Zach Wilson was often late and goofing off in meetings

[Jet Blast]

41 minutes ago, football guy said:

I would agree that both Douglas and Saleh are in over their heads. They probably need a miracle

I didn't expect to hear anything like this from you, of all posters.

I always appreciate all the inside info you give us and your level-headedness in this often reactionary forum. Consequently, to hear this from you scares the bejeebers out of me! 

 

[BP]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

I must say, Dov Kleiman sounds like a name created by ChatGPT

It’s a Jewish/Israeli name. I have a customer with that exact same name.

[Embrace the Suck]

MidtownP

· 25 days ago

"Piece of sh*t Patriots fan. Was fired from local Pats coverage (I think, or maybe NBCSN up there) and is now independent because no one wants to deal with his clown ass."

[football guy]

6 minutes ago, y2k8 said:

The sad thing is they are the most competent GM/HC duo we've had since Tanny/Rex - and that's not exactly high praise.

Like going from Darnold to Wilson, things can actually get much worse after a housecleaning.

 

I agree. By no means do I want them gone, but I've seen this story so many times by now. Team is on thin ice and I think this theory that a QB will solve all our issues is misguided. Any number of things can go wrong next year that will result in the team not reaching lofty expectations

[Pac]

44 minutes ago, football guy said:

I would agree that both Douglas and Saleh are in over their heads. They probably need a miracle

You ask for a miracle?  I give you Shad O'Chea.. 

 

[#27TheDominator]

2 minutes ago, football guy said:

I agree. By no means do I want them gone, but I've seen this story so many times by now. Team is on thin ice and I think this theory that a QB will solve all our issues is misguided. Any number of things can go wrong next year that will result in the team not reaching lofty expectations

There is some truth to this, but I would not call 9-8 and the wild card round "lofty expectations.,"

[maury77]

59 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Wilson partying in a luxury suite and away from the team during a game is not a non story no matter how hard you want to spin it. He’s been given special rules and it’s obviously pissed off the team. Why you’re running cover for him is strange.

It’s because he’s Zach’s dad.

[FactsOnly]

FALSE

[JETS SB]

Word has it, the M f’n White T-shirts originated from this event. After the 10-3 loss to the Patriots, Elijah Moore told Zach Wilson that he is a terrible QB, then several other players circled around Zach and started taunting him, telling him that his mom was a whore. Zach cried and told MLF what happened and apparently MLF said, “Well, is she?” And then Zach went to Robert Saleh and he said, “Don’t worry Zach, we will get to the bottom of this.” Meanwhile that night, several Jets surrounded him and gave him a noogie. Saleh saw this and realized he had to do something and benched him for Mike White. Once announced, players lifted Mike and carried him around the locker room singing “We are the champions”. MLF decided to order M f’n White T-shirts for everyone, to cover up how terrible of a play caller he was, and figured he would jump on the M f’n White bandwagon. Robert Saleh refused to wear the t-shirt, saying “bullying is not tolerated in this locker room.” The only player to come to Zach Wilson’s defense was James Robinson, who was consequently benched and deactivated for the remainder of the year. Word has it. 

[TommyT]

I heard through some reliable sources that Zach had pizza delivered during meetings as well.

[FactsOnly]

1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

What makes it fake?

THE TRUTH

[freestater]

5 minutes ago, TommyT said:

I heard through some reliable sources that Zach had pizza delivered during meetings as well.

[LockeJET]

12 minutes ago, Pac said:

You ask for a miracle?  I give you Shad O'Chea.. 

 

I’d rather have Chad O’Shea Cinco

[football guy]

13 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

There is some truth to this, but I would not call 9-8 and the wild card round "lofty expectations.,"

I don’t think a 9-8 season would save them minus a deep playoff run. Everyone in the organization is saying there is no mandate and that Douglas/Saleh are here for the long run, but color me skeptical. 

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, football guy said:

I don’t think a 9-8 season would save them minus a deep playoff run. Everyone in the organization is saying there is no mandate and that Douglas/Saleh are here for the long run, but color me skeptical. 

So you think they could be let go after making the playoffs for the first time in 12 years? That would shock me since it could so easily be looked at as progress. 

[football guy]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

So you think they could be let go after making the playoffs for the first time in 12 years? That would shock me since it could so easily be looked at as progress. 

If they start out hot again, collapse, and back into the playoffs yes. I think Woody truly believes there is championship-caliber talent on this roster and I think he believes this team should make the playoffs convincingly. I may be wrong that's just my perspective

[Charlie Brown]

1 hour ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!

Hmmmmmmmm

Did WE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wit]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

I must say, Dov Kleiman sounds like a name created by ChatGPT

As a Jew, can confirm this is a VERY jewish name. 

[BP]

20 minutes ago, football guy said:

I agree. By no means do I want them gone, but I've seen this story so many times by now. Team is on thin ice and I think this theory that a QB will solve all our issues is misguided. Any number of things can go wrong next year that will result in the team not reaching lofty expectations

The team proved this year that they can’t handle adversity. Wilson and saleh both had horrible performances against the lions and 4 days later it’s circus night at MetLife during warmups and they didn’t show up to play. There seems to be a huge disconnect between the players and coaches. And The divide amongst the players is troubling.

[#27TheDominator]

1 minute ago, football guy said:

If they start out hot again, collapse, and back into the playoffs yes. I think Woody truly believes there is championship-caliber talent on this roster and I think he believes this team should make the playoffs convincingly. I may be wrong that's just my perspective

Then Woody is an idiot.  Then again, I guess we all knew that.

[RoadFan]

29 minutes ago, Pac said:

You ask for a miracle?  I give you Shad O'Chea.. 

 

 

Which one is Chad O’Shea?

[St Louie Jet Fan]

1 hour ago, undertow said:

My sources tell me Zippy hit MLF with a spitball the day before Moore told him to go F himself

Based on his career stats, theres only a 55.2% chance he actually hit MLF.

[choon328]

Anybody who thinks Zach Wilson was a film junkie that worked harder than anybody and then watched how he performed on the field, (i.e. trying to hand the ball off on a pass play), if just kidding themselves. He's not a hard worker, that's obvious. 

[Rangers9]

I don’t know how true any of this is probably some of it. Teams usually don’t countenance players being late for meetings so not sure how true that part is esp for a younger player not performing well. Last year we saw pics of Zach hanging out with teammates and heard no stories of anyone hating on him. As for pranks on teammates a lot of guys do that including star players. So for 2023 if Zach comes in with a better attitude and starts improving a lot on the field his distractors on the team might come around. If he throws balls to them instead of behind them things could change fast. 

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Zach Wilson is the biggest bully and worst person ever. 

No, Zach is just a c*nt.

he is as shocked as anyone else that he is still in the NFL.

[undertow]

4 minutes ago, St Louie Jet Fan said:

Based on his career stats, theres only a 55.2% chance he actually hit MLF.

Josh Allen wasn't good at spitball till his third year either.

[Beerfish]

Who knows if this is true or not.  Just pulling stuff of the net with not verification is not truth these days.

Having said that, if it is true the jets have themselves to blame for making the same mistakes as past regimes and just handing young QB the job with no one to legit make him work for his job and no viable back up plan.

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Can we get Douglas and Saleh back at the podium to speak to this please. What a joke.

when asked you proved the information we were told it was captain obvious.

[BornJetsFan1983]

7 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Who knows if this is true or not.  Just pulling stuff of the net with not verification is not truth these days.

Having said that, if it is true the jets have themselves to blame for making the same mistakes as past regimes and just handing young QB the job with no one to legit make him work for his job and no viable back up plan.

is this real?

they did everything right withZach, playmakers, new offense, gave him time to heal etc...just didnt work out cause he sucks.

[BornJetsFan1983]

13 minutes ago, undertow said:

Josh Allen wasn't good at spitball till his third year either.

He was decent his first two years and took a leap wiht talent. We were hoping for that leap with garret wilson and breece hall, unfortunately he never got better.

[Thai Jet]

2 hours ago, SCRUNO said:

Zach Wilson reportedly put thumb tacks on teammates chairs prior to meetings.

Big deal. I did the exact same thing when I was 8. 

[choon328]

Are people really shocked that a rich, entitled white kid who never had to work hard for much in life is arrogant, lazy and expects to be handed everything?

Steve Young is a close family friend and he said that a coach needs to baby Zach in order to bring the best out of him. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about his family and his feelings of entitlement I'm not sure what will. 

There was a reason Zach Wilson looked extremely uncomfortable and out of place on that stage during that 1st round photo. It's bc he could not relate to a single person on that stage and I'm sure it's the same way in the locker room. 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

I don’t care if he’s a jerk or not. I care that the Jets decision makers continually strike out on identifying personality traits pre draft. 

I guess the Jets need a new Myers Briggs expert to make sure the next QB's personality traits mesh with the coaches and teammates.  

If we are judging personalities, better stay far far away from Brady and Rodgers, both of whom are complete a$$hol#s.  

Are we judging football players or choosing Miss Congeniality?  Everything we heard about the kid was that he was dedicated and hard working, so your OP sounds like BS.  The issues with him were about his on the field performance (and not helped with that post game press conference after NE II). 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Can we get Douglas and Saleh back at the podium to speak to this please. What a joke.

This is a football team, not a reality TV show. Everything that happens does not need to be streamed to the fan base.  Unreal.  

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

“Nobody works harder”

”Kid is made of the right stuff”

Also:

”Zach just needs a beach to take some time to evaluate what’s really important to him.”