JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: So Flacco Sucked Wilson Sucked and the offense under MW averaged around 400 YPG and somehow this is on Mike LeFleur. This has Jets written all over it. and Mike White sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Has anyone from the Jets actually addressed this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: They can. He sucks, but MLF def didn’t help. Zack got worse. Good riddance to both, I hope. Zach Wilson is unteachable and I'm 100% sure of that. You can teach him mechanics all day long in a red Jersey but when you play with the fear he plays with in regular season games and refuse to step up in the pocket and make tough throws and generally let the fear of the pocket destroy your mechanics you will never Improve. The players know this and the coaches know this and it created a big problem with the team this year. For a GM to keep pushing that I would send him packing for that one thing alone. BUT the reality is we don't know who is really saying what, They are keeping it in house as best they can. So rather than speculate we have no choice but to wait this crap out. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, JETS SB said: and Mike White sucked @Smashmouth this post has been deleted. Personal attacks? Not here, don't do that here. You know better. Edited January 12, 2023 by Maxman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Zach Wilson is unteachable and I'm 100% sure of that. You can teach him mechanics all day long in a red Jersey but when you play with the fear he plays with in regular season games and refuse to step up in the pocket and make tough throws and generally let the fear of the pocket destroy your mechanics you will never Improve. The players know this and the coaches know this and it created a big problem with the team this year. For a GM to keep pushing that I would send him packing for that one thing alone. BUT the reality is we don't know who is really saying what, They are keeping it in house as best they can. So rather than speculate we have no choice but to wait this crap out. True, but nobody else on offense grew. Many players went unused. Game plans sucked. Play calls predictable. So, thru both suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Stupid move. ?♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: True, but nobody else on offense grew. Many players went unused. Game plans sucked. Play calls predictable. So, thru both suck. I know you saw us putting up major yardage with Mike White at QB the only problem there was players droping game winning TD's in the red zone and players fumbling on important drives . I'm not sure that's on LeFleur because he only had a few games to actually coach the guy and figure out how to get that offense clicking in the red zone ... sometimes that takes time just like it takes an OL to get in sync. I think our timing this year was just terrible and when you sustain the devastating injuries we dealt with i have a hard time blaming the OC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: I know you saw us putting up major yardage with Mike White at QB the only problem there was players droping game winning TD's in the red zone and players fumbling on important drives . I'm not sure that's on LeFleur because he only had a few games to actually coach the guy and figure out how to get that offense clicking in the red zone ... sometimes that takes time just like it takes an OL to get in sync. I think our timing this year was just terrible and when you sustain the devastating injuries we dealt with i have a hard time blaming the OC. I’m aware of the ways in which we had success, but also aware of how the Bills figured it’s out, showcases it, and the rest of the league capitalized. I said it during the season, he had bright spots, but doesn’t adapt. Too green. I’m okay moving on as long as it’s yo someone more versatile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: just STFU already.... one QB on this roster sucks and just about everyone but like 3 people on this forum know that. you have 200 posts we all know why you're here you followed Wilson in college licking his balls and now all of a sudden because he was drafted by the Jets your now a Jets fan. We don't need fans like you I would be willing to bet anything if Wilson is traded you will not be seen here again. Welcome to ignore like that other idiot factsonly you are CLUELESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I’m aware of the ways in which we had success, but also aware of how the Bills figured it’s out, showcases it, and the rest of the league capitalized. I said it during the season, he had bright spots, but doesn’t adapt. Too green. I’m okay moving on as long as it’s yo someone more versatile. I agree cant argue much with that and i was thinking in that same regard of look what we did to the Jets heres your blueprint. But do you think that blueprint works with AVT and Breece playing ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: I know you saw us putting up major yardage with Mike White at QB the only problem there was players droping game winning TD's in the red zone and players fumbling on important drives . I'm not sure that's on LeFleur because he only had a few games to actually coach the guy and figure out how to get that offense clicking in the red zone ... sometimes that takes time just like it takes an OL to get in sync. I think our timing this year was just terrible and when you sustain the devastating injuries we dealt with i have a hard time blaming the OC. What is this idiot talking about major yardage LMFAO they haven’t scored a touchdown in 3 games MIKE WHITE HAD 0 TDs AND 4 PICKS WITH A 60 RATING YOU NITWIT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: Regardless of whether Zach had potential or not how do you trust in them again on another QB especially one picked much later than #2 as that ship has sailed unless trade everything to move up again. Different Offensive staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: What is this idiot talking about major yardage LMFAO MIKE WHITE HAS 0 TDs AND 4 PICKS WITH A 60 RATING YOU NITWIT!!! He references yardage. You reference scores and turnovers. At least if you’re going to debate, try to resist immediate deflecting to a different stat, you boob. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Augustiniak said: Lots of guys were underutilized, there’s enough weapons and they’re getting breece back. The new OC could look like a genius with all the guys returning and an experienced qb. That's what anyone confident and looking to win thinks. I agree 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Integrity28 said: He references yardage. You reference scores and turnovers. At least if you’re going to debate, try to resist immediate deflecting to a different stat, you boob. Dump offs against the worst defense in the NFL when you’re down 2 scores is not real yardage LOL that’s why they got slapped out the stadium evidenced by the GARBAGE rating GARBAGE TDs and GARBAGE picks GARBAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, Matt39 said: @maury77 here it is… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, jgb said: Great job for a new HC. Not for a OC tied to the existing regime. Agree to disagree. It's a great opportunity for any off cooord. Saleh let's them run the show and will get all the credit in the world. My money is on established guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: Is this satire? Rise up SOJF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Haha, let the record show that @FactsOnly is so thin skinned that it took me casually calling his comments “clown posts” one time in order to trigger him into following me around with neg reps for days… neg reps, hahaha, which I wear as a badge of honor. ??? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Pauline says failures in developing Zach and inability to mold his scheme around his players lead fo a disconnect in the front office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: Dump offs against the worst defense in the NFL when you’re down 2 scores is not real yardage LOL that’s why they got slapped out the stadium evidenced by the GARBAGE rating GARBAGE TDs and GARBAGE picks GARBAGE That’s a little better. At least it attacks his main point, but you’re still impossible to respect or take seriously, because you come across as uneducated and lacking self esteem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Ecuadorian Jet said: If that is the case, which I agree with, why not fire the HC as well? Saleh is different than the previous coaches we’ve had. He actually lets the DC and OC manage their side of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: just STFU already.... one QB on this roster sucks and just about everyone but like 3 people on this forum know that. you have 200 posts we all know why you're here you followed Wilson in college licking his balls and now all of a sudden because he was drafted by the Jets your now a Jets fan. We don't need fans like you I would be willing to bet anything if Wilson is traded you will not be seen here again. Welcome to ignore like that other idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: I know you saw us putting up major yardage with Mike White at QB the only problem there was players droping game winning TD's in the red zone and players fumbling on important drives . I'm not sure that's on LeFleur because he only had a few games to actually coach the guy and figure out how to get that offense clicking in the red zone ... sometimes that takes time just like it takes an OL to get in sync. I think our timing this year was just terrible and when you sustain the devastating injuries we dealt with i have a hard time blaming the OC. Mike White lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, JETS SB said: 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: just STFU already.... one QB on this roster sucks and just about everyone but like 3 people on this forum know that. you have 200 posts we all know why you're here you followed Wilson in college licking his balls and now all of a sudden because he was drafted by the Jets your now a Jets fan. We don't need fans like you I would be willing to bet anything if Wilson is traded you will not be seen here again. Welcome to ignore like that other idiot Expand Nice. Been here way before Zach was drafted. But I have a life and don’t post a lot. Not that I need to explain myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 hours ago, docdhc said: That was the same time we were talking Super Bowl here. I miss those days! Thats right! What a difference 2 months makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 This is an entertainment business, and as such you guys are missing out on the golden choice for new OC for the NYJ. A choice so awful at first glance, but so intriguing the more you think about it... Adam Gase. Think about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lurker89 Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: This “haha Mike LaFleur sucks!” stuff is going to be retroactively hysterical when Joe Douglas is on his hands and knees begging Jimmy Garoppolo to take $80 million guaranteed dollars out of Woody Johnson’s trust fund in a few weeks. 4 hours ago, Dcat said: ok, sure T0m. Once upon a time T0m realized the smartest thing he could do as a prognosticator was to assume that any decisions the Jets as an organization made were the wrong ones and he would have an uncanny hit percentage while triggering much of his own brethren..... the ultimate win/win/win scenario because much like myself T0m would be lost and confused in a world where the Jets stumbled into any actual success. 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Haha, let the record show that @FactsOnly is so thin skinned that it took me casually calling his comments “clown posts” one time in order to trigger him into following me around with neg reps for days… neg reps, hahaha, which I wear as a badge of honor. ??? Nobodies following you you idiot I posted in this thread on the first page and have been discussing this topic for hours its the biggest topic of the off-season you think anyone gives a rats ass about you ???? not only are you a fool, you’re also delusional a rare combo! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheClashFan said: This is an entertainment business, and as such you guys are missing out on the golden choice for new OC for the NYJ. A choice so awful at first glance, but so intriguing the more you think about it... Adam Gase. Think about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Zach Wilson is unteachable and I'm 100% sure of that. You can teach him mechanics all day long in a red Jersey but when you play with the fear he plays with in regular season games and refuse to step up in the pocket and make tough throws and generally let the fear of the pocket destroy your mechanics you will never Improve. The players know this and the coaches know this and it created a big problem with the team this year. For a GM to keep pushing that I would send him packing for that one thing alone. BUT the reality is we don't know who is really saying what, They are keeping it in house as best they can. So rather than speculate we have no choice but to wait this crap out. You could be right on this, but it makes no sense for JD to cut bait with Zach this soon. The risk/reward is heavily skewed towards sticking with Zach and hoping for improvement vs. starting over. He really had no choice but to fire LaFleur and bring someone else in to try and develop him. The real pinch point comes after next season and declaring the 5th year option. If Zach's still garbage, JD likely will trade him like he did with Darnold. Whether he gets to draft another QB will ultimately be up to Woody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: Redemption story. The prodigal son returns as OC and lifts the Jets offense out of the mire. Classic. Downright Biblical. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: @maury77 here it is… Because hes not. Zach Wilson is sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheClashFan said: Redemption story. The prodigal son returns as OC and lifts the Jets offense out of the mire. Classic. Downright Biblical. You are going to speak this evil into existence.... and no one will forgive you. I will make you watch the horror you birthed unfold: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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