JetsAddict Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Says Zach makes the hard look easy and the easy look hard. If he can figure out how to make the easy look easy he can be good 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 What does Steve and the Giants know about playing QB? MLF said he diddnt need to dumb it down because Zach was so advanced. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VJphillyfan Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 Steve Young manages Zach’s finances. He should recuse himself from speaking on Zach Wilson. 3 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 Steve Young is your typical Zach truther....was riding his nuts for two years telling everyone to shut up he's fine until like two months ago when he finally realized he shouldn't be on the field...these people should really be banned from having opinions for a season. lol 9 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hal N of Provo Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Steve Young manages Zach’s finances. He should recuse himself from speaking on Zach Wilson. Steve Young had a rocky start and became a HoF QB with some crazy good seasons. He might be one of the most important voices to listen to. I say this as an impartial observer. 5 1 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Great player, very good commentator but should not be taken seriously when discussing Zach. They're BYU buddies. Steve is going to defend the indefensible when it comes to Zach. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: What does Steve and the Giants know about playing QB? MLF said he diddnt need to dumb it down because Zach was so advanced. Now the narrative is this wasn't said and that Zach wasn't preparing, it is a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Charlie Brown said: Now the narrative is this wasn't said and that Zach wasn't preparing, it is a joke! When it comes to NFL QBs the narrative is so fickle and turns so fast. “Baker is amazing” to off the team lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, undertow said: Steve Young is your typical Zach truther....was riding his nuts for two years telling everyone to shut up he's fine until like two months ago when he finally realized he shouldn't be on the field...these people should really be banned from having opinions for a season. lol You described 90% of sports media pundits. This literal effing clown Orlovsky on ESPN was a huge Zach Wilson guy 2 years ago and now is blasting Zach nonstop on that garbage show he’s on The only guys in the media who expressed any doubt about Zach before the draft were Cowherd and Stephen A Smith. Cowherd got ripped for saying negative stuff about Zach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, JetsAddict said: Says Zach makes the hard look easy and the easy look hard. If he can figure out how to make the easy look easy he can be good Instead of just talking about how successful Zach "can" be, Young should take a Truly Personal interest in Zachs success... He should tutor him this offseason and reap the fruits of his labor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, VJphillyfan said: You described 90% of sports media pundits. This literal effing clown Orlovsky on ESPN was a huge Zach Wilson guy 2 years ago and now is blasting Zach nonstop on that garbage show he’s on The only guys in the media who expressed any doubt about Zach before the draft were Cowherd and Stephen A Smith. Cowherd got ripped for saying negative stuff about Zach The Zach Wilson narrative changed in the blink of an eye imagine if Breece Hall didn't get hurt people will still be fanboying him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, undertow said: The Zach Wilson narrative changed in the blink of an eye imagine if Breece Hall didn't get hurt people will still be fanboying him. The Zach Cucks are acting like he won league mvp because he fell into a 5-4 record this year thanks to the defense and Hall 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 I, honestly, don’t care what Wilson’s borderline uncle has to say about him. Can Zach’s remaining cheerleaders stop trying to pump him up please? 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: I, honestly, don’t care. Can Zach’s remaining cheerleaders stop trying to pump him up please? The haters too then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, JetsAddict said: Says Zach makes the hard look easy and the easy look hard. If he can figure out how to make the easy look easy he can be good Funny. Bart Scott said that same thing over a month ago 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 “If he could just make the easy throws…” If…one word that truly defines a canyon sized difference between reality and fiction. If I was wealthy I’d buy the New York Jets. I am not wealthy so I bitch about the New York Jets online. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, AFJF said: Great player, very good commentator but should not be taken seriously when discussing Zach. They're BYU buddies. Steve is going to defend the indefensible when it comes to Zach. It’s a little embarrassing at this point a player as good as young was should know how lame these excuses sound. the guy was the second overall pick and was given a top 5 defense and Garrett Wilson in year 2. There’s no excuse for being this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: The haters too then? Sure thing. The less I can hear about the guy, the better. VJ/Phil/whatever it wants to call itself nowadays is just as annoying. 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: The haters too then? To be fair, the “haters” on this board are just fed up jets fans who want to see this team be good again before they die. When he’s off the team (or magically becomes good next year), everyone will be happy 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I, honestly, don’t care what Wilson’s borderline uncle has to say about him. Can Zach’s remaining cheerleaders stop trying to pump him up please? They’re close, but not this close. It’s a close professional relationship. Either way, he’s clearly biased but idk why this is so controversial… I think we can all recognize that Zach would be a very good QB if he were able to do “the easy things” while pairing that with his playmaking ability. Mike LaFleur was one of his biggest supporters for that reason… he felt Zach could be a Mahomes-level player if he was “Mike White 80% of the time”, problem was they couldn’t figure out how to get it out of him. The question is whether he’ll ever be able to figure it out. Those who are close to the situation believe he’ll eventually figure it out a la Alex Smith/Geno Smith because the ability and work ethic are there. Others believe he doesn’t have the head or mental toughness to ever be a team’s starter. Neither side is wrong. Time will tell, but I think we can all agree the Jets need to add a veteran QB that can start and win games now. They have no idea who Zach will be come June. If he doesn’t recover then you make a decision to either hold him as a backup/3rd string or just move him before the season. If he looks good and has regained confidence then you have a great problem. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Steve is too close to the situation to really be objective but thanks Steve we’ve been talking about the easy throws since his rookie year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, football guy said: They’re close, but not this close. It’s a close professional relationship. Either way, he’s clearly biased but idk why this is so controversial… I think we can all recognize that Zach would be a very good QB if he were able to do “the easy things” while pairing that with his playmaking ability. Mike LaFleur was one of his biggest supporters for that reason… he felt Zach could be a Mahomes-level player if he was “Mike White 80% of the time”, problem was they couldn’t figure out how to get it out of him. The question is whether he’ll ever be able to figure it out. Those who are close to the situation believe he’ll eventually figure it out a la Alex Smith/Geno Smith because the ability and work ethic are there. Others believe he doesn’t have the head or mental toughness to ever be a team’s starter. Neither side is wrong. Time will tell, but I think we can all agree the Jets need to add a veteran QB that can start and win games now. They have no idea who Zach will be come June. If he doesn’t recover then you make a decision to either hold him as a backup/3rd string or just move him before the season. If he looks good and has regained confidence then you have a great problem. I agree…I’m just so over it man. I just want a QB :(. It’s so frustrating. I don’t want to hear Young anymore. I want to see good QB play. Ironically, when I did my pre draft write up/blog, Alex Smith (pre Harbaugh)was my “worst case scenario” for Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, C Mart said: Funny. Bart Scott said that same thing over a month ago And I think Bart and Young have seen and played more NFL football than pretty much everyone here. Wilson might well be the worst QB I have ever seen from the pocket. He bounces or overthrows screens, every pass is thrown at 100 mph. His mechanics are broken probably beyond repair. The simple stuff he makes look ridiculously hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: I agree…I’m just so over it man. I just want a QB :(. It’s so frustrating. What? One Shoulder Pennington, Brooks Bollinger, Kellen Clemens, One Arm Favre, Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Matt Simms, Geno Smith, Old Mike Vick, Tajh Boy, Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenberg, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown, Sam Darnold, Luke Falk, Zack Wilson, Mike White, Josh Johnson, Old Joe Flacco, and Mike Steveler aren’t good enough for you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The easy throws and the short passing game you’d think are fixable. If not then he has a prob. And btw what happened in practice. When he overthrows receivers 5 yards away. You’d think the CS would be having drills on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 FACTS ONLY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Zach with a competent OC = Trevor Lawrence 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, VJphillyfan said: You described 90% of sports media pundits. This literal effing clown Orlovsky on ESPN was a huge Zach Wilson guy 2 years ago and now is blasting Zach nonstop on that garbage show he’s on The only guys in the media who expressed any doubt about Zach before the draft were Cowherd and Stephen A Smith. Cowherd got ripped for saying negative stuff about Zach And yet you all wonder how JD blew this pick so badly Maybe it's because 90% of people thought that would be a good pick at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Hex said: And yet you all wonder how JD blew this pick so badly Maybe it's because 90% of people thought that would be a good pick at the time? It was all those great games Wilson had in college facing elite competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 If Zach could stop being terrible and be good, boy howdy. Look out. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, FactsOnly said: FACTS ONLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, FactsOnly said: Zach with a competent OC = Trevor Lawrence In your dreams Chris 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 The sooner Mormon Josh Rosen is cut and out of the league, and I don't have to hear about him ever again, the better. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Wow another Zach Wilson sucks thread with VJphillyfan posting 17 times. Refreshing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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