Popular Post Lupz27 Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 This is a A Rodgers trade or bust signing no? I mean he doesn’t work with any other QB as we just saw him turn a HOF QB into mush. 2 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GangGreened Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 It’s a bad hire 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Great hire, I am 70% sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsAddict Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 The guy kind of reminds me of Gase. He excelled grabbing coffee for Aaron Rodgers. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, GangGreened said: It’s a bad hire Thats as HC not OC 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, GangGreened said: It’s a bad hire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Thats as HC not OC Yep, as OC for AR, Packers were 13-3 ('19), 13-3 ('20) and 13-4 ('21). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Again???... That's been most of this organization's existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, NIGHT STALKER said: Yep, as OC for AR, Packers were 13-3 ('19), 13-3 ('20) and 13-4 ('21). he never called a play in GB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 These are all the years he was an OC or HC. year team dvoa ppg ypg 2013 bills 25 22 19 2014 bills 26 18 26 2016 jags 27 25 23 2017 jags 15 5 6 2018 jags 30 31 27 2019 packers 8 15 17 2020 packers 1 1 9 2021 packers 2 10 10 2022 broncos 29 32 21 ^ linked to roster of each team above 5 of 9 years with bottom 10 dvoa 3 of 9 years with top 10 dvoa - all with Aaron Rodgers even split of top 10, bottom 10, middle of the pack ppg & ypg 2018 Packers were 7th in dvoa, 12th in ypg, 14th in ppg Seems like a guy you can trust to steer the ship and maybe even elevate a good offensive roster w/a good QB but probably isn't going to elevate an average or below average roster w/avg -> below avg qb. Hopefully the broncos debacle had more to do with him being clueless as a head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: These are all the years he was an OC or HC. year team dvoa ppg ypg 2013 bills 25 22 19 2014 bills 26 18 26 2016 jags 27 25 23 2017 jags 15 5 6 2018 jags 30 31 27 2019 packers 8 15 17 2020 packers 1 1 9 2021 packers 2 10 10 2022 broncos 29 32 21 ^ linked to roster of each team above 5 of 9 years with bottom 10 dvoa 3 of 9 years with top 10 dvoa - all with Aaron Rodgers even split of top 10, bottom 10, middle of the pack ppg & ypg 2018 Packers were 7th in dvoa, 12th in ypg, 14th in ppg Seems like a guy you can trust to steer the ship and maybe even elevate a good offensive roster w/a good QB but probably isn't going to elevate an average or below average roster w/avg -> below avg qb. Hopefully the broncos debacle had more to do with him being clueless as a head coach. Jags QB 2016,17 and 18 was Blake Bortles. Bills QBs in 2013/14 were EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton. Maybe he needs Aaron Rodgers to succeed or maybe he just needs a QB that isn't absolute garbage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 @mods we need a subforum for ppl who wake up at 7pm 2 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post bgivs21 Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 44 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: This is a A Rodgers trade or bust signing no? I mean he doesn’t work with any other QB as we just saw him turn a HOF QB into mush. Not a fan of the hire. But let's be real, he didn't turn Russell Wilson into mush, Wilson was already a steaming pile of mush, that's why the Seachickens got rid of him 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 39 minutes ago, GangGreened said: It’s a bad hire 1) That’s as an HC, not an OC. 2) The Broncos only played 2 games without him, and not exactly against a murderer’s row of defenses. Chiefs always play in shootouts and Chargers are mediocre. That’s not a great metric as it compares 15 games to 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Did Connor Hughes actually say something both interesting and not Douchy at once? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I'm thouroughly enjoying people falling over themselves over Nate Hacket...It's going to age about as well as gaslighting about Zach Wilsons playing well throwing 150 yards and Adam Gase being a offensive genius. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: He took the job because his nfl coaching career was effectively all but over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 34 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Thats as HC not OC He called the plays for Denver in 2022. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Blake Bortles and the Jags went to an AFC Championship game with Hackett as the OC. Yeah having Aaron Rodgers would be great, but I am not judging him for his Broncos disaster. That wasn’t all him. Russell Wilson is terrible. And he isn’t coming here to run the team. Don’t downplay the Keith Carter hire. Two experienced offensive coaches. Imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, undertow said: I'm thouroughly enjoying people falling over themselves over Nate Hacket...It's going to age about as well as gaslighting about Zach Wilsons playing well throwing 150 yards and Adam Gase being a offensive genius. Where are these people? I don't see any 8n this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: That's actually a pretty interesting point. He could have taken time off, and still collected a hefty sum. Instead he signed for a position that isn't exactly the apple of most's eye. For the first time in a long time the Jets have talent on offense, but are uncertain at QB, and in the end it's still the Jets until they earn / deserve a better rep as a team / org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 41 minutes ago, GangGreened said: It’s a bad hire I don’t even love the Hackett hire without Rodgers being a guarantee but, having said that, I’m not ignorant enough to ignore the fact that being a HC, with all the extra responsibilities, is massive different between being a coordinator focused on one single objective. Also, that “surge” is heavily skewed by the small sample size. The Broncos played the Chiefs two weeks before he was fired and dropped 28 points, 4 more points than they did in the game post-firing. The last game of the year the Chargers kinda half-assed it, even though they sorta-kinda played their starters for a lot of the game, because they had absolutely nothing to play for, but didn’t want to rest anyone. Season long issues never fall one person, and they are never fixed by firing one person. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hall better heal well because Hackett loves to run, especially on 3rd and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Hall better heal well because Hackett loves to run, especially on 3rd and 7BAM is salivating too Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 51 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: that’s a flashy editorial narrative that Connor has going, and there very well may be some reasonable common sense to it… But it doesn’t check out as bulletproof. You don’t stay relevant forever in this business. For some there’s a very short window to maximize your income. Yes you want to make smart choices about where you work and who you work with, but after going down in flames in Denver, the opportunity to pocket a fat seven-figure salary again (double your income) is not something you shrug off flippantly in the manner that Connor is suggesting. Any financial advisor would say take the money while it’s being offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Jet fans: enough with these first year coaches with no experience! also jet fans: what… he has a lot of experience at that position? BAD HIRE!!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 If you guys think russel became crap overnight because of hacket then i have a bridge to sell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: If you guys think russel became crap overnight because of hacket then i have a bridge to sell The issue is Rodgers is on that same path. The same signs that wilson displayed his last year in seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: If I understand coaches salaries he gets the OC salary from NYJ then the rest of it he's owned from the broncos. He's not really turning down any money he's either choosing to work or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: he never called a play in GB Wait, seriously? bahahahahhahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsAddict Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 56 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: That's actually a pretty interesting point. He could have taken time off, and still collected a hefty sum. Instead he signed for a position that isn't exactly the apple of most's eye. For the first time in a long time the Jets have talent on offense, but are uncertain at QB, and in the end it's still the Jets until they earn / deserve a better rep as a team / org. He’s also very close to Saleh and Matt LaFleur. Probably took the job because nobody else wanted it and he felt bad for his friend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, Paradis said: that’s a flashy editorial narrative that Connor has going, and there very well may be some reasonable common sense to it… But it doesn’t check out as bulletproof. You don’t stay relevant forever in this business. For some there’s a very short window to maximize your income. Yes you want to make smart choices about where you work and who you work with, but after going down in flames in Denver, the opportunity to pocket a fat seven-figure salary again (double your income) is not something you shrug off flippantly in the manner that Connor is suggesting. Any financial advisor would say take the money while it’s being offered Except, that's not how NFL coaching Contracts generally work. Hackett isn't making any more, or less money, by taking the Jets job. Any money he makes from the Jets just reduces the amount the Broncos have to pay him. So if he was set to get 4 million from the Broncos this year and the Jets give him 1 million a year, the Broncos only have to give him 3 million a year. https://www.outkick.com/broncos-fire-coach-nathaniel-hackett/ From the Article "Hackett signed a four-year deal with the Broncos in January and will be paid the entire contract if he doesn’t land another job. If he returns to the NFL in another capacity, he’ll get paid for that work from his new employer and the Broncos will make up the difference to pay his head coach salary. So he is literally making zero dollars and zero cents to work for the Jets this year when he could have, ala Kliff Kingsbury, just moved to Thailand and collected a monster contract for a year or two without having to work. So we go back to motivation. What is his motivation to sign with the Jets if it isn't the money? I assume to prove that he is still a good OC. Well, do you risk that without some assurances that the Team will sign/trade for a really good QB? It would be idiotic to to do so if your QBs are Zach Wilson, Mike White and Jacoby Brissett. He'd be better off using the next 3 years to find a softer landing spot than the Jets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Hex said: Did Connor Hughes actually say something both interesting and not Douchy at once? idk "discount double-check this" still kinda douchy... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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