Interesting nuggets from Rosenblatt on Jets OC search

[NYDreamer]

8 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Not surprising, but I think this is why the Rodgers move happens.

Woody, Douglas and Saleh are all desperate.

Strong point here.  If rumors were true from a few months ago that the Johnsons may wish to sell the team, what helps your value go up more than winning a SB in NY.

[greenwichjetfan]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

It’s because Saleh made a sacrificial lamb out of a guy who was pulling 450 yards per game out of Mike White and a street free agent running back. The Jets OC job is normally a career-killer, and there are an historic amount of OC jobs open right now. The Jets job clearly being the worst one. This is all before you get to the fact that Zach Wilson is, for now, attached to the job. No one wants this on their resumé. Hackett is doing it pro bono and, if he can trick Rodgers into coming here? Bonus. 

If it were up to Saleh, LaFleur would still be here. This is all Woody/JD.

Damn shame - he’s probably the best OC we’ve had since I became a fan in ‘99, but Zach Wilson ruined it and the owner and GM needed a escapegoat. 

[Dunnie]

4 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

If it were up to Saleh, LaFluer would still be here. This is all Woody/JD.

Damn shame - he’s probably the best OC we’ve had since I became a fan in ‘99, but Zach Wilson ruined it and the owner and GM needed a escapegoat. 

We don't really know. But in a way I agree .. MLF will be a head coach soon .. guy always came across as lucid and intelligent.  Moreso than the Bald Beast.

Still we don't know if it was MLF inability to develop talent.

[greenwichjetfan]

8 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

We don't really know. But in a way I agree .. MLF will be a head coach soon .. guy always came across as lucid and intelligent.  Moreso than the Bald Beast.

Still we don't know if it was MLF inability to develop talent.

Blaming LaFleur for the overdrafted mistake that is Zach Wilson is like blaming a fish for not being able to fly. 

[Sperm Edwards]

6 hours ago, Hex said:

Except in Denver, where everybody was sure he would go

The difference is he’d just won another MVP award. I can’t recall that ever happening, where a player was traded after being voted NFL MVP the prior two seasons.

[docdhc]

1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said:

The difference is he’d just won another MVP award. I can’t recall that ever happening, where a player was traded after being voted NFL MVP the prior two seasons.

True. Now he’s coming off a down year and pushing 40. The guy couldn’t get to a Super Bowl since 2010 in his prime and we expect him to do that here after depleting our assets and maxing out our cap? Yes it would be exciting to have him but we can make the playoffs with a vet QB that doesn’t break the bank or get everyone fired.  We need to have some stability and keep the same people in place for more than 3 or 4 years like good teams do. 

[TommyT]

Rodgers is a means to a beginning. If we want stability, we must get a long term answer at the qb spot. As much as I dislike Zach, having Rodgers mentor him is our Hail Mary.

[Mogglez]

35 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Blaming LaFleur for the overdrafted mistake that is Zach Wilson is like blaming a fish for not being able to fly. 

LeFleur isn’t gone because of Zach Wilson; he’s gone because the players, particularly the WRs, f*cking hated him, in addition to the fact that he sucked at calling plays over the course of a game.  

The dude may learn and change under McVay, but that doesn’t mean for one second that he didn’t earn his firing.

[k-met57]

cant speak for anyone else but Hackett was my first choice, although my assumption was that getting Hackett was a Rodgers play the whole time.

Bevell not interviewing who cares, guy had the worst offensive play call in superbowl history.

[slimjasi]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

It’s because Saleh made a sacrificial lamb out of a guy who was pulling 450 yards per game out of Mike White and a street free agent running back. The Jets OC job is normally a career-killer, and there are an historic amount of OC jobs open right now. The Jets job clearly being the worst one. This is all before you get to the fact that Zach Wilson is, for now, attached to the job. No one wants this on their resumé. Hackett is doing it pro bono and, if he can trick Rodgers into coming here? Bonus. 

????

The jets had 309 and 279 yards in Mike white’s final two starts, respectively. They scored 18 total points in those two games. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Saleh even admitted the “#1 concern, and rightfully so” among potential coordinators was “the QB position”

In other words, ZW is radioactive and viewed as a job killer around the league 

ZW is the only QB currently under contract so it’s a thinly veiled diss — it can’t possibly be anybody else

Bevell and Brady refused to even interview

Hackett was desperate to rehab his image and here we are

Kotite vibes with hiring a coach coming off an embarrassing meltdown of a season 

[bla bla bla]

IMO the 1 year potential as an OC is the reason most did not come here. I also wouldn't want to move my family for a Hail Mary with a failed #2 pick as QB1 at the moment

[NYJCAP2]

9 hours ago, sourceworx said:

Yep. We keep blaming the coaches and the front office, but regardless of who holds those positions, the Jets continuously do the same stupid things over and over. 

The problem with the Jets isn't with anyone but Woody Johnson, whose only accomplishment in life is that he was the least worthless bag of sh*te to lumber out of his father's pee-hole. The team will never be anything more than a joke as long as he's the owner.

 

10 hours ago, dbatesman said:

No surprises there. The OC job is a microcosm of the franchise itself, in that it’s a radioactive cesspool that any actually qualified candidate would run screaming from.

It’s definitely is.

The organization is a promise one thing then do another because the person at the top can’t help himself. 
 

Even if the right pieces were ever in place it won’t matter because there will always be some angle twisted by the boner at the top.

[Titan24]

If it’s not Rodgers, Carr or Jimmy G this board will have a meltdown not seen before…..

I do suspect it will be one of those 3 however.

[More Cowbell]

Really don't get this. For once the Jets did this stuff the right way. They were quick and decisive. Yeah Bevel said he wouldn't  take the job and Brady was also said not to be a choice but I really believe due to the Saleh connection,  this was a guy they wanted and they got him. Hopefully the QB search ends as well. 

[More Cowbell]

22 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

LeFleur isn’t gone because of Zach Wilson; he’s gone because the players, particularly the WRs, f*cking hated him, in addition to the fact that he sucked at calling plays over the course of a game.  

The dude may learn and change under McVay, but that doesn’t mean for one second that he didn’t earn his firing.

I still can't  understand how anyone judges MLF with a QB as bad as Zach. 

[Claymation]

56 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Blaming LaFleur for the overdrafted mistake that is Zach Wilson is like blaming a fish for not being able to fly. 

You do realize that there are Flying Fish.

[UntouchableCrew]

This is all obvious to anyone who follows the league and many of us said it before LaFleur was let go.

[Titan24]

7 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said:

 

It’s definitely is.

The organization is a promise one thing then do another because the person at the top can’t help himself. 
 

Even if the right pieces were ever in place it won’t matter because there will always be some angle twisted by the boner at the top.

Correct, but seems like Woody is ready to shell out big $$$.  If it’s Rodgers he will have to cut a roster bonus check of $60 mil this year. That’s a lot of scratch. If that happens would have to give him credit.

[Sperm Edwards]

45 minutes ago, docdhc said:

True. Now he’s coming off a down year and pushing 40. The guy couldn’t get to a Super Bowl since 2010 in his prime and we expect him to do that here after depleting our assets and maxing out our cap? Yes it would be exciting to have him but we can make the playoffs with a vet QB that doesn’t break the bank or get everyone fired.  We need to have some stability and keep the same people in place for more than 3 or 4 years like good teams do. 

Hard to ignore two factors in the down year

1. Took away his best veteran target and replaced him with nothing.
2. Broke his thumb early in the season.

What QB would be expected to have an MVP season under those circumstances? Then throw in the Packers’ OL issues of their own (weren’t nearly as deep as the Jets).

The fact is the only offensive players the Packers have drafted in round 1, since winning that Super Bowl: 

• a bust OT with the #32 pick in 2011
• Jordan Love in 2020

A bust, a QB2, and 10 defenders (nominally Kevin King was round 2 after GB traded down 4 slots from 29 to 33).

• Incidentally King was also the guy who blew the coverage on the great Scotty Miller to leave him open for an easy 40 yr TD pass from Brady with 8 seconds left in the half in the NFCCG; then Aaron Jones fumbled inside his own 30 on the next drive to open the 2nd half (leading to another TB TD); followed by LaFleur unnecessarily going for 2 before the 4th quarter (failing); then inside the 10, LaFleur then opts to kick a FG down by a TD with 2 min left in the game — so yes, they‘d still need a TD anyway; never got the ball back again (with King getting late-flagged for a DPI on an uncatchable 3rd down Brady pass); and the Packers lost by 5. But Rodgers couldn’t get them to another SB.

[T0mShane]

45 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

LeFleur isn’t gone because of Zach Wilson; he’s gone because the players, particularly the WRs, f*cking hated him, in addition to the fact that he sucked at calling plays over the course of a game.  

The dude may learn and change under McVay, but that doesn’t mean for one second that he didn’t earn his firing.

Yeah, if there was one hallmark of that Broncos team, it was how much fun Jerry Jeudy and Cortland Sutton were having playing in Hackett’s offense.

[T0mShane]

Another consideration here if we don’t get Rodgers: Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore are going to become locker room arsonists if they’re not getting the ball at a clip they deem worthy of their talents. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

9 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He will have to make me change my mind.

Yup, the ball’s in his court. At least they didn’t go out and hire some other inexperienced coordinator.

[TuscanyTile2]

Nuggets?  How about a Whopper instead?

[Matt39]

10 hours ago, doitny said:

we won those 7 games WITH a backup QB. Wilson, White and Flacco are not NFL starters.

so backup vs backup we did pretty well. means our roster except the QB position is pretty good.

Wins against Mark Rypien, Skylar Thompson (and a loss), Brissett in a miracle, Simien, Trubisky/Pickett. Lost 6 in a row to finish the season. The Jets are not a QB away. Douglas 3 year rebuild did not work. It’s ok. What’s not OK is not recognizing there needs to be a reset with a new voice picking players. The entire offensive line needs to be revamped and we’re likely looking at AVT playing tackle. There’s still no edge rusher either.  Not exactly promising heading into next season off of a 6 game skid. 

[Adoni Beast]

11 hours ago, shuler82 said:

Yeah.  He didn’t take the job as a favor 

Especially considering this guy had years of HC $$$ to collect and not rush back into any job until there was an opening for one he’s be comfortable with.

[JustInFudge]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah, if there was one hallmark of that Broncos team, it was how much fun Jerry Jeudy and Cortland Sutton were having playing in Hackett’s offense.

Fwiw, it was Jeudy's best year in the league in receptions, yards and TDs, and it was second best season for Sutton and you saw the footage of Jeudy literally ready to murder Russ.

 

[JustInFudge]

4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Nuggets?  How about a Whopper instead?

FULL BLAST JAMMING THROUGH THE ENTIRE HOUSE!!!!!!!

[Adoni Beast]

Also worth noting that Bevel and Brady are not taking interviews with any team. 

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Nuggets?  How about a Whopper instead?

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Another consideration here if we don’t get Rodgers: Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore are going to become locker room arsonists if they’re not getting the ball at a clip they deem worthy of their talents. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

7 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Wins against Mark Rypien, Skylar Thompson (and a loss), Brissett in a miracle, Simien, Trubisky/Pickett. Lost 6 in a row to finish the season. The Jets are not a QB away. Douglas 3 year rebuild did not work. It’s ok. What’s not OK is not recognizing there needs to be a reset with a new voice picking players. The entire offensive line needs to be revamped and we’re likely looking at AVT playing tackle. There’s still no edge rusher either.  Not exactly promising heading into next season off of a 6 game skid. 

If the Jets picked Lawrence or Fields, and they were going into year 3 with their young QB on the rise, you would not be saying this. 

But I get it. 2 overall failed badly and now everything is bad and everyone sucks. 

[jetswin]

11 hours ago, JetsAddict said:

Confirmed Bevell wouldn’t interview. Also said Joe Brady wasn’t interested. Mentioned a lot of candidates were hesitant to take the job because of both the QB situation and the fact that Saleh and Douglas are on thin ice. 
 

Rosenblatt said a few days ago Jets sources told him Hackett was leaning towards not taking the gig. He speculated Saleh talked him into it recently. 

My theory?

Nobody wanted this job. Hackett by all accounts is a great guy and likely came through for his friend. Keep in mind Hackett worked for Matt LaFleur who is best buds with Robert Saleh. 

 https://www.youtube.com/live/nQPYT2xSipA?feature=share

im not buying this sourceless bs. another guy trying to make a name for himself by bashing the Jets. Another thing I'm not a fan of the Hacker Jr. hiring but how can the supposed fact that Saleh was able to convince him to take the job not be looked at as a positive for the team in that they got the guy the wanted?

[Green Ghost]

17 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

If the Jets picked Lawrence or Fields, and they were going into year 3 with their young QB on the rise, you would not be saying this. 

But I get it. 2 overall failed badly and now everything is bad and everyone sucks. 

Haven’t you heard?

We’re actually the best 7-10 team in the history of the NFL. We’re a QB away from a Super Bowl….

[Green Ghost]

11 minutes ago, jetswin said:

im not buying this sourceless bs. another guy trying to make a name for himself by bashing the Jets. Another thing I'm not a fan of the Hacker Jr. hiring but how can the supposed fact that Saleh was able to convince him to take the job not be looked at as a positive for the team in that they got the guy the wanted?

Zach Wilson was another guy “they wanted”.