent QB, no? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, August said: Receiver is not a problem for this team. A QB to get them the ball is a greater need. Aaaand......what's stopping us from getting Hopkins AND re-shaping the QB room? Are you operating under the belief that the offseason ends once Hopkins is acquired? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I prefer Mike Evans. Cheaper with a few years left on a team-friendly contract and younger. I also think he's the perfect running partner for G. Wilson. Get it done, Tanny! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: It’s quite easy. Hopkins is expensive, injury prone, we need the cap space to sign a QB, and Quentin Johnston will be available when we pick @Barry McCockinner laid out in the OP from the jump why Hopkins' cap # wouldn't be prohibitive of, well, anything the team wants to do. What is happening in this thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Barry laid out in the OP why Hopkins' cap # wouldn't be prohibitive of, well, anything the team wants to do. What is happening in this thread? We have about $12-15 mil in cap room depending on the cap increase. Carr or Brady will want in the neighborhood of $20-25 million per year We can’t afford Hopkins right now with zero viable QBs on the roster. You guys are laughably delusional if you think adding Hopkins fixes Zach. We could have prime Calvin Johnson and Jerry Rice here and Zach would still suck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Aaaand......what's stopping us from getting Hopkins AND re-shaping the QB room? Are you operating under the belief that the offseason ends once Hopkins is acquired? Receiver is not a need it would be a luxury at this point. If we were a contender that would be one thing. Our biggest need is QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Rich Thornburgh said: We have about $12-15 mil in cap room depending on the cap increase. Carr or Brady will want in the neighborhood of $20-25 million per year We can’t afford Hopkins right now with zero viable QBs on the roster. You guys are laughably delusional if you think adding Hopkins fixes Zach. We could have prime Calvin Johnson and Jerry Rice here and Zach would still suck Cap is a lot less rigid than it seems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Those saying we don't need any more WRs: Uh, yeah we do. Moore is going to operate almost entirely in the slot. Corey Davis and Berrios are strong candidates to be let go. We need another receiver on the outside. No, we don't need a high-end, pricey guy across from Garrett Wilson. But it sure would be fun, no? Why bring in some mid-tier guy who is barely better than Corey Davis if Hopkins is there for the taking? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: We have about $12-15 mil in cap room depending on the cap increase. Carr or Brady will want in the neighborhood of $20-25 million per year We can’t afford Hopkins right now with zero viable QBs on the roster. You guys are laughably delusional if you think adding Hopkins fixes Zach. We could have prime Calvin Johnson and Jerry Rice here and Zach would still suck Dude, the cap is barely even real. Teams pay QBs and WRs big money all the time and still have money left over to make other improvements. And Douglas, for all his faults, has been very good at signing players onto team-friendly deals that are easy to get out of or restructure. Lots of cap room can be freed up through a bit of creativity. Come on with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: We will need a receiver because Davis is going to be cut. Just think there are better options than Hopkins I’d bring him back if we can restructure his deal. If we cut him then yeah it’s a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, August said: Receiver is not a need it would be a luxury at this point. If we were a contender that would be one thing. Our biggest need is QB. We desperately need a possession receiver/RZ weapon. Could be a TE or a WR. But he is not currently on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, jgb said: Cap is a lot less rigid than it seems How? You can make cuts, restructure players and stretch out bonuses based on contract length. Fact remains we do not have a qb on the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, jgb said: We desperately need a possession receiver/RZ weapon. Could be a TE or a WR. But he is not currently on the roster. Conklin, CJ, Wilson, Davis and Moore is not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If you can't find an elite QB, the next best thing might be to load up on elite receiving talent and pair them with a decent QB, no? I think we have very good WR talent at the moment. Relatively cheap also. We could cut Davis to save 10 I think. So Hopkins at 10 more would be a huge upgrade. I looked recently and we're 15 million under next year. I just don't know where the money is for a veteran QB also, when Q Williams should get the biggest deal in Jets history. That said I don't understand the cap BS at all. After last year and Saints being like 60 million over and somehow adding more people it all seems made up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, August said: I’d bring him back if we can restructure his deal. If we cut him then yeah it’s a need. Davis sucks. Draft Johnston or Addison. I’m telling you these guys are can’t miss and will be dynamite opposite Garrett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, August said: Receiver is not a need it would be a luxury at this point. If we were a contender that would be one thing. Our biggest need is QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Rich Thornburgh said: How? You can make cuts, restructure players and stretch out bonuses based on contract length. Fact remains we do not have a qb on the roster You just answered it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: The "we must have X before we bother with Y" approach leads to a long wait for entertaining football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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