Jet Nut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Rodgers was playing for a playoff spot in week 18 against the Lions and put up worse numbers against that putrid defense than Zach Wilson did three weeks prior And? What’s that mean, Zach is better than Rodgers? Or Rodgers would offer no more than rolling Zach out again? Think most would disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And? What’s that mean, Zach is better than Rodgers? Or Rodgers would offer no more than rolling Zach out again? Think most would disagree You said that the Jets were close to a playoff spot and Aaron Rodgers would have put them over the top. I’m simply pointing out that Rodgers had a win and in game against a Lions team that had nothing to play for and he did not put them over the top 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And? What’s that mean, Zach is better than Rodgers? Or Rodgers would offer no more than rolling Zach out again? Think most would disagree You really needed that explained to you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, pointman said: I wonder if other boards for fans of teams who can't even sniff the playoffs are talking about landing every damn QB option out there. Happens all the time, we’re in a rebuild, show a little hope, then everyone wants to bail on rebuild and get a star QB, when we don’t even have a coach, we still need a lot of weapons but hey let’s spend 40mil on a Qb in his last years so our drafts are middle of the pack where no franchise qbs ever are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: We get Rodgers and the rest of the league will eat our dust!!! The official slogan will be Kiss my grits. Going with the Mel's Diner throwback. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, bitonti said: The Jets are like 3 million over the cap right now They don't have room for Rodgers. I'm not sure how they make that work The Jets have $100 mllion in cap space in 2024, more than that in 2025. If they wanted to they could get to over $100 million in cap space this offseason by pushing money into future years. The Jets could sign anybody they want this offseason with no problem as long as the bulk of the money is in future years. Worrying about cap space is silly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 54 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You said that the Jets were close to a playoff spot and Aaron Rodgers would have put them over the top. I’m simply pointing out that Rodgers had a win and in game against a Lions team that had nothing to play for and he did not put them over the top Imagine picking up his salary and giving up draft capital to watch Aaron Rodgers lose to Mike White led Dolphins to miss the playoffs? #TAKEFLIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, BurntDice said: Those years around 50 mil are pretty scary. High guarantees? He’ll be like 42 then. He also seems to have a idgaf attitude nowadays Those years around $50MM aren't real. Not real in that it's worse than that. They're worse because he's not actually going to be under contract those years at that money. They're fake, with (in round #s) about $30MM counting from past option bonuses, and $20MM in new salary. Except he's not going to play for $20MM if he's still worth having (ffs 2 years earlier he's already talked about walking away when he's got $110MM coming to him over the upcoming 2 seasons; walking away from $45MM over the 2 seasons after that is a relative no-brainer. What'll actually happen is he'll be either retiring (read: quit), which will bring his 2025 cap number to about $60MM and he's not on the roster anymore; or he'll be forcing his new team to double that salary number to some $40-50MM again, raising those last two ~$50MM cap #s by another $20-30MM apiece Given the Jets' cap situation, and my desired to be entertained by the NYJ scoring points, I still make this deal for this insufferable douchebag (depending on the picks it'd take to get him, of course; looking for a GB salary dump). It's another terrible article, to leave the above out of it when that is the biggest cap concern of all in the whole deal, and it isn't even addressed despite the article's length. His actual cap #s for a new team would likely be: 2023: $15.8MM 2024: $32.5MM 2025: either: $61MM and isn't on the roster anymore, or $70-80MM and he is on the roster 2026: (approximately a repeat of 2025; not that much different) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Hell no, I'm not paying a king's ransom in cap + picks for a 40yo retiree wannabe. See Sperm's post above. It would cripple this franchise a few years down the road. Two years of Rodgers would cripple us. I'd do my full court press for Carr instead who might be a long term answer as opposed to a 2 year rental. This Rodgers talk is insane. IMHO we could ride almost any top 18 QB to the post season so why mortgage the future? JD, please, just say no to Rodgers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: You said that the Jets were close to a playoff spot and Aaron Rodgers would have put them over the top. I’m simply pointing out that Rodgers had a win and in game against a Lions team that had nothing to play for and he did not put them over the top I know, I hear you but he didn’t piss the game away. The Packers were not a good team and we’re trying to complete a miracle by making the playoffs. The miracle that only would be possible because Rodgers led them on a 4 game winning streak leading into that Lions game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, playtowinthegame said: Imagine picking up his salary and giving up draft capital to watch Aaron Rodgers lose to Mike White led Dolphins to miss the playoffs? #TAKEFLIGHT Imagine not upgrading the QB position at all and winning 5 games next year. Actually, you don't have to imagine that bc the Jets have been doing it for a decade + 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: I know, I hear you but he didn’t piss the game away. The Packers were not a good team and we’re trying to complete a miracle by making the playoffs. The miracle that only would be possible because Rodgers led them on a 4 game winning streak leading into that Lions game Eh. Here are Rodgers’ stat lines from the last six games. This is the guy we think Woody Johnson will hand a check for $59.5 million to when he walks in the door (the cap hit gets spread across the four years, not the cash). 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 hours ago, JiFields said: I cant possibly think of anything that would create more positive vibes then sending the team to ayahuasca den for a week w/ Aaron Rodgers. https://www.newlifeayahuasca.com/ayahuasca-retreat Rodgers can take the whole team on his dime. LFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Eh. Here are Rodgers’ stat lines from the last six games. This is the guy we think Woody Johnson will hand a check for $59.5 million to when he walks in the door (the cap hit gets spread across the four years, not the cash). in all of those except week 18, he would have scored enough points for us to win out also playing with a broken thumb Woody wants to join the club of being considered a good owner. Win a SB. can't do it with trash at QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 hours ago, Untouchable said: We were sniffing the playoffs up until the last two weeks of the season. And the main reason we didn’t make it is because we scored a combined 15 points over the last 3 games. To say that Aaron Rodgers changes things is an understatement. I'm 66 years old and I would like to see the Jets in the SB before I cash out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 hours ago, slimjasi said: All fair, but I have my doubts about the “top-end level Qbing” you speak of. the big issue I have with Rodgers is that he’s coming off a down year at age 39 and has already talked about retirement. How many guys have a bounce back year at age 40? people will bring up Brady, but when Brady was 39, he was talking about wanting to play until age 45 and people were laughing at him. Rodgers is already talking about retirement at 39 . . . athletes tend to lose their superpowers suddenly and I just always worry about this franchise bringing in guys who are past their prime. I mean, that's all fluid though, right? Yes, you're right in that there's always the risk that he won't be able to live up to his expectations. There are varying degrees of that risk in every single transaction. Prior to this year he had two straight MVP years. Prior to the two straight MVPs, he was considered already having fallen off the cliff. If we're going off of what he's saying, he's also said that he thinks he can win MVP again. That retirement stuff has never bothered me about any athlete. Every single one of the top end athletes are driven by 1 of 2 potential things: success and money. If we bring Aaron in, and he sees a top end defense, potential top 10 WR, potential top 10 RB - he's going to want to play to enhance his legacy, and oh, there's an additional 50m+ other reasons for him to keep playing. He's 39 and past his prime. We agree on that. Our projections diverge. I fully believe that on a team where he'll have a strong defense taking the load off the offense, and playmakers, he'll be able to put up another 2-3 years of top 10 QBing. Short of injury, this has always been Aaron's M.O. All that being said, I still don't believe for one second that he's going to leave GB. They are not going to get the package they're looking for because they don't want to look like they're giving him away from nothing but no one is going to want to part with significant draft capital on top of taking on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 24 minutes ago, Ex-Rex said: I'm 66 years old and I would like to see the Jets in the SB before I cash out. Best chance of doing that is by bringing in a guy like Rodgers or Carr and continuing to build up the team around them. Because banking on this team to draft and develop one of those franchise-carrying guys is a fools game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Eh. Here are Rodgers’ stat lines from the last six games. This is the guy we think Woody Johnson will hand a check for $59.5 million to when he walks in the door (the cap hit gets spread across the four years, not the cash). So he gets no credit for the winning streak that got them to game 17 and losing game 17 is on the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: I mean, that's all fluid though, right? Yes, you're right in that there's always the risk that he won't be able to live up to his expectations. There are varying degrees of that risk in every single transaction. Prior to this year he had two straight MVP years. Prior to the two straight MVPs, he was considered already having fallen off the cliff. I hear you, but “prior to this year” is a long time ago when you are a 39 year old NFL QB. Listen - if we ever traded for Rodgers, a part of me would be very excited. But most of me would expect it to fail in epic fashion. I guess time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 hours ago, T0mShane said: It’d either good really well or extremely bad. This is an abomination as far as the english language is concerned.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 So here’s a rumor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/24/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-jets-offseason Aaron Rodgers and the Jets Are a Perfect Match The need for a quarterback upgrade is apparent, so look no further than the spacey 39-year-old. It’s time for New York to decide how good it would like to be in 2023. CONOR ORR 42 MINUTES AGO In this story: NEW YORK JETS GREEN BAY PACKERS You Are Reading Your 2 Of 4 Free Premium Articles Subscribe For Unlimited AccessAlready A Subscriber? Please Login Here A few years ago, I would have written this out of sickness. ADVERTISEMENT As a former Jets beat reporter, I remember what an absolutely, mystifyingly out-of-body experience being in that locker room could be. Here we were standing in the middle of a quarterback Bermuda Triangle with Tim Tebow, Mark Sanchez and Greg McElroy. We had no idea who was starting Sunday. The head coach (probably) talking about fighting someone. It was an astral projection of chaos. It was entertaining in the way being at a friend’s house in high school whose parents were routinely absent was fun. But after a while, you craved some structure and discipline. You wanted someone to tell you what to do and make you a sandwich on responsibly packaged multigrain bread. And when you have that sickness, there’s part of you that craves more sickness. Spend a ton of draft capital on an end-of-career veteran quarterback who, on the best of days, can be a bit metaphorical and spacey and on the worst of days power trips the franchise into a circuit break? Sure. Why not? How much weirder can it get? Let’s find out. But now, as we look at the actual possibility of seeing Aaron Rodgers and the Jets come together, I’m seeing through sober eyes. This is a good idea, and not in the way mixing your Gatorade and Absinthe together is a good idea. It’s actually a good idea. A get-eight-hours-of-sleep idea. An eat-a-mediterranean-diet idea. We’ve come here today to ask the Jets to see it the same way. We’ve come here to ask the Jets to go get No. 12 (the 39-year-old one, not the 46-year-old one). Rodgers led the Packers to a lackluster 8–9 record, but he could see a resurgence with another team. Jeff Hanisch/USA TODAY Sports First, I’ll address the obvious concerns. Rodgers and the Packers are coming off a disappointing season in which the quarterback seemed to have missed an abnormally large percentage of throws (to be clear, relative to the borderline perfection with which he usually operates). It took the offense months to get in rhythm. Rodgers had an avulsion fracture in his thumb. He is going to cost a great deal of money. He is going to cost a great deal of draft capital. He doesn’t have much left to prove, and there is always the risk that acquiring him has more of a Jay Cutler in Miami feel than a Tom Brady in Tampa Bay feel. Next, I’ll address the potential inevitability that, like all Rodgers offseason storylines, they will vanish into the ether in a few weeks and we’ll all get back to guessing when he’ll arrive at training camp and debating whether or not that specific date is a good idea. Like that time he was possibly going to get traded to the 49ers. Or leave to focus on Jeopardy! Or play guitar in Bon Iver. Or bat fourth for the White Sox. Rodgers is a brand that invites speculation and intrigue, whether self perpetuated or through some media byproduct. There is a good chance we’re wasting as much time talking about this as we did crashing computers on New Year’s Eve, 1999. With that out of the way, let’s get to the meat of our proposal. The Jets should take this as a massive compliment on National Compliment Day. While their season ended with a long-ish losing streak and the Zach Wilson experiment can be cautiously labeled a failure, none of this happened in a manner consistent with the franchise’s calamitous past of more than a decade ago. One could see a scenario in which it takes home offensive and defensive rookie of the year awards. It is, unquestionably, a good place to come to work every day. We wrote about it from a player perspective and a staff perspective during the 2022 season. They boast fertile ground for which a prospective quarterback would want to trod upon. Out of all the teams with obvious openings this offseason (Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, Carolina, Las Vegas, Tennessee, Houston, Washington, New Orleans and Atlanta), few of them can offer the same combination of offensive line proficiency, weapons and complementary defense. Also, Rodgers could end up being better than he was a year ago. Last year, the Packers’ offense was broken not just because of the quarterback. There were issues with rookie receivers and across the offensive line, there was a lag time in their ability to adjust schematically, the run game didn’t arrive until December, and by then, Rodgers was working with a busted hand. He represents the highest ceiling of this offseason quarterback class. Brady will be 46 next year. Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, Ryan Tannehill, Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota all seem to represent various plot points on a graph of conservative options that will yield a noticeable, but not franchise-altering improvement. Sure, one may contribute an extra win or two, but most of these players are an amalgam of the middle to upper-middle tier of the position. The Jets shouldn’t be making a move to edge into the playoffs as a No. 7 seed. They should be making a move that could result in winning the AFC East. With a healthy season, invigorated by a new place, Rodgers could break the Jets out of a Colts-ian future (frustratingly talented and well-coached, but without the requisite oomph at the quarterback position to make it over the postseason speed bump). This is a team that has not been noticeably elevated by play at the position since 2008, when it made the similarly bold choice to trade for Brett Favre. This is a team still set up to run a version of the same offense that produced back-to-back MVP seasons for Rodgers in his late 30s. Simply finding different ways to feed Garrett Wilson on time and on target would put the Jets on pace to be a top-10 offense. There is even an ayahuasca retreat and shamanic healing center a mere two hours and seven minutes from the facility that accepts and sells gift cards should the team wonder what to get him on his free agent visit (it would blow the cupcakes they tried to give Dont’a Hightower out of the water). He could live there if he wanted to and study plays on his iPad on the long car ride home like Philip Rivers in his final years with the Chargers. New Jersey is also great. It makes up for a lack of psychedelic retreats with an abundance of reasonably priced diners and pizzerias (which, depending on the day, are almost as satisfying). The choice is theirs. Rodgers has arrived in a place of openness after his own personal journey, just like I, an observer of this franchise, have arrived at mine. I can see it working in an entirely non-cynical way. No more sickness. It’s time for the Jets to take that journey of their own and decide how good they’d like to be in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 46 minutes ago, Larz said: So here’s a rumor The question is, is the GM willing to pay that price? If not, that leads to the question of how much control is Woody utilizing over the team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Do not sign this entitled prick. He can **** off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 SHOWTIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 51 minutes ago, Larz said: So here’s a rumor He said "my guess is...they want 2 first round picks" Which obviously they can F off if that were the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It's funny how 2 years ago we all wanted the Jets to build "the right way" even if it meant losing seasons now we want a washed up 39 year old who will count for 30 percent of the cap in 2 years. What happened to the "right way" All that's changed is how much time jd has left on his contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guilhermezmc Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 59 minutes ago, Larz said: So here’s a rumor holy sh*t thoses jerseys are ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: It's funny how 2 years ago we all wanted the Jets to build "the right way" even if it meant losing seasons now we want a washed up 39 year old who will count for 30 percent of the cap in 2 years. What happened to the "right way" All that's changed is how much time jd has left on his contract They did for the most part. Just failed at the most important spot. So now it's YOLO at that spot to see the rest play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Those years around $50MM aren't real. Not real in that it's worse than that 2025: either: $61MM and isn't on the roster anymore, or $70-80MM and he is on the roster 2026: (approximately a repeat of 2025; not that much different) These numbers are insane If jd does make this move it will be a blatant tactic to save his job All that talk about building the team the right way goes out the window 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: They did for the most part. Just failed at the most important spot. So now it's YOLO at that spot to see the rest play out. They failed at qb and lt the two most important spots Here's an idea maybe jd isn't such a great gm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Those years around $50MM aren't real. Not real in that it's worse than that. They're worse because he's not actually going to be under contract those years at that money. They're fake, with (in round #s) about $30MM counting from past option bonuses, and $20MM in new salary. Except he's not going to play for $20MM if he's still worth having (ffs 2 years earlier he's already talked about walking away when he's got $110MM coming to him over the upcoming 2 seasons; walking away from $45MM over the 2 seasons after that is a relative no-brainer. What'll actually happen is he'll be either retiring (read: quit), which will bring his 2025 cap number to about $60MM and he's not on the roster anymore; or he'll be forcing his new team to double that salary number to some $40-50MM again, raising those last two ~$50MM cap #s by another $20-30MM apiece Given the Jets' cap situation, and my desired to be entertained by the NYJ scoring points, I still make this deal for this insufferable douchebag (depending on the picks it'd take to get him, of course; looking for a GB salary dump). It's another terrible article, to leave the above out of it when that is the biggest cap concern of all in the whole deal, and it isn't even addressed despite the article's length. His actual cap #s for a new team would likely be: 2023: $15.8MM 2024: $32.5MM 2025: either: $61MM and isn't on the roster anymore, or $70-80MM and he is on the roster 2026: (approximately a repeat of 2025; not that much different) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, bitonti said: They failed at qb and lt the two most important spots Here's an idea maybe jd isn't such a great gm If he was that bad we wouldn't think just a QB can propel us into the playoffs and further. But here we are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Being reported that Green Bay is going to open up talks with only AFC teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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