Hackett to be hired as OC

[Tranquilo]

5 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

Josina trying to cause chaos 

Gronk?

[bla bla bla]

I'm a little surprised people are so sour on this hire. It's nothing great but what other option were you hoping for? We need an experienced OC that can risk being canned after 1 year. I think given the way we currently play, he is a good option for our current talent with the upside of maybe getting Rodgers. Either way Zach will not be QB1 so if you miss on Rodgers you can still go for Carr, Jimmy, or even Tannehill

[Guilhermezmc]

5 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

Josina trying to cause chaos 

Change that to Dandre Hopkins and we have a deal

[Asymmetrical]

Just now, batman10023 said:

there are 8 head coaches under 40 years old.  it's never been even remotely like that.

kind of disproves your point a bit.

 

I don't think its even really arguable that the NFL is full of nepotism. Like, do you think the mullet Belichick is the most qualified person to be on the Patriots sideline? Didn't we have Greggggg Williams drag his son in as linebackers coach and say something to the effect of "he's the most excellent young coach I've ever been around". 

 

To your point, there was definitely a youth movement at head coach after the Rams success. But idk if Nathaniel Hackett breaks into the league with a different last name. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Just now, Tranquilo said:

Gronk?

[JoJoTownsell1]

14 minutes ago, Paradis said:

This guy couldn't punch it in the endzone against some of the WORST defenses in the league in 2022... AND he had at his disposal--

• Russ Wilson 
• Javonte Williams
• Jerry Jeudy
• Courtland Sutton
• KJ Hamler
• Good/steady Oline

 

GROSS.

If you followed the NFL you should know Javonte played 4 games,  Russell Wilson was missing open WRs, KJ hamler has like 40 career receptions in 3 yearsand the offensive line is average at best. 

And like I pointed out before, the Seahawks offense improved by letting Russell go and replacing him with Geno....

[Tranquilo]

I don't think he'd come here unless he knew Rodgers was coming. Taking a risk with more bad QB play would be bad for his career

[#27TheDominator]

44 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

For the haters in the house who say the Jets are always settling for scraps. They got their guys and one of them was highly sought after and chose the Jets

Run game coordinator chooses team that can't throw.  Film at 11.

[BigRy56]

6 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

Josina trying to cause chaos 

LOL see now OBJ I wouldn’t be a fan of. But it would be a first class ticket to hard knocks if it happened

[undertow]

 

47 minutes ago, ZachStepdad said:

Idk how to feel if he was that trash with Russell Wilson and all those receivers  they have

And the fact that they all played better once he left.

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4 minutes ago, pointman said:

Breece won't be Breece for a while. 2024?

I've seen people say this, it may be true but I think the bigger hurdle in returning from an ACL is trusting your knee not to buckle when you plant. Luckily for Breece, that is not how he tore his ACL. He was tackled and twisted, my hope is he won't have that mental fear of planing the way someone like Barkley may have had.

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

If you followed the NFL you should know Javonte played 4 games,  Russell Wilson was missing open WRs, KJ hamler has like 40 career receptions in 3 yearsand the offensive line is average at best. 

And like I pointed out before, the Seahawks offense improved by letting Russell go and replacing him with Geno....

We’ll learn what Carroll really thinks of geno soon b/c they have the 5th pick in the draft.  

[Paradis]

3 minutes ago, C Mart said:

He was in his 1st yr as a 1st time HC and as we saw, he was well over his head as a HC...

w/o Rodgers his career as an OC was lackluster as well. 

Basically every angle on Hackett is bad if ARod is not involved. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

46 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

For the haters in the house who say the Jets are always settling for scraps. They got their guys and one of them was highly sought after and chose the Jets

Oh God, a Tannehill reunion pending???

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 minute ago, Paradis said:

w/o Rodgers his career as an OC was lackluster as well. 

Basically every angle on Hackett is bad if ARod is not involved. 

Who were his other QBs?

[Flea Flicking Frank]

Just now, Paradis said:

w/o Rodgers his career as an OC was lackluster as well. 

Basically every angle on Hackett is bad if ARod is not involved. 

Yup, if this isnt about getting Rodgers, its a terrible hire.

 

That said, nothing they were going to do was going to be overly meaningful, you were not getting anyone good with what could amount to a one and done with no clarity on the QB position, so if this means getting Rodgers for a year or two, its as good as any option that was realistic

[Irish Jet]

7 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Literally nothing actually points to it yet.

It's entirely 100% fan and media speculation, and a few same-as-usual cryptic attention-whoring comments from Rodgers, same as it was in previous years, will he get traded, will he retire, etc.

There is absolutely nothing firm, at all, that he is coming here.  Or to any of the OTHER 5 cities who ALSO think Rodgers-to-them is like, totally happening, lol.

Nah.

The Packers are actively shopping him and want him out of the building. That is known. More than it ever has been before. For the first time the fan sentiment is turning against him too. For some picks they'd happily move on with Love. 

The Jets are one of like 3-4 realistic suitors and are more desperate than any of them to win now. Peter King has specifically reported that we'd be all over it for their reported asking price of two first rounders. We're a relatively attractive proposition for a QB, with a top 5 defence and Hall/Wilson looking like elite talents and we just signed his boy to coach the offence. 

I'm not one to usually jump on board this things but I'm betting he ends up here. It makes a lot of sense. For Woody, Douglas and Saleh at least. It will backfire though and he'll retire next year, because Jets. 

[JohnnyLV]

This is like the Jetsiest move ever. Glad they refuse to move out of their box....NOT

I mean what are they thinking?

Kotite loses 7 in a row, we rush out to hire him

Gase leaves Miami on a losing streak and with reports of him not dealing well with people, we rush out to hire him

Hackett completely fails at offense with Russell Wilson at QB, lets rush out and hire him

NFL is a passing league, but let's double down on run first.

Hope I am wrong but I just see this as a repeat of the exact same cycle, and next year we will be looking for everything new again....and then we will run out and sign a conservative run first DC

[Beerfish]

4 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

If you followed the NFL you should know Javonte played 4 games,  Russell Wilson was missing open WRs, KJ hamler has like 40 career receptions in 3 yearsand the offensive line is average at best. 

And like I pointed out before, the Seahawks offense improved by letting Russell go and replacing him with Geno....

So the jets big plan is to go out and get the next russsel wilson aka aaron rodgers.

[Bronx]

56 minutes ago, PS17 said:

He was so incompetent in Denver. Feels kinda gross. But if it gets Rodgers here, shrug. 

On point!

[Tranquilo]

49 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

For the haters in the house who say the Jets are always settling for scraps. They got their guys and one of them was highly sought after and chose the Jets

Coach Carter, baby

[Paradis]

2 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Who were his other QBs?

its a long list. Point being, his year in DEN was not an anomaly. 

[FootballLove]

As long as we don't see THIS on the last play of the 2023 AFCCG it's a win:

[football guy]

FWIW- I don't think there's some "wink-wink" agreement suggesting Rodgers is definitely coming here because of Hackett (see 2022 Denver Broncos). Hackett was in our plans dating back to last December as a person who they identified who can come in and be a senior buffer to MLF.  QB-centric coach with his kind of experience and player-friendly personality was needed. Mike's version of the "Shanahan offense" more closely resembled his brother Matt's version of it, so don't expect the overall scheme and principles to change much. It also helps that he and Saleh know each other well, and that Matt LaFleur (Saleh's best friend) loves him. Still, you can't ignore the fact that Rodgers is extremely close with Hackett, both as a friend and as a colleague. 

I do think hiring Hackett will make it an easier sell to Rodgers and Garoppolo. There will not be wholesale changes to the scheme, but they will be real changes. They will simplify the offense and add an RPO element to it, which is very QB friendly regardless who that player is.

 

This feels like a hire that will either be glorious (landing Rodgers) or horrific. We'll see. Klint Kubiak is a name to watch as QB coach or PGC 

[Greensleeves]

52 minutes ago, extmenace said:

He was good enough to get a head coaching job. Some guys just aren’t HC material but good coordinators…look at Todd bowles.

It's a completely different job that takes a different skill set. 

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, Paradis said:

its a long list. Point being, his year in DEN was not an anomaly. 

Wasn't he OC when Bortles made the title game? That deserves like a Nobel Prize

[C Mart]

5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

w/o Rodgers his career as an OC was lackluster as well. 

Basically every angle on Hackett is bad if ARod is not involved. 

Other than Reich, who would you have wanted as OC?

[Biggs]

3 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Some of the best coordinators in NFL history failed as Head Coaches. Buddy Ryan,  Josh McDaniel, Todd Haley, Bud Carson, Marchibroda, Gilbride, Coslett etc...

His failure in Denver is of zero relevance to his ability to be an OC. That doesn't mean he will be great but great OCs aren't currently available..... 

There's nothing in his history that speaks to NFL historicallyt great OC either and he's been around including being canned by Marrone in season at Jacksonville.   Talk about zero relevance.

 

 

[choon328]

28 minutes ago, Paradis said:

This guy couldn't punch it in the endzone against some of the WORST defenses in the league in 2022... AND he had at his disposal--

• Russ Wilson 
• Javonte Williams
• Jerry Jeudy
• Courtland Sutton
• KJ Hamler
• Good/steady Oline

 

GROSS.

Russell Wilson is awful. The film breakdown on him looks like Zach Wilson's

[ChuckkieB]

54 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said:

it really is incredible. The league is drowning in failsons. Kinda makes you feel for the undoubtedly more talented people that are constantly getting passed over for some ham brained scion.

Too many big words here. Read the room buddy! ?

[JoshAllenSZN]

I think Hackett stinks. But when you get a chance to hire a coach from the Doug Marrone coaching tree, you've just gotta do it, right?

When he was OC of the Bills -- and granted, that was a long time ago -- we were constantly banging our head against the wall in irritation at his unimaginative, uncreative, outdated play-calling. His main credential seemed to be...that he was the son of a great coach, I guess? I was always furious at his awful run game, in particular. Do you like HB Dive? If so, Hackett is your guy!

To be fair, he has called plays for three top five scoring offenses in his career. He has also called plays for five offenses ranked 18th or worse, including finishes of 31st and 32nd.

Looking beyond the statistical finishes and at his actual playcalling -- because sometimes great QBs succeed in spite of bad coaches (see Gase, Adam) -- I've just never been impressed. Look no further than the Denver Broncos this year. A quarterback who has been successful in this league in the past, a talented (if oft injured) WR corps, some TE talent...and just an absolutely awful offense. If you watched them, you know what I mean. Not very modern, not very forward thinking. Old school west coast principles without much pop.

I'm not coming here just to be a negative Nancy. I'm coming here to warn you that I think Hackett is a bum, and I think he keeps getting work because of nepotism and his friendship with Aaron Rodgers. For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the Bills' offensive coordinator, either. I think Allen succeeded in spite of him this year. I think he wasted and under-used talented players like Nyheim Hines and James Cook and Dawson Knox, and I'm not optimistic about him improving much going forward. 

Maybe Hackett lures Rodgers to the Jets, and that ends up making it a worthwhile hire. Solely on his own merits, though? Hackett ain't it. Hate on me all you want. I know I'm an enemy fan and no one asked me. I'm just giving my honest opinion. 

 

[choon328]

22 minutes ago, section314 said:

If they go to RPO, that would be for a QB not named Rodgers I would guess. An offense way more suited for a QB currently on the roster . Gee, wonder who that is?

GB runs a ton of RPO with Rodgers

[C Mart]

2 minutes ago, football guy said:

FWIW- I don't think there's some "wink-wink" agreement suggesting Rodgers is definitely coming here because of Hackett (see 2022 Denver Broncos). Hackett was in our plans dating back to last December as a person who they identified who can come in and be a senior buffer to MLF.  QB-centric coach with his kind of experience and player-friendly personality was needed. Mike's version of the "Shanahan offense" more closely resembled his brother Matt's version of it, so don't expect the overall scheme and principles to change much. It also helps that he and Saleh know each other well, and that Matt LaFleur (Saleh's best friend) loves him. Still, you can't ignore the fact that Rodgers is extremely close with Hackett, both as a friend and as a colleague. 

I do think hiring Hackett will make it an easier sell to Rodgers and Garoppolo. There will not be wholesale changes to the scheme, but they will be real changes. They will simplify the offense and add an RPO element to it, which is very QB friendly regardless who that player is.

 

This feels like a hire that will either be glorious (landing Rodgers) or horrific. We'll see. Klint Kubiak is a name to watch as QB coach or PGC 

Thought the same regarding K. Kubiak.

[pointman]

9 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I've seen people say this, it may be true but I think the bigger hurdle in returning from an ACL is trusting your knee not to buckle when you plant. Luckily for Breece, that is not how he tore his ACL. He was tackled and twisted, my hope is he won't have that mental fear of planing the way someone like Barkley may have had.

Nah. I've torn mine more than once. Its not just a mental thing. It feels "off" for a while and your body naturally protects it causing you to move differently. Even when you decide to mentally "go for it" your body just can't. It takes a lot of time. Someone elite like him, with the best staff around him might be able to do it faster, but still takes time. If he goes off next season for 1200 rushing and another 800 receiving, I'd still expect even more output in 2024. 

[choon328]

14 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

I'm honestly shocked to see the amount of people on here that want Rodgers. Trading a 1st and then some for Aaron Rodgers would make me f*cking sick to my stomach. Praying to the football God that man comes no where near this team. 

But if my previous experience with the football Gods is any indication, we'll be trading for him within the next 6 weeks. 

I would love to know who you want as the starting QB for the Jets in 2023