sciond Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Look at at how many hits he causes his teammates to take based on sh*tty throws. Surprised he did not get punched in the mouth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Literally a free rusher running in at him on pretty much every bad throw, you can make a video like this for every quarterback in the nfl! simply YouTube “player name” lowlights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 12 hours ago, heymangold said: The first play - look how open every other receiver is - and he short hops it to the rb that’s covered. It’s all MLFs fault!! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, JiFields said: If only Lil Mikey spent more time w/ him and was nicer to him, he could complete passes to wide open receivers 10 feet away from him... Exactly Can’t believe Steve Young actually tried to make this argument If a temporary cold shoulder from the OC is enough to send ZW into Chuck Knoblauch choke mode, what is there left to even debate Obviously, he’a not the guy Doesn’t even have the mental toughness to overcome a bit of honest criticism in the film room 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I tried but it's too damn painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I couldn't get through more than a minute of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 that video is brutal and NEVER ending 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I watched a 2022 lowlights video (not sure it was this one) and was shocked at the number of bad throws in the 1st half of the Steelers game. The ones that bother me most are the huge amount of times he simply launches one throwing his whole body into it with his right shoulder being all the way upfield and his left shoulder in line behind it. Most of those throws did not go more than 40 yards. Those were generally the roll-outs that people thought he was "successful" at. He has an arm, he should use it. If I were OC I'd have made him drop back and throw immediately. 3 steps and BOOM. Even if you pick the wrong guy, at least you should develop some decent habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, JiFields said: If only Lil Mikey spent more time w/ him and was nicer to him, he could complete passes to wide open receivers 10 feet away from him... sadly this is only a few games from this year... a video of all of these bad throws may be as long as a real game. and im not saying that jokingly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, #27TheDominator said: I watched a 2022 lowlights video (not sure it was this one) and was shocked at the number of bad throws in the 1st half of the Steelers game. The ones that bother me most are the huge amount of times he simply launches one throwing his whole body into it with his right shoulder being all the way upfield and his left shoulder in line behind it. Most of those throws did not go more than 40 yards. Those were generally the roll-outs that people thought he was "successful" at. He has an arm, he should use it. If I were OC I'd have made him drop back and throw immediately. 3 steps and BOOM. Even if you pick the wrong guy, at least you should develop some decent habits. that game was bad, and completely bailed out by the last 9 mins of the 4th quarter, yet no one wants to acknowledge that. the article that was posted on the board said something to the effect of "MLF wanted Zach to go to first read, then 2nd and if nothing was there to run" - seems like MLF was on this to a degree if that article is truthful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I watched a 2022 lowlights video (not sure it was this one) and was shocked at the number of bad throws in the 1st half of the Steelers game. The ones that bother me most are the huge amount of times he simply launches one throwing his whole body into it with his right shoulder being all the way upfield and his left shoulder in line behind it. Most of those throws did not go more than 40 yards. Those were generally the roll-outs that people thought he was "successful" at. He has an arm, he should use it. If I were OC I'd have made him drop back and throw immediately. 3 steps and BOOM. Even if you pick the wrong guy, at least you should develop some decent habits. This is exactly what they did in the Buffalo game, and he actually did a pretty good job with it. I never understood why we went away from that the very next game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Funny, Joe Douglas drafted him and Robert Saleh started him. Where's the video of them high fiving each other on draft night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: This is exactly what they did in the Buffalo game, and he actually did a pretty good job with it. I never understood why we went away from that the very next game I'm not sure. If I had to guess it would be because BB (is a scumbag) is a master at 1. disguising the D, so Zach would be lost on what his read should be and 2. because the Patriots can often guess the 1st read making them more likely to jump it. I think the Bills were a physical match up. We beat the Patriots up and down the field the first game. Basically seemed like we could practically impose our will. I'm not sure they were prepared for what a disaster that 2nd game would be and still if it weren't for the punt return they'd have been in OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 14 hours ago, Jetsfan_always said: Probably the most telling thing is how frustrated the receivers are as a result of the consistently terrible throws. Don't they have him throwing routes in practice? "Zach Wilson's worst throws of the second half of 2022 season" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 99% of the organization that isn't named Joe Douglas would move on from him in a heartbeat if they could. They can't. At 9.5M, he'll be one of the most expensive backups / 3rd stringers in the league in terms of cap hit. And he's uncuttable. Would mean 20.77M in dead cap. No team on planet Earth would trade for him to be their starter. They're stuck with a bad contract for a bad player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It’s tough to defend zwilsons play. He hasn’t played the position very well. But it’s also not like mfw and Flacco were lighting it up either. Sure we all saw better movement from the offense with mfw but the name of the game is to score points and they didn’t do that very well. no telling who the oc will be. I hope that the guy gives an honest assessment on zwilson and makes sure saleh and Douglas no before they sign another qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: 99% of the organization that isn't named Joe Douglas would move on from him in a heartbeat if they could. They can't. At 9.5M, he'll be one of the most expensive backups / 3rd stringers in the league in terms of cap hit. And he's uncuttable. Would mean 20.77M in dead cap. No team on planet Earth would trade for him to be their starter. They're stuck with a bad contract for a bad player. After watching that video it's fair to wonder what jd is looking at when he scouts qbs Imagine they bottom out next year (not hard to do) and they have another high pick. Why would anyone trust this guy with another bite at the apple? James Morgan, Joe Flacco, Mike white, Chris Streveler and of course Zach. There are 14 year olds playing madden on the Playstation that could scout qbs better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Exactly Can’t believe Steve Young actually tried to make this argument If a temporary cold shoulder from the OC is enough to send ZW into Chuck Knoblauch choke mode, what is there left to even debate Obviously, he’a not the guy Doesn’t even have the mental toughness to overcome a bit of honest criticism in the film room The sad thing is that he's a worse teammate than he is a qb. That whole "I'll make the next guys life hell" thing? If Elijah Moore said it we'd be killing him in the media He gets benched and sulks on the sideline like a sith lord It's not just that he's a bad qb he's also a terrible person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: After watching that video it's fair to wonder what jd is looking at when he scouts qbs Imagine they bottom out next year (not hard to do) and they have another high pick. Why would anyone trust this guy with another bite at the apple? James Morgan, Joe Flacco, Mike white, Chris Streveler and of course Zach. There are 14 year olds playing madden on the Playstation that could scout qbs better. Wrong question about Joe. Right question is what he was eating. Fat guys like us closed our eyes when taking bite of deliciousness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I'm not sure. If I had to guess it would be because BB (is a scumbag) is a master at 1. disguising the D, so Zach would be lost on what his read should be and 2. because the Patriots can often guess the 1st read making them more likely to jump it. I think the Bills were a physical match up. We beat the Patriots up and down the field the first game. Basically seemed like we could practically impose our will. I'm not sure they were prepared for what a disaster that 2nd game would be and still if it weren't for the punt return they'd have been in OT. Probably for NE, but for Detroit they completely got away from it as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: 99% of the organization that isn't named Joe Douglas would move on from him in a heartbeat if they could. They can't. At 9.5M, he'll be one of the most expensive backups / 3rd stringers in the league in terms of cap hit. And he's uncuttable. Would mean 20.77M in dead cap. No team on planet Earth would trade for him to be their starter. They're stuck with a bad contract for a bad player. JETS have to hope that whatever OC we bring in can make Zachenberg look good in the preseason to get any type of trade value for him. that's the only way. he's gotta light up preseason and pretty much have a game plan written for that. all 4 plays of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Once they decided Sam wasn't the guy, they really didn't have much to choose from. Zack? Trey? Fields? none of them were hired killers. There doesn't seem to be a Mahomes or a Watson they missed on. Maybe keeping Sam and trading #2 for a boat load might have been the best move amongst not-so-great moves available to them. It almost doesn't matter which way JoeD went, it wasn't going to be pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: 99% of the organization that isn't named Joe Douglas would move on from him in a heartbeat if they could. They can't. At 9.5M, he'll be one of the most expensive backups / 3rd stringers in the league in terms of cap hit. And he's uncuttable. Would mean 20.77M in dead cap. No team on planet Earth would trade for him to be their starter. They're stuck with a bad contract for a bad player. This seems like a strange theory. Everybody would move on except for Joe Douglas, but they can't move on because of the cost. How/why do you think that Douglas does not want to move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, bitonti said: The sad thing is that he's a worse teammate than he is a qb. That whole "I'll make the next guys life hell" thing? If Elijah Moore said it we'd be killing him in the media He gets benched and sulks on the sideline like a sith lord It's not just that he's a bad qb he's also a terrible person His teammates (excluding his boy friend Berrios) don't like him on a professional level. That much is certain. Starting him again will cause a major upheaval among the players in the Florham Park building. It won't be pretty. Best solution... get an Vet who can withstand injury so that we never have to see Zach i a regular season game again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It's not hard to understand how the entire team totally collapsed under the weight of both injuries but even moreso the total loss of morale watching this guy suck eggs in practice every day and thinking is this really our best option to win on Sundays. Going into this season with Wilson, Flacco and Mike White (who also wasn't looking very good in training camp) is criminal negligence far greater than whiffing on the Wilson pick ever was. Can't even imagine the looks on faces and back room discussions from both sides of the ball wondering what the hell we were doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Once they decided Sam wasn't the guy, they really didn't have much to choose from. Zack? Trey? Fields? none of them were hired killers. There doesn't seem to be a Mahomes or a Watson they missed on. Maybe keeping Sam and trading #2 for a boat load might have been the best move amongst not-so-great moves available to them. It almost doesn't matter which way JoeD went, it wasn't going to be pretty. Zach wilson makes Sam Darnold look like Joe Montana This video has 7 minutes of bad throws from only 4 games It's not as bad as everyone says it's worse 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dcat said: His teammates (excluding his boy friend Berrios) don't like him on a professional level. That much is certain. Starting him again will cause a major upheaval among the players in the Florham Park building. It won't be pretty. Best solution... get an Vet who can withstand injury so that we never have to see Zach i a regular season game again. The players were force fed Zach for 22 starts they are used to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 He was better as a rookie. Watch the video before expecting me to reply to a comment please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, bitonti said: After watching that video it's fair to wonder what jd is looking at when he scouts qbs Imagine they bottom out next year (not hard to do) and they have another high pick. Why would anyone trust this guy with another bite at the apple? James Morgan, Joe Flacco, Mike white, Chris Streveler and of course Zach. There are 14 year olds playing madden on the Playstation that could scout qbs better. It’s a fair question and one that Woody and Christopher should be asking. But if Douglas is fired, what then? Bring back Ron Wolf and Toupee Boy to “consult” and end up with Little Macc? Or re-hire Korn / Ferry and end up with another Calvin Pryor drafter? It always feels hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Larz said: He was better as a rookie. Watch the video before expecting me to reply to a comment please There’s talent there. It’s a shame he mean never work out. But can definitely see the arm talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Zach wilson makes Sam Darnold look like Joe Montana This video has 7 minutes of bad throws from only 4 games It's not as bad as everyone says it's worse Yeah but Chris simms said 3 years ago he was better than Trevor Lawrence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: There’s talent there. It’s a shame he mean never work out. But can definitely see the arm talent He’s JP Losman/Kellen Clemens — has arm strength and basically nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, VJphillyfan said: He’s JP Losman/Kellen Clemens — has arm strength and basically nothing else I can’t defend him. He’s tape is his tape. Sucks cause his release and arm are special. Unfortunately he’s got nothing else. But I also don’t go with a lot of what’s being said about him on these forums. He’s a bad player, don’t know if he’s a bad team mate, person and whatever other things are throw around on here cause he’s bad at football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It's not that he is inaccurate when pressured, it's how inaccurate he is when he has time! Even when he steps into a throw he seems to be pulling back needlessly. His legs move forward as his torso drifts back. It's actually impressive how broken his throwing motion has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 hours ago, bitonti said: After watching that video it's fair to wonder what jd is looking at when he scouts qbs Imagine they bottom out next year (not hard to do) and they have another high pick. Why would anyone trust this guy with another bite at the apple? James Morgan, Joe Flacco, Mike white, Chris Streveler and of course Zach. There are 14 year olds playing madden on the Playstation that could scout qbs better. Dude idk what’s happened to you. Youre over the too negative since u returned. But my point here is the lowlights video are NOT his highlight video from college. Zach was the #2-4 qb on EVERYONES board Zach would NEVER have made it past the first round if the jets passed So your comments and many other posters comments have the benefit of hindsight. Be fair Zachs a huge bust. Ok. Sucks but its not like we drafted some unknown dude that may have been an udfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.