mrcoops Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: Saleh - Jets to be "aggressive as heck" to fix QB I'd prefer we were as aggressive as hell, but I'll take the PG version if it leads to a quality QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Sounds like a dude with a legit chip on his shoulder Jets play @LV in ‘23 He’d have his chance to stick it to McDaniels, put a 40 burger on that trash defense40? I know we did that once this year, but wouldn't it be nice to see that a few times? Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Does anyone know when can you start trade talks? After the Superbowl I imagine, the trade probably won't go through until the next league year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: I don't see a big improvement out there above Mike White, ZW is out of the picture will be cut, he can't hurt you guys anymore, move on. The benchmark is Mike White, not ZW I might agree but for White;s injury history. Was injured 2x in 21 and then got hurt again in 22. A QB in today's game needs some mobility, you don't necessarily have to run like Lamar or Fields, but need to be able to move around in the pocket, avoid hits and extend plays. White has at least looked the part of an NFL QB, but he is a statue back there and I am afraid he will continue to take big hits and struggle to stay on the field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, freestater said: So....Heineke then? Jacoby Brissett baby!!!!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Why aren’t the pressers streaming live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lith said: Aaron Wilson (who was first with the Lafleur news yesterday) says Calabrese is gone too. Good, clean slate for the new OC, bring in your entire staff. I'd love to see an OC that can do what Pederson did at HC, T.Law is surrounded by good coaching. This is why I'd like a former HC that can build out the positional coaches w/ hopefully guys he's worked w/ in the past. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 He said he’s gonna be super aggressive to fix the QB play not super aggressive, acquiring a new QB. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lith said: Aaron Wilson (who was first with the Lafleur news yesterday) says Calabrese is gone too. OK then - good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lith said: I might agree but for White;s injury history. Was injured 2x in 21 and then got hurt again in 22. A QB in today's game needs some mobility, you don't necessarily have to run like Lamar or Fields, but need to be able to move around in the pocket, avoid hits and extend plays. White has at least looked the part of an NFL QB, but he is a statue back there and I am afraid he will continue to take big hits and struggle to stay on the field. I don't see anyone who is much better avaialble than MW, I hope I am wrong, but MW is a competent QB. Fix the O line and bring in a competent OC and I think hes as good as anyone avaialble 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, LockeJET said: He said he’s gonna be super aggressive to fix the QB play not super aggressive, acquiring a new QB. He's going to require Zach to run stadiums w/ him now, isnt he? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, JiFields said: I'm now convinced it's either Carr (because Woody thinks he's a big name), Lamar, or Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Top 5 defense that never generates turnovers and gives up the awful pl at the just the most awful time. The young skill guys is a plus for sure 'Promise to fix the oline'.....snicker Aggressive to get a QB, the question back is who you going after? Can teams talk to other teams about players now? Are we allowed to talk to the Raiders about Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Zachtomims47 said: I'm now convinced it's either Carr (because Woody thinks he's a big name), Lamar, or Rodgers. I'd prefer trying to give Rodgers a swan song ending w/ a championship or going yolo and having a blast w/ Lamar to the mayonnaise but I like it spicy! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: Speaking of Carr....he officially said his goodbye to the Raiders about 30 minutes ago: How many weeks as a Jet until he’s referring to 2022 with the Raiders as “the good old days?” 16 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Carr has a no trade clause. So they should know fairly quickly if he’s interested or not. He will waive if it comes with agreement in principle of a juicy extension once trade processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: Wasn't Miles Austin suspended by the NFL for a year for violating the gambling policy or something? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 So Saleh in his presser literally called Rob Calabrese by name as "a guy who is young and getting better every week". So, if Rob does indeed get chopped, it's about as clear as day who's calling the shots on staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, jgb said: How many weeks as a Jet until he’s referring to 2022 with the Raiders as “the good old days?” He will waive if it comes with agreement in principle of a juicy extension once trade processed. I'm not even sure he would look for an extension. He just got a massive one from the Raiders. He'll look for the most favorable landing spot, but if I'm Carr and his agent, the biggest thing for me would be to keep my current contract that makes him like the 7th highest paid QB in the league. If he gets cut...is he really going to get $40+ million a year in FA? I'm not so sure he would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Best case scenario? Dolphins sign Brady and fire McDaniel for some reason. Mike McD becomes our OC. Lamar wants out. Joe D makes the trade. The realistic scenario? Darrell Bevell + Gardiner Minshew (the perfect, we're not giving up on Zach, and Minshew is desperate to get on the field and sees real opportunity here, compromise choice). The realistic scenario is just that. Far more likely we see a bridge guy and a high end QB developer come in to work with Zach. Going after Carr or Lamar pretty much ends Zach's career with the Jets and I simply don't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Please enlighten us with all the exciting options we have out there, Debbie I made a separate post where I said there are so many options it would make your head spin. You can critique them all you want- too expensive, not good enough, injury prone, can't play in bad weather, will cost draft capital, unlikely, 'i don't want him', too old, etc., etc. but ALL of these options would be a considerable upgrade to what we have now. Especially to Zach. And would probably be enough to lead this defensive minded team to the playoffs. In no particular order: Brady, Darnold, Jimmy G, Daniel Jones, Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heinicke, Lamar Jackson, Cooper Rush, Minshew, Tannenhill, Carr, Wentz, Rodgers/Love, Jameis Winston. I'm sure there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Does anyone know when can you start trade talks? After the Superbowl I imagine, the trade probably won't go through until the next league year They can talk and agree in principal literally tonight. Nothing is official until March 15th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PepPep said: I made a separate post where I said there are so many options it would make your head spin. You can critique them all you want- too expensive, not good enough, injury prone, can't play in bad weather, will cost draft capital, unlikely, 'i don't want him', too old, etc., etc. but ALL of these options would be a considerable upgrade to what we have now. Especially to Zach. And would probably be enough to lead this defensive minded team to the playoffs. In no particular order: Brady, Darnold, Jimmy G, Daniel Jones, Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, Andy Dalton, Taylor Heinicke, Lamar Jackson, Cooper Rush, Minshew, Tannenhill, Carr, Wentz, Rodgers/Love, Jameis Winston. I'm sure there are others. None of the realistic options are any better than Mike White IMO, who is a competent but underwhelming option, much like the attainable guys on your list 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irktusk1957 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: None of the realistic options are any better than Mike White IMO, who is a competent but underwhelming option, much like the attainable guys on your list yeah, but what's your opinion on Mile White? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, JTJet said: They can talk and agree in principal literally tonight. Nothing is official until March 15th. Ohh thanks didn't know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 QB off season program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Where is the video for the press conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: I don't see anyone who is much better avaialble than MW, I hope I am wrong, but MW is a competent QB. Fix the O line and bring in a competent OC and I think hes as good as anyone avaialble How can people still be saying this? Mike White throws for more yards than Zac Wilson but he does not win and turns the ball over way more and gets hurt every second game. Now White is competent enough that if the rest of the team was all pro like the niners he could be okay I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Ohh thanks didn't know that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Did he mention Moore by name with Wilson and Hall? At least mildly interesting if so. Definitely thought Moore could’ve been used better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: The realistic scenario is just that. Far more likely we see a bridge guy and a high end QB developer come in to work with Zach. Going after Carr or Lamar pretty much ends Zach's career with the Jets and I simply don't see that happening. While I agree, GETTING Carr...but especially Lamar who is 5 years younger, will make ending Zach's career with the Jets inconsequential. In other words. Zach's ties to the Jets only matter because of the massive vacancy it creates at the QB position and the failure JD has to accept by whiffing on the #2 overall pick. I get it, he stinks. But at least with him on the team, as a talented 23 year old, there is still SOME hope for a turnaround. However, with Lamar (and to an extent Carr) on board, Zach, essentially doesn't matter. JD's failure to develop him or his 'whiff' is not nearly as impactful anymore because he 'fixed' the position- not just put a band-aid on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, JETS SB said: Lamar would be my choice but might cost too much. Carr or Garoppolo will likely be at a reasonable price or even nothing if released. Raiders won’t let Carr hang around once bonus goes into effect in February. I think Saleh would like to stick with familiarity, Garoppolo might be the guy, with Bevell as OC. Forced marriages with coaches hardly ever works. This will at least give Saleh a guy he has worked with before and successfully. Lamar is a huge risk. He's never beeen any good for production with his WRs either. All legs and Mark Andrews. Why does Baltimore want to see him gone? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, JTJet said: They can talk and agree in principal literally tonight. Nothing is official until March 15th. So if we agree before 2/15 his salary is locked in on our books for 2023 and 2024 but it doesn't become official until 3/15? Also, the Feb. 15 deadline poses an issue. Theoretically, the Raiders and a team of Carr’s liking can agree in principle to a trade, but per NFL rules, no trade can be officially consummated until the new league year begins March 15. So, while a deal can be made, there is always the possibility of the other team backing out before the new league year starts — and after the Feb. 15 deadline passes — and the Raiders being stuck with Carr and the $40.5 million roster guarantee. One way to mitigate that concern is for the Raiders and Carr to renegotiate the roster deadline to March 16 so that the Raiders can release him should a team they worked out a trade with back out. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders/what-are-raiders-options-with-derek-carr-2709997/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Zachtomims47 said: Unfortunately Carr has a say in where he goes and I just can't see him wanting to come here with Saleh being on the hot seat. every place that needs a QB is on the hot seat outside of Houston and they're not going for a 32 year old Quarterback thats why they're on the hot seat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Saleh - Jets to be "aggressive as heck" to fix QB... Does he mean like RECEIPTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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