Lafleur has NOT been fired!! (merged title references unsubstantiated claim. please refrain from hilarious parody threads)

[undertow]

Just now, section314 said:

Normally, the OC and HC make the decision and the OC tells the player.

[hotrodcharlie]

12 minutes ago, undertow said:

Why would a random media guy in Houston who's never broken a story before have inside info that the NY Jets are firing their OC?

He used to work for the Baltimore Sun which was connected to Joe Douglas

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, Augustiniak said:

So if MLF doesn’t have a good qb, good offensive line and breece hall he can’t score any touchdowns?  

The Giants scored a couple of TDs with their backups w18.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Bugg said:

So Todd Monken, off directing a college offense to a totally dominant effort in the championship, is gonna sign up for Saleh's one year swan song. And he gets to work with the QB prodigy Zach Wilson. Yeah, not happening. 

Yeah Monken isn’t coming back to the NFL if it’s not a HC role. Big college HCs get paid a mint and are local royalty.

[Bugg]

37 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

If the Jets did the smart thing (and they rarely do) then whoever this Senior Offensive Assistant is....should decide who the offensive staff is top to bottom, and ultimately determine whether MLF stays or goes.

We keep pretending some wonderful coach is going to come up with some fantastic plan to make Zach Wilson even an adequate NFL starter.

It's not happening. 

It's totally f___ed.

Jets need to cut bait and sign a vet QB. Everything else is unimportant. 

[SickJetFan]

10 minutes ago, Bugg said:

Does the "Senior Assistant" break into the headset mid play call and overrule the OC? WTF does that even mean? 

exactly. Senior Assistant gives advice.

[Biggs]

41 minutes ago, football guy said:

Last I heard he was drawing up a plan identifying the reasons why they were so bad and how to fix it, which would be presented to Saleh and Douglas among others. I think there's a chance they don't like what they hear and he gets fired anyway, but waiting for more clarity (I texted these 3 tweets and asked for clarity lol)

I don't think they want to make a move without a clear path forward though. Like, I don't think its a situation where they would say "we're opening up our OC search"... its entirely possible they want to see what happens with Mike McDaniel or get another senior-level staff hire completed before deciding MLF's ultimate fate. Should know more soon 

Mike McDaniels O looked awful when it was run by a below average QB.  Not sure that's an upgrade at all.  

[football guy]

11 minutes ago, Bugg said:

Does the "Senior Assistant" break into the headset mid play call and overrule the OC? WTF does that even mean? 

Whoever the senior advisor/assistant winds up being will do more of the background work. Don't think they would even entertain playcalling

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, Bugg said:

So Todd Monken, off directing a college offense to a totally dominant effort in the championship, is gonna sign up for Saleh's one year swan song. And he gets to work with the QB prodigy Zach Wilson. Yeah, not happening. 

Yeah I mean unless Kubiak commits to becoming the OC, him in any sort of assistant to the OC role, that’s a BS part time position to satisfy people.

[playtowinthegame]

9 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I can’t imagine who would want to come here to be OC if we do indeed fire LaFleur. 
Might as well head to the woods and start looking for Jeremy Bates.

Opie gets fired, and you think nobody would want to come here. 

[Larz]

24 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

That's fine, and fair. I could take or leave LaFleur like I said in my original post. But the biggest issue was the QB in my opinion. The offense looked better when Mike White was playing QB. I think that says a lot about what the number 1 issue.

I agree with that. It’s just so jetsy that the offense had become so bad that completing a pass was like “wow did you see that ?” 

 

[Claymation]

14 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Yeah, Mike White struggled to put the team in the endzone against the Vikings after carving up the Bears. They then only scored one TD in Buffalo against one of the best teams in the NFL in bad weather, and he got hurt in that game. But they moved the ball so much better when he was playing QB. The fact that we even have to debate the number 2 overall pick up against a 5th rounder taken by the Cowboys in 2018 says a lot.

Nobody is defending MLF. At least i'm not.

I am not defending Zach, I am illustrating that MiLF is not a good OC. You think the problem is squarely on Zach, and it's not. What I wrote is a Jets offensive thing, not a Zach thing. This offense sucks, everybody in the free world knows it. 

[#27TheDominator]

Deliberating sounds like not yet.

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, football guy said:

Whoever the senior advisor/assistant winds up being will do more of the background work. Don't think they would even entertain playcalling

Then that’s a bullsh*t position. Kubiak on the staff working under Lefleur would be an obvious joke. He’s been a HC and won Super Bowls as an OC. Him coming on to be a part time babysitter isn’t fooling anyone.

[ScarletKnight89]

Just now, Larz said:

I agree with that. It’s just so jetsy that the offense had become so bad that completing a pass was like “wow did you see that ?” 

 

Absolutely. Mike White did nothing special for the most part except make the routine plays and move the ball. It's a shame that we are impressed by that lol. That's how bad the offense has been around here like you said. 

[hotrodcharlie]

10 minutes ago, Bugg said:

So Todd Monken, off directing a college offense to a totally dominant effort in the championship, is gonna sign up for Saleh's one year swan song. And he gets to work with the QB prodigy Zach Wilson. Yeah, not happening. 

Probably not but one silver lining is that he would know the HC is on the hot seat. So he could see it as an opportunity to do well and step into the big boy spot when Saleh is fired.

Especially if he is handpicked by the GM/Owners box to be offensive coordinator, he would be connected above Saleh at the outset

[carlito1171]

Why do ppl still think QB is the only issue with Lafleur? 

[Mogglez]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Then that’s a bullsh*t position. Kubiak on the staff working under Lefleur would be an obvious joke. He’s been a HC and won Super Bowls as an OC. Him coming on to be a part time babysitter isn’t fooling anyone.

Kubiak has retired twice due to health concerns.  His days as a play caller and head coach are over.

[Bruce Harper]

1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said:

Wow wtf is going on 

Hughes was comically off with his "sources," pre-draft.  Let's see what really happened.

[SickJetFan]

remember the good ol days when MLF would run those back yard trick plays last season...good times.

[hotrodcharlie]

Just now, Mogglez said:

Kubiak has retired twice due to health concerns.  His days as a play caller and head coach are over.

Kubiak would be such a s#itty pick

as if the league hasnt already figured out his 1990s offense. That's a desperation move that I hope they dont do

[Trotter]

to me if there is that much discussion on who/what to put around the guy to help him be successful simply means he is not the right guy.  

[Mogglez]

Just now, hotrodcharlie said:

Kubiak would be such a s#itty pick

as if the league hasnt already figured out his 1990s offense. That's a desperation move that I hope they dont do

Could not disagree with this take more.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Then that’s a bullsh*t position. Kubiak on the staff working under Lefleur would be an obvious joke. He’s been a HC and won Super Bowls as an OC. Him coming on to be a part time babysitter isn’t fooling anyone.

I mean, that's what senior assistant/advisors do.....they don't coach or call plays on game day lol

[ScarletKnight89]

6 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I am not defending Zach, I am illustrating that MiLF is not a good OC. You think the problem is squarely on Zach, and it's not. What I wrote is a Jets offensive thing, not a Zach thing. This offense sucks, everybody in the free world knows it. 

I think the play of Zach Wilson is the number 1 issue. Not the only issue. I'm totally fine with the Jets firing LaFleur and trying things with another OC. I could take him or leave him like I said in my original post. I don't have much of an issue with that at all. Maybe Zach will improve or the next QB they sign in FA will play well. I'll be rooting for either to happen. But I just think to be fair to MLF, we have to be honest about the fact that Zach was really bad and the offense didn't look nearly as bad when pretty much anyone else was under center. That's all. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Zachtomims47 said:

I mean, that's what senior assistant/advisors do.....they don't coach or call plays on game day lol

Why would you bring in Kubiak to not call plays? Unless you think Lefleur is a better OC?

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Him coming on to be a part time babysitter isn’t fooling anyone.

I wouldn’t say “anyone.” 
 

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, hotrodcharlie said:

Kubiak would be such a s#itty pick

as if the league hasnt already figured out his 1990s offense. That's a desperation move that I hope they dont do

He’s fine if he’s the OC. Him in some background collect a paycheck position is an obvious joke of a move.

[Matt39]

Just now, T0mShane said:

I wouldn’t say “anyone.” 
 

Haha it’s just optics for Woody.

[Jet Blast]

9 minutes ago, football guy said:

Whoever the senior advisor/assistant winds up being will do more of the background work. Don't think they would even entertain playcalling

That's all well and good but playcalling has been one of Lefleur's major shortcomings.

[Darnold615]

33 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Becton, lmfao:

FWIW, this would be a huge reason for him being let go, and not just demoted.  There are more players who would be liking this tweet if they were lacking self-awareness like Becton.

How often has Becton even played for him....

[SickJetFan]

pretty sure we will know by 3

 

 

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Why would you bring in Kubiak to not call plays? Unless you think Lefleur is a better OC?

....to be a Senior Assistant. Like most of these older coaches do with a lot of teams. The man's not going to be an OC.

[Bruce Harper]

46 minutes ago, JTJet said:

All this thread did for me was confirm that there are clowns running the show. 

JD and Saleh cant even fire OR retain someone correctly. Jesus. 

Plenty of things to blame them for but you can't really blame JD/Saleh for some Schefter wannabe making something up.

[Matt39]

Just now, Zachtomims47 said:

....to be a Senior Assistant. Like most of these older coaches do with a lot of teams. The man's not going to be an OC.

Who are the current babysitting senior assistants on staffs