Oh, STFU Steve.

[Jet_Engine1]

You BYU simp. Shut up, bro. Your hairplugs are terrible....almost as bad as your Zach Takes. 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/steve-young-jets-failed-zach-wilson-with-tough-love-approach/

[bonkertons]

I guess it's easy now to avoid ever being wrong about a prospect not living up to the hype you spouted.  Blame the coaching staff/organization for how they developed them.  

 

Ryan Leaf didn't suck...the Chargers failed him.  

[maury77]

Whatever Steve. Maybe if your guy's balls finally dropped he wouldn't need so much coddling. 

[VJphillyfan]

[Larz]

Wow. I thought Steve was helping when he said Zach couldn’t play the victim after getting benched but this is not helpful lol.   
 

 

[Untouchable]

I imagine Steve Young trembling in Montana’s presence the same as Renfield does with Dracula.

[VJphillyfan]

38 minutes ago, bonkertons said:

I guess it's easy now to avoid ever being wrong about a prospect not living up to the hype you spouted.  Blame the coaching staff/organization for how they developed them.  

 

Ryan Leaf didn't suck...the Chargers failed him.  

Steve should put his money where his mouth is and apply for the Jets OC job.  Steve Young, Chris Simms, 50% of this messageboard are all saying Zach being terrible was entirely Lafleur’s fault — Surely Steve Young as the OC will develop Zach into Aaron Rodgers 2.0

[Gastineau Lives]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

I imagine Steve Young trembling in Montana’s presence the same as Renfield does with Dracula.

Dude like wtf

[jetsons]

1 hour ago, VJphillyfan said:

Steve should put his money where his mouth is and apply for the Jets OC job.  Steve Young, Chris Simms, 50% of this messageboard are all saying Zach being terrible was entirely Lafleur’s fault — Surely Steve Young as the OC will develop Zach into Aaron Rodgers 2.0

Not the OC but the QB Coach, that would be a good position for him.

[JETS SB]

Dumb thread 

[Hal N of Provo]

4 hours ago, jetsons said:

Not the OC but the QB Coach, that would be a good position for him.

Steve makes tons of money in venture capital and has the commentator jobs on top of it.   He’s not taking a coaching job.  

[Hal N of Provo]

6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

You BYU simp. Shut up, bro. Your hairplugs are terrible....almost as bad as your Zach Takes. 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/steve-young-jets-failed-zach-wilson-with-tough-love-approach/

It’s come out LeFired wasn’t talking to Zach and had a closed door.   That’s insane for a rookie QB.  

[jgb]

7 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

You BYU simp. Shut up, bro. Your hairplugs are terrible....almost as bad as your Zach Takes. 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/steve-young-jets-failed-zach-wilson-with-tough-love-approach/

Knew this sh*t was coming. BYU cannot press it himself because he’s been tainted with “anti-team-guy” stink so he needs to depend on surrogates to make the case.

[T0mShane]

“Zach doesn’t need tough love. He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is. He needs a big brother — a young, knowledgeable innovator, someone who he can trust and says to him, ‘You know what, despite everything that’s happened, Zach, I believe in you. You can get this done.’ Zach needs that,”

 

Holy sh*t. It’s parody at this point. Get this Gen Z puss so far the **** off of my football team that I’d need to buy a satellite dish to ever see him play football again. I never, ever, ever want to hear or read anyone blaming “coaching” for Zach Wilson being an abject failure ever again. The kid is just a straight-up mama’s boy bitch 

[Bugg]

Once again we are told there must be some  magical unicorn coach who can unlock the wonderous potential greatness of Zach Wilson, if only he tells him the most sagacious advice, delivered with hugs, hot cocoa and attaboys. Sure. that will solve the bounce passes and the fleeing backward in the face of a pass rush, I guess? 

Lafleur may have been a bit off putting, not warm and fuzzy, who knows. But there's nobody saying he was a screaming lunatic ogre. And if Team Wilson wants to start accusing Lafleur of that, expecting the "coaching community" is not going to take kindly to such slagging of Lafleur. Wilson is well on his way to establishing himself as a coach killer. That is not a good thing. 

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, Hal N of Provo said:

It’s come out LeFired wasn’t talking to Zach and had a closed door.   That’s insane for a rookie QB.  

Do you have a source for that? Was LAF any different with other QBs? Not saying this isn't true, I don't know. But does feel like SOMEBODY has now decided to dirty up the reputation of Mike Lafleur on his way out. Gee, who might have a reason to blow out his candle in hopes his own might shine brighter? 

Could have been weeks during the season Wilson wasn't active or injured. Should Lafluer during preps for those weeks indulge Wilson? 

All this 2nd hand stuff , on the sly, using Steve Young ; if Team Wilson wants to make sure their boy has a short career, keep it up. Better have invested that $ wisely. 

[Matt39]

Steve’s a rich kid from Greenwich too

[Matt39]

47 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

“Zach doesn’t need tough love. He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is. He needs a big brother — a young, knowledgeable innovator, someone who he can trust and says to him, ‘You know what, despite everything that’s happened, Zach, I believe in you. You can get this done.’ Zach needs that,”

 

Holy sh*t. It’s parody at this point. Get this Gen Z puss so far the **** off of my football team that I’d need to buy a satellite dish to ever see him play football again. I never, ever, ever want to hear or read anyone blaming “coaching” for Zach Wilson being an abject failure ever again. The kid is just a straight-up mama’s boy bitch 

Meteor > Gen Z

[JiFtheOracle]

Does Steve Young realize in his attempt to save Zach's reputation, that he's making Zach look like a huge entitled pusswah who is not fit for the NFL or any career that involves pressure? 

[Dunnie]

Bring him in as QB coach tomorrow ... Guy was a tremendous player.

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[Ghost420]

I'm pretty sure FactsOnly is Steve Young or Zachs mom. 

[rangerous]

Maybe we all expect these are all rough tough football players but they are all different and some need better teachers in order to succeed. Remember Richard Todd? I don’t think any qb could be tougher since he came from a bear Bryant team but he lost quite a bit when Walton became coach. Prior to that he had Walton to air his issues with. After Walton he had no one. Well maybe kotite or bratkowski but those guys were very much old school.

at this juncture it seems pretty obvious milf did not coach up the players. And his assistants were probably kept out of the loop too. It doubtful that lafleur had any control over them too.

[T0mShane]

12 minutes ago, JiFields said:

Does Steve Young realize in his attempt to save Zach's reputation, that he's making Zach look like a huge entitled pusswah who is not fit for the NFL or any career that involves pressure? 

He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is.

[FactsOnly]

He’s unequivocally right

everyone outside of delusional Jet fans ALL say it

[FactsOnly]

12 minutes ago, Ghost420 said:

I'm pretty sure FactsOnly is Steve Young or Zachs mom. 

I hadn’t even posted in this thread and my fans clamoring for me

[Hal N of Provo]

47 minutes ago, Bugg said:

Do you have a source for that? Was LAF any different with other QBs? Not saying this isn't true, I don't know. But does feel like SOMEBODY has now decided to dirty up the reputation of Mike Lafleur on his way out. Gee, who might have a reason to blow out his candle in hopes his own might shine brighter? 

Could have been weeks during the season Wilson wasn't active or injured. Should Lafluer during preps for those weeks indulge Wilson? 

All this 2nd hand stuff , on the sly, using Steve Young ; if Team Wilson wants to make sure their boy has a short career, keep it up. Better have invested that $ wisely. 

Yeah it’s been mentioned in passing in a bunch of places.  I’ll tag you if I see it again.  I don’t like hunting for stuff that’s been mentioned a bunch of times.  
 

MiLF Was in over his head and hired an inexperienced QB coach who was trying to grow into a future genius OC. 
 

Mike Whjte sucked in camp.  Heard the beat reference they had seen obvious progress in a question to Saleh and he acknowledged it.  They pulled Mike Whjte out to “work on the side” and he got better.  Once he goes back in he started regressing too.  It wasn’t all ribs he was inaccurate before the big hit. The short ball inaccuracy was new for White and eye opening. 

They were horrible with the QBs.

This doesn’t make Zach magically good but having incompetent coaching your first 2 years in the NFL does matter.  

[JiFtheOracle]

38 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is.

Between Zach's behavior, his Mom's participation in any little knock on her son, and Steve Young doing a sports talk radio tour trying to salvage Zach's reputation, yeah, he doesnt have to prove he's tough because everything on the surface screams pusswah

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, JiFields said:

Between Zach's behavior, his Mom's participation in any little knock on her son, and Steve Young doing a sports talk radio tour trying to salvage Zach's reputation, yeah, he doesnt have to prove he's tough because everything on the surface screams pusswah

What’s striking is that this is the official defense of Zach’s career—that his coaches weren’t nice enough to him. Young has a law degree. This is what they’re building their case on—that Mike LaFleur was too hard on him. You can’t make this up.

[JiFtheOracle]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

What’s striking is that this is the official defense of Zach’s career—that his coaches weren’t nice enough to him. Young has a law degree. This is what they’re building their case on—that Mike LaFleur was too hard on him. You can’t make this up.

Which makes you wonder, did he or his team bring ask to bring in John Beck last year because Lil Mikey was too mean and they needed a cushion between them?  smh

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, JiFields said:

Which makes you wonder, did he or his team bring ask to bring in John Beck last year because Lil Mikey was too mean and they needed a cushion between them?  smh

I’d imagine it was like flying someone’s favorite cousin in to stage an intervention. Beck has been Wilson’s QB coach for years and needs to protect the grift, like when wealthy parents hire a voice coach for their wholly untalented kid. I thought it was fun this season when they brought him in for a day and he was like “Yeah, good luck” before hopping back onto the plane. The owner is out on Zach, the coach is out on Zach, and now we’re down to Steve Young trying to dictate who takes over at OC. 

[tdoublee]

Hire Steve Young as QB Coach so he can see how much Zach sucks up close and personal.

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[maury77]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

“Zach doesn’t need tough love. He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is. He needs a big brother — a young, knowledgeable innovator, someone who he can trust and says to him, ‘You know what, despite everything that’s happened, Zach, I believe in you. You can get this done.’ Zach needs that,”

 

Holy sh*t. It’s parody at this point. Get this Gen Z puss so far the **** off of my football team that I’d need to buy a satellite dish to ever see him play football again. I never, ever, ever want to hear or read anyone blaming “coaching” for Zach Wilson being an abject failure ever again. The kid is just a straight-up mama’s boy bitch 

Zach is easily my least favorite Jet since Santonio. 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, maury77 said:

Zach is easily my least favorite Jet since Santonio. 

Jamal, but in the same vein.

[Lith]

“Zach doesn’t need tough love. He doesn’t need somebody to see how tough he is. He needs a big brother — a young, knowledgeable innovator, someone who he can trust and says to him, ‘You know what, despite everything that’s happened, Zach, I believe in you. You can get this done.’ Zach needs that,” Young said. “Mike [LaFleur] kind of kept him at arm’s length and kind of gave him the tough love aspect, and I don’t think that’s really useful for Zach.”

I guess Zach needs this guy

[The Crusher]

7 hours ago, JETS SB said:

Dumb thread 

There are other types?