Jets OC interviews (Merged OC Candidates Thread)

[Beerfish]

He would have to feel he is spinning his wheels under Andy Reid to be looking at other oc jobs.  I have no idea at all what to think of Bieniemy.

[Hal N of Provo]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

He would have to feel he is spinning his wheels under Andy Reid to be looking at other oc jobs.  I have no idea at all what to think of Bieniemy.

Some articles say he hasn’t had opportunities because some people think Reid really runs the whole show but people see him calling plays at times.  

[Hex]

34 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I know Reid is the brain in KC but bieniemy is an intriguing name. 

 

 

 

I was about to ask why Bieniemy would ever want to OC somewhere else, as he has a dream OC position with the Chiefs, but I realized he's also under the shadow of Andy Reid, and it's clear if he wants to become an HC he'll have to go somewhere that doesn't have one of the greatests offensive minds ever coaching over him. Jets would be a very interesting prospect to him as they have a defensive HC.

[football guy]

2 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

Can someone translate?

There are 5 teams that have yet to sign a HC. Once they do, a number of incumbents at other positions will probably be let go, which will make lateral/downgrade transitions acceptable. 

For example, Klint Kubiak is still PGC/QB coach in Denver. If they hire a coach who lets him go and chooses to bring in his own staff, he’ll be available for the Jets to hire as a QB coach (and/or PGC). Same can be said for a lot of guys (Pep Hamilton, Ben McAdoo, James Campen, Chris Strausser…)

[jeremy2020]

3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He would have to feel he is spinning his wheels under Andy Reid to be looking at other oc jobs.  I have no idea at all what to think of Bieniemy.

Only way he'll ever possibly get a HC job is to go be OC somewhere else (and have success).

[68JET11]

On 1/24/2023 at 9:41 PM, football guy said:

I think the team desperately wants to incorporate a more simple offensive strategy where they kind of take the core Shanahan/WCO principles but integrate more creative wrinkles such as the RPO… you look at what PHI and CIN are doing with it and it’s so simple, I think that’s what the Jets want.

If true, then at least that's a good sign...

[56mehl56]

10 hours ago, football guy said:

There are 5 teams that have yet to sign a HC. Once they do, a number of incumbents at other positions will probably be let go, which will make lateral/downgrade transitions acceptable. 

For example, Klint Kubiak is still PGC/QB coach in Denver. If they hire a coach who lets him go and chooses to bring in his own staff, he’ll be available for the Jets to hire as a QB coach (and/or PGC). Same can be said for a lot of guys (Pep Hamilton, Ben McAdoo, James Campen, Chris Strausser…)

But also on the flipside, when those 5 HC's are signed they are bound to be looking at some of the same OC and offensive assistants the Jets are looking at currently. 

[football guy]

The leadership, communication, and ability to teach players was critical for the hire. More critical than play-calling. 

Whoever they hire next (QB coach, Pass Game Coordinator, etc.) will likely have a lot of experience running variations of the RPO 

[peekskill68]

6 minutes ago, football guy said:

The leadership, communication, and ability to teach players was critical for the hire. More critical than play-calling. 

Whoever they hire next (QB coach, Pass Game Coordinator, etc.) will likely have a lot of experience running variations of the RPO 

Given the mediocre job Saleh has done as HC so far, is he really being given autonomy to interview/build his own offensive staff?  From Breer's post, that's how I read it.

[football guy]

7 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

Given the mediocre job Saleh has done as HC so far, is he really being given autonomy to interview/build his own offensive staff?  From Breer's post, that's how I read it.

Everyone's involved but he makes the ultimate decision. Hackett was a name they identified as an addition to the staff way before MLF was even fired, so I think the FO and ownership was on-board on it. 

Keith Carter is connected via a number of ways. Worked with Saleh in Seattle. Worked under Shanahan and our chief of staff Steve Scarnecchia in ATL. Worked under Matt LaFleur in Tennessee. 

[Tranquilo]

Just now, football guy said:

Everyone's involved but he makes the ultimate decision. Hackett was a name they identified as an addition to the staff way before MLF was even fired, so I think the FO and ownership was on-board on it. 

Keith Carter is connected via a number of ways. Worked with Saleh in Seattle. Worked under Shanahan and our chief of staff Steve Scarnecchia in ATL. Worked under Matt LaFleur in Tennessee. 

So they see Hackett has being able to connect and teach and all that, but he hasn't been a successful playcaller. How do they plan to deal with that?

[football guy]

1 minute ago, Tranquilo said:

So they see Hackett has being able to connect and teach and all that, but he hasn't been a successful playcaller. How do they plan to deal with that?

Whether Hackett calls plays or not is ultimately up to him, but I would expect they will add another coach to the staff who has experience doing it... by no means are they done with their offensive staff. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 minute ago, football guy said:

Whether Hackett calls plays or not is ultimately up to him, but I would expect they will add another coach to the staff who has experience doing it... by no means are they done with their offensive staff. 

When has an OC not called plays? Outside of guys under HC's like McVay, Reid, etc?

[Sarge4Tide]

I anticipate a large contingent of JetNation posters storming Jet Headquarters in paramilitary attire in an attempt to overthrow the official signing of the new Offensive Coordinator

[peekskill68]

Asking because I don't know - 

Did Denver and Tennessee use the same zone blocking scheme we've been using under Benton?

[football guy]

11 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

When has an OC not called plays? Outside of guys under HC's like McVay, Reid, etc?

It's happening more and more; teams are giving coaches an opportunities to call plays in certain situations much like the Chiefs do... i.e. the Chiefs split play-calling duties between 3 coaches. They're going to hire a Passing Game Coordinator/Specialist and that person will likely have play-calling experience, so if Hackett wants to have a collaborative process or assign play-calling duties to someone, he will be able to do that 

Klint Kubiak is probably the biggest name guy who will come into that role. I also wouldn't rule out Brian Johnson as QB coach/PGC (unlikely but possible). Pep Hamilton another one

[BigRy56]

Could Frank Reich be in play for this position if he doesn't land the Carolina job?

[football guy]

19 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Could Frank Reich be in play for this position if he doesn't land the Carolina job?

Doubtful but maybe. Marcus Brady and Klint Kubiak are the two most likely candidates for that role

[choon328]

 

 

[football guy]

4 minutes ago, choon328 said:

 

 

Seems like the Rams are already learning that MLF is not a great communicator lol 

[choon328]

4 minutes ago, football guy said:

Seems like the Rams are already learning that MLF is not a great communicator lol 

The Jets have a new OC now, you can stop scapegoating LaFleur

[CSNY]

2 hours ago, BigRy56 said:

Could Frank Reich be in play for this position if he doesn't land the Carolina job?

Sure hope so. He can keep an eye on Hackett as I am not really all that enamored with him. 
Reich might even bring Wentz with him as a backup (not to say Wentz is all that but he is better than anyone on the roster now which is not saying much) since I think he was forced to bench him by cocaine Jim Irasy   

[football guy]

22 minutes ago, choon328 said:

The Jets have a new OC now, you can stop scapegoating LaFleur

I'm not scapegoating him. I thought keeping him and bringing on a senior-level staff member was the right move. It didn't work out because despite being a very bright guy and great offensive mind, he can't communicate worth dick. 

[Cbucco19]

I mean this is true !! Only  hope I’m holding onto 

[David Harris]

17 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He would have to feel he is spinning his wheels under Andy Reid to be looking at other oc jobs.  I have no idea at all what to think of Bieniemy.

Apparently he’s a weirdo

[Adoni Beast]

43 minutes ago, Cbucco19 said:

I mean this is true !! Only  hope I’m holding onto 

[Cbucco19]

@football guy any ideas on the senior assistant ? Now that Hackett is the oc 

[football guy]

4 minutes ago, Cbucco19 said:

@football guy any ideas on the senior assistant ? Now that Hackett is the oc 

Expectation it will be a Passing Game Coordinator/Specialist, so it will likely be someone with a background in QBs. The Jets want to introduce a lot more RPO in their base offense, so someone with a background in that could be emphasized. I wouldn’t look at age for this one either- more experience and background. To be clear I’m just connecting the dots based on information I got in the OV search so take it however you may… 

• Brian Johnson: *unlikely but worth mentioning* he probably will get a promotion in PHI and stay there, but he’s someone that a lot of people close to the Jets are high on and he fits in the sense that he has a reputation for developing QBs and RPO implementation.
• Marcus Brady: a lot of the same reasons above. Has worked with all types of QBs in several types of spread/RPO schemes. He grew up in Trestman’s Shanahan-rooted WCO and grew in Reich’s schemes, which tailor to the QBs preferences + implement heavy RPO usage. It’s entirely possible Reich hires him in Carolina or stays put in Philadelphia in a more permanent role, but his name is one to watch. 
• Scott Milanovich: currently on the Colts’ staff, but like Brady has a deep history working with QBs (mostly in the CFL) in offenses that implement the RPO. Also crossed over with Saleh & Hackett in Jacksonville. 
• Klint Kubiak: there’s a lot of connections to our staff via Saleh and Hackett. Saleh tried hiring his dad. Has a deep history working with QBs in this offense and would be the kind of guy who drills fundamentals. 
• Pep Hamilton: similar to Kubiak and well respected. Jets have him on their list as someone of interest for a pass game role. 
• Greg Roman: his work in the run game and implementation of RPO offense is well known. He’s also a football lifer from NJ. He’s not a QB guy, but he’s created some of the most simple and explosive offenses we’ve ever seen. I’d love to see if he can mesh his offense with a more traditional WCO passing attack. 
• David Shaw: lots of connections in the Jets front office and there’s a lot of respect for him. Well versed in the WCO and could be more of a Gregg Knapp like presence who works to support the coaches and QBs in a more loose senior role. 
• Pat Shurmur: less high profile but similar kind of versatile veteran Jets had in mind in Knapp. Jets had him on their list for senior assistant a few weeks ago.
• Greg Olson: apparently doesn’t want to leave the west coast but worth mentioning. 

Other names… 

• Jay Gruden
• Ben McAdoo
• Rick Dennison
• Jay Gruden 
• Joe Lombardi 
• Shane Day 
• John Donovan 

 

 

[C Mart]

19 minutes ago, football guy said:

Expectation it will be a Passing Game Coordinator/Specialist, so it will likely be someone with a background in QBs. The Jets want to introduce a lot more RPO in their base offense, so someone with a background in that could be emphasized. I wouldn’t look at age for this one either- more experience and background. To be clear I’m just connecting the dots based on information I got in the OV search so take it however you may… 

• Brian Johnson: *unlikely but worth mentioning* he probably will get a promotion in PHI and stay there, but he’s someone that a lot of people close to the Jets are high on and he fits in the sense that he has a reputation for developing QBs and RPO implementation.
• Marcus Brady: a lot of the same reasons above. Has worked with all types of QBs in several types of spread/RPO schemes. He grew up in Trestman’s Shanahan-rooted WCO and grew in Reich’s schemes, which tailor to the QBs preferences + implement heavy RPO usage. It’s entirely possible Reich hires him in Carolina or stays put in Philadelphia in a more permanent role, but his name is one to watch. 
• Scott Milanovich: currently on the Colts’ staff, but like Brady has a deep history working with QBs (mostly in the CFL) in offenses that implement the RPO. Also crossed over with Saleh & Hackett in Jacksonville. 
• Klint Kubiak: there’s a lot of connections to our staff via Saleh and Hackett. Saleh tried hiring his dad. Has a deep history working with QBs in this offense and would be the kind of guy who drills fundamentals. 
• Pep Hamilton: similar to Kubiak and well respected. Jets have him on their list as someone of interest for a pass game role. 
• Greg Roman: his work in the run game and implementation of RPO offense is well known. He’s also a football lifer from NJ. He’s not a QB guy, but he’s created some of the most simple and explosive offenses we’ve ever seen. I’d love to see if he can mesh his offense with a more traditional WCO passing attack. 
• David Shaw: lots of connections in the Jets front office and there’s a lot of respect for him. Well versed in the WCO and could be more of a Gregg Knapp like presence who works to support the coaches and QBs in a more loose senior role. 
• Pat Shurmur: less high profile but similar kind of versatile veteran Jets had in mind in Knapp. Jets had him on their list for senior assistant a few weeks ago.
• Greg Olson: apparently doesn’t want to leave the west coast but worth mentioning. 

Other names… 

• Jay Gruden
• Ben McAdoo
• Rick Dennison
• Jay Gruden 
• Joe Lombardi 
• Shane Day 
• John Donovan 

 

 

I was going to mention Milanovich & Gruden as options. 

Gruden, Hackett & Middleton were all on Jon’s TB staff ‘06. 
Milanovich, Middleton & Hackett in Jax same time. 

I can see Kubiak as QB/PGC. Calabrese could be reassigned as Asst QB coach  

Shurmur, Roman or Shaw would be a good get for Sr O Asst 

[maury77]

10 hours ago, C Mart said:

I was going to mention Milanovich & Gruden as options. 

Gruden, Hackett & Middleton were all on Jon’s TB staff ‘06. 
Milanovich, Middleton & Hackett in Jax same time. 

I can see Kubiak as QB/PGC. Calabrese could be reassigned as Asst QB coach  

Shurmur, Roman or Shaw would be a good get for Sr O Asst 

Assuming the list you are working off of is accurate, Kubiak makes a lot of sense since he already interviewed with the Jets and was on Hackett's staff in Denver, but wouldn't he already have the job if he was a serious candidate? The Carter hiring was announced at the same time as Hackett. 

[C Mart]

1 hour ago, maury77 said:

Assuming the list you are working off of is accurate, Kubiak makes a lot of sense since he already interviewed with the Jets and was on Hackett's staff in Denver, but wouldn't he already have the job if he was a serious candidate? The Carter hiring was announced at the same time as Hackett. 

Good question.  I think the OL hire was announced because Saleh was afraid he’d get hired elsewhere. 

[football guy]

1 hour ago, C Mart said:

Good question.  I think the OL hire was announced because Saleh was afraid he’d get hired elsewhere. 

1) OL hire was more of a Saleh/Douglas decision. I don't want to say it they forced Carter onto candidates, but my sense is they selected him before finalizing the OC hire, knowing that his OL scheme would've worked with a number of finalists. Look into it however you choose to. 

2) The remaining slots are still vacant because candidates are (1) evaluating other opportunities and still in the running for OC jobs; and/or (2) still in the playoffs. They'll want to give Hackett an opportunity to interview candidates for the remaining roles given how they impact the QBs and passing game, and coaches for SF/PHI/CIN/KC are not be permitted to interview until next week. 

[T0mShane]

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

How Jetlike.  Kellen Moore might get fired too in Dallas.

He’d have been a huge get for Saleh.

Jets had one of the worst offenses in ‘22 and (IMO) just downgraded at OC.

[undertow]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

nepotism