Popular Post MR.GANGGREEN28 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 Matt Patricia could become available soon 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who was that guy who trolled all of my posts and called me Elise Stefanik when I suggested that Steve Young was exerting undue influence over the handling of Zach Wilson with the Jets? I have no idea who said that. I have no idea who Elise Stefinak is. If Young was having any influence at all, Saleh would have been fired by now. Uses his weekly spot on ESPN NY to come on and tell us Robert Saleh is a defensive coach so can't possibly be expected to know how to coach a quarterback. But it looks like Bevel could have a legit shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, SR24 said: Olson has 10+ years as an OC and worked with Carr from 18-21 If they want Carr, this is the guy to get. Would wrap up that QB question pretty fast if they land him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 35 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I can guarantee you that Bevell with not call for a slant on the 1 yard line ever again. Got that out of his system. The receiver was wide open and Russ choked 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: League sources say potential coordinator candidates may be turned off by two things... 1. The QB situation 2. Playoff mandate for the team Responded to something similar earlier so I’m just posting that here because I don’t feel like typing it out again: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: If they want Carr, this is the guy to get. Would wrap up that QB question pretty fast if they land him. Yeah I’m doing research on him now and he was also the OC the year Oakland drafted Carr. Took a 2 year break and went to the Jags where he couldn’t fix Bortles and then went back to Oakland. If they want Carr this is a really good way to get him here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 This was the issue that was clear as day the moment all of the talk came about making LaFleur the scapegoat. There simply is not going to be a lot of major interest from any top candidates out there for this job. Pretty much the whole league knows both the GM and HC are (deservedly) on the hot seat and both will likely be looking for work this time next year if they don't get it all right, which mean whoever gets this will likely be losing their job with them. With that said, I don't necessarily have a major issue with Bevell. Not a great candidate, but if you're going to be pulling this stunt now, better served at least going with someone who has experience in the position. This being a learning experience for a new OC is not in anyone's best interests with the clock already ticking. It's now or never for all of these guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverweightJetsFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Imagine if they hired Matt Nagy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbucco19 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 53 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Lots of pros and cons to Bevell. I wouldn’t be opposed to it. Not my first choice though. Bevell ???. This franchise will never learn .. I’ll start looking at the 2024 Hc candidates ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, AFJF said: I have no idea who said that. I have no idea who Elise Stefinak is. If Young was having any influence at all, Saleh would have been fired by now. Uses his weekly spot on ESPN NY to come on and tell us Robert Saleh is a defensive coach so can't possibly be expected to know how to coach a quarterback. But it looks like Bevel could have a legit shot. Bevell is going to be the hire, and Zach Wilson will be QB1 on 2023. Bevell checks a lot of boxes because he’s a dead-ender who poses no threat to Saleh and he’ll be acceptable to Steve Young. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Rosenblatt doesn’t bother me by any means, but he doesn’t strike me at all as having any inside sources with the org yet. I imagine he’s just connecting the dots like we are.Pretty much the way I read his quote. He is speculating, not sharing any inside info.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 55 minutes ago, pointman said: I need to know how to feel about this. Does he actually run the ball on 3rd and short? And does he know how to coach quarterbacks? Funny you should ask…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hex Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The receiver was wide open and Russ choked Exactly the reason why it was a bad playcall. Lynch gets in easy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 53 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who was that guy who trolled all of my posts and called me Elise Stefanik No idea but I’m so pissed it wasn’t me lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Hex said: Exactly the reason why it was a bad playcall. Lynch gets in easy Lynch was statistically terrible in short yardage situations that year 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Lynch was statistically terrible in short yardage situations that year Huh. Yea that muddles it up a bit. What do you personally think the best call was there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Hex said: Huh. Yea that muddles it up a bit. What do you personally think the best call was there? I think NFL fans have an unrealistic grading system for OCs wherein if the play works, they think the OC is a genius, but if the play gets broken up, the OC is a clown. The great staff they out together in Jacksonville to develop Lawrence just put up negative yards in the second half of a de facto playoff game against an overmatched Titans team. The median average scoring for NFL teams this season was 22.1 points per game. All you can do as an OC is call a play that gets the receiver open when you need it, and I thought Bevell did that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 They’re going to value guys who will keep the Shanahan principles in place. Darrell Bevell being floated because of his approach with QBs as well as his history with Saleh. He’s gotten rave reviews for his work with Tua, and Mike McDaniel gives him most of the credit for it. He’s a strong communicator that values understanding his QBs and building offenses around them. WCO background and was a quick study learning the version of the Shanahan offense McDaniel implemented this year, effectively bonded with Tua and got the most out of him. I think many are willing to overlook what happened in Jacksonville (Urban Meyer) and focus on his successes. Not only does Bevell have a long history of establishing the run as a staple of his offense, he has also worked with a number of “gunslinger-types” who have had a tendency to set plays up through the air by moving the pocket with their legs (Brett Favre, Tavaris Jackson, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, Trevor Lawrence-post Meyer, Tua Tagovailoa). Read into that however you may I don’t know that Bevell will be the guy they nab. He may be. Like everyone else I will be left feeling meh. He’s a QB teacher but when left to create his own schemes, plays, and game plans, they’ve largely been bland. Only way he makes sense to me is if you’re hiring him to be the OC while bringing in a creative offensive mind to serve as passing game coordinator/QB/WR coach. In an ideal world you’re pairing a guy like Bevell with a guy like MLF, but usually the person who plays MLF’s role is the “passing game coordinator”, not the “offensive coordinator” 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 41 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: Darrell Bevell would be enough for me to make other use of my time on Sundays besides inflicting my own pain watching a boring dull offense Nathaniel Hackett is radioactive bad The Jets will hire anyone willing to pretend they can rehab Zach. The names on that list will be pretty desperate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just to refresh everyone's memory..... Pats-Seahawks Super Bowl.... Seattle has the ball at the 1 yard line with THE BEAST Marshawn Lynch ready to bring home The Championship to Seattle. But No, Wait, The "genius" OC decides to throw an inside slant to a WR on the 1, and we we all know how that ended. Easily the worst call in football history. The OC that game... Darrell Bevell. HELL NO TO THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: Responded to something similar earlier so I’m just posting that here because I don’t feel like typing it out again: I think there are legit arguments for firing LaFleur (or “mutually parting ways,” or whatever). My concern is with who made the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverweightJetsFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Saleh should avoid the buddy hire and bring in the best guy for the job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, SR24 said: Olson has 10+ years as an OC and worked with Carr from 18-21 I'm convinced! Get a time machine, go back to 2018, and bring Derek Carr "back" here! Let the world deal with there being two Derek Carrs in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: I like Bevell a lot. Impressive dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Ain't got a QB, ain't gonna matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Some might oppose Bevell as OC but consider this film study: His brother went blind. Went to a U2 concert and held up a sign that he was ready to play a song. Bono called him up and he crushed it. yeah nothing to do with anything here but still cool to me lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: Responded to something similar earlier so I’m just posting that here because I don’t feel like typing it out again: Some of these things will play a factor, but I tend to agree that there’s other ways to look at it: you don’t want a guy who is going to shrink in the face of that challenge… If you build an offense here you can build it anywhere. They’re going to keep some of the offensive staff so at least there will be coaches in place— the one-and-done scenarios impact young positional coaches more-so then the proven guys. An OC will have say in things but could see them keeping Benton, Middleton, Embree around. Maybe Calabrese sticks or is reassigned, but his biggest supporter is now gone so not confident there. The new OC likely will need to bring a new QBC and WRC with him at the very least. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Hex said: Exactly the reason why it was a bad playcall. Lynch gets in easy Lynch had horrible goal line stats that season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 It’s going to be Greg Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: It’s going to be Greg Roman Interesting name, sounds like he is going to Stanford though, and if i was him i'd take that job over an nfl job easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 We should hire Zach’s mom to be the new OC. She could do the chunky soup commercials with him and straighten him out. It would be a brilliant move by JD to save Zach and in turn save himself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: Bevell is going to be the hire, and Zach Wilson will be QB1 on 2023. Bevell checks a lot of boxes because he’s a dead-ender who poses no threat to Saleh and he’ll be acceptable to Steve Young. I’m deadpan resigned to this fate. Bevell is Mormon, too, and can probably sell Woodrow as far as the all-important “connecting with Zach” factor. Bevell is the same guy who failed to develop golden boy Trev Lawrence. The offense is gonna suck and they’re all gonna be fired a year from now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 13 hours ago, dbatesman said: I think there are legit arguments for firing LaFleur (or “mutually parting ways,” or whatever). My concern is with who made the decision. Johnson Fired LefLeur & Johnson Allowed saleh to tell the media there was a "mutual" -cough cough- parting of ways to save face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 hours ago, Mogglez said: Responded to something similar earlier so I’m just posting that here because I don’t feel like typing it out again: 4. ALWAYS USE A BIGGER FONT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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