Post here if you despise Woody Johnson

[Dcat]

I am a STH and have spent a fortune on this team since the later Shea stadium days.  I have never liked this owner and have grown to hate him.  

He has to be the most insipid owner of the 31 teams with owners.  

I sure hope this paragraph from the Tony Pauline article is false, because if it's true, then Woody is back to being balls deep in his Woody-meddling and we are doomed as fans to suffer the same consequences as usual.

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Here in Vegas, league sources say that the Jets front office is ready to move on from Wilson and trade for a veteran, but owner Woody Johnson believes the former BYU quarterback can be salvaged. We’re told Johnson, whose been fully engaged in the Jets’ decision-making the past few weeks, believes Wilson is still an arm talent that should not be discarded.

 

[Hex]

It seems pretty clear to me that Woody is meddling again. I don't see how Zach Wilson could still be here if not for Woody.

[TuscanyTile2]

I don't know about "despise" but I'm definitely not a fan.  Though it's not as much for football-related stuff.

[since1975]

Woody lost me when he had to hire a consultant to find a new GM.  Seemed like an out of touch thing to do.  Think it was Casserly who recommended Mac.  Must have been fooled by the coffee cup stuck to his hand.  SMH for almost 50 years!

[playtowinthegame]

Woody was seen coming out of Planet 13 right before that quote. 

 

 

NOTE: I don't hate or despise Woody Johnson.

[bitonti]

I don't hate this person but to address the "woody likes Zach" rumor, wilson comes with a sponsorship from jetblue. It's a very unique situation.

The jets could cut Zach treat him like any other player and lose that sponsorship. It's always about the money. If Justin fields uncle founded met life he'd have been the pick instead 

[kevinc855]

Never understood the "Woody hate" thing. Always seemed to me like an easy scapegoat during this 12 year playoff draught. Has Woody been perfect? No. Has Woody been a terrible owner? I would also argue no. 

Lets take an unbiased look at his record. 

1) Buys the Jets in January of 2000.

2) In his first 3 years as owner, Jets do not have a losing record. Brings in Herm Edwards after first season as GM after stop gap coach Al Groh is let go by Johnson.

3) Herm Edwards teams make playoffs 3 out of 5 seasons (imagine that Jet fans) with two double digit win seasons.

4) After a bad 4-12 5th year at the helm, brings in Mangini, a much talked about hire at the time. Makes playoffs first year, bad second season, actually a winning record 9-7 in his 3rd year but no playoffs, let go.

5) Johnson hires Rex Ryan! Takes team to AFC Championship twice! Only 2 losing seasons in 6 seasons at helm. Makes right call and lets go of Rex after 6 seasons. 

6) Hired Todd Bowles, a MUCH praised hire in 2015, team goes 10-6 and then lets him fledge around for 3 more seasons.

7) Takes UK ambassadrship and Chris Johnson hires Gase. 

8. Brother hires Saleh. Since his return it has looked like Joe Douglas still makes football decisions and coach seems to have alot of flexibility, even so much as to bench the number 2 pick in season 2. 

All that aside, seems to pay contacts when asked, built a state of the art facility in Florham Park and has no crazy scandals (see Commanders) etc to speak of. 

What do you mean by meddling? Like an owner who doesnt have any interest in the team? Thats not going to happen. He owns the ****ign team. Does he do press conferences every game like JJ in Dallas or a physocpath like the guy in Carolina or DC? What meddling? 

How is this guy such a bad owner. Seems like lazy analysis to me. 

 

[Untouchable]

Woody’s the main reason we’re going to end up with Rodgers instead of Gardner Minshew.

Praise be to him

[56mehl56]

2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Never understood the "Woody hate" thing. Always seemed to me like an easy scapegoat during this 12 year playoff draught. Has Woody been perfect? No. Has Woody been a terrible owner? I would also argue no. 

Lets take an unbiased look at his record. 

1) Buys the Jets in January of 2000.

2) In his first 3 years as owner, Jets do not have a losing record. Brings in Herm Edwards after first season as GM after stop gap coach Al Groh is let go by Johnson.

3) Herm Edwards teams make playoffs 3 out of 5 seasons (imagine that Jet fans) with two double digit win seasons.

4) After a bad 4-12 5th year at the helm, brings in Mangini, a much talked about hire at the time. Makes playoffs first year, bad second season, actually a winning record 9-7 in his 3rd year but no playoffs, let go.

5) Johnson hires Rex Ryan! Takes team to AFC Championship twice! Only 2 losing seasons in 6 seasons at helm. Makes right call and lets go of Rex after 6 seasons. 

6) Hired Todd Bowles, a MUCH praised hire in 2015, team goes 10-6 and then lets him fledge around for 3 more seasons.

7) Takes UK ambassadrship and Chris Johnson hires Gase. 

8. Brother hires Saleh. Since his return it has looked like Joe Douglas still makes football decisions and coach seems to have alot of flexibility, even so much as to bench the number 2 pick in season 2. 

All that aside, seems to pay contacts when asked, built a state of the art facility in Florham Park and has no crazy scandals (see Commanders) etc to speak of. 

What do you mean by meddling? Like an owner who doesnt have any interest in the team? Thats not going to happen. He owns the ****ign team. Does he do press conferences every game like JJ in Dallas or a physocpath like the guy in Carolina or DC? What meddling? 

How is this guy such a bad owner. Seems like lazy analysis to me. 

 

I agree with you on this one. The only thing I feel Woody can be accused of is not surrounding himself with true football people at an organizational level.  

[David Harris]

I think Woody's heart is in the right place.  He's not cheap nor is he a scumbag but I hate the type of man he is; an effete silver-spoon plutocrat with a low IQ.

[JetPotato]

Present.

[bitonti]

5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

 

Lets take an unbiased look at his record. 

7) Takes UK ambassador job 

has no crazy scandals

 

Fact check woody had a scandal in the UK 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/08/12/woody-johnson-inappropriate-comments-united-states-ambassador

[OilfieldJet]

He sucks.

[OilfieldJet]

7 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

The only thing I feel Woody can be accused of is not surrounding himself with true football people at an organizational level.  

This is the only thing he has to do and he has failed for more than 20 years. He sucks.

[GreenFish]

If we get ARod, grooming Zach behind him for two years is not a bad idea. We need our remaining draft picks to fix the OL. So I dont want us drafting a QB. We draft a QB in 2024 to also groom and see which of the two takes over once Rodgers retires.

[jgb]

7 minutes ago, David Harris said:

an effete silver-spoon plutocrat with a low IQ.

This is my new go to insult 

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, OilfieldJet said:

This is the only thing he has to do and he has failed for more than 20 years. He sucks.

No its not , it's just the one thing we as fans should not be happy with from him. 

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

This is the only thing he has to do and he has failed for more than 20 years. He sucks.

Yeah I mean damn other than failing to avoid icebergs, Titanic’s captain was aces.

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

This is my new go to insult 

Isn't that what started Tom Brady's divorce ?

[Bronx]

Don't mess with Coolio!

[jgb]

From an organizational dollar and cents perspective Woody is a top 5 successful owner. Too bad we don’t get dividends as fans and profits don’t translate to wins.

[Obrien2Toon]

Woody sucks

but wasn’t the last report that woody don’t like Wilson, and was pissed they stuck with him for so long 

[Jet_Engine1]

Meh

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said:

Woody sucks

but wasn’t the last report that woody don’t like Wilson, and was pissed they stuck with him for so long 

Woody’s PR team planting both seeds to cover the big man in every scenario. When they decide BYU’s future, Woody’s flacks can revive one of the “leaks” while disavowing the other.

[HessStation]

Hi

[TuscanyTile2]

4 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Never understood the "Woody hate" thing. Always seemed to me like an easy scapegoat during this 12 year playoff draught. Has Woody been perfect? No. Has Woody been a terrible owner? I would also argue no. 

Lets take an unbiased look at his record. 

1) Buys the Jets in January of 2000.

2) In his first 3 years as owner, Jets do not have a losing record. Brings in Herm Edwards after first season as GM after stop gap coach Al Groh is let go by Johnson.

3) Herm Edwards teams make playoffs 3 out of 5 seasons (imagine that Jet fans) with two double digit win seasons.

4) After a bad 4-12 5th year at the helm, brings in Mangini, a much talked about hire at the time. Makes playoffs first year, bad second season, actually a winning record 9-7 in his 3rd year but no playoffs, let go.

5) Johnson hires Rex Ryan! Takes team to AFC Championship twice! Only 2 losing seasons in 6 seasons at helm. Makes right call and lets go of Rex after 6 seasons. 

6) Hired Todd Bowles, a MUCH praised hire in 2015, team goes 10-6 and then lets him fledge around for 3 more seasons.

7) Takes UK ambassadrship and Chris Johnson hires Gase. 

8. Brother hires Saleh. Since his return it has looked like Joe Douglas still makes football decisions and coach seems to have alot of flexibility, even so much as to bench the number 2 pick in season 2. 

All that aside, seems to pay contacts when asked, built a state of the art facility in Florham Park and has no crazy scandals (see Commanders) etc to speak of. 

What do you mean by meddling? Like an owner who doesnt have any interest in the team? Thats not going to happen. He owns the ****ign team. Does he do press conferences every game like JJ in Dallas or a physocpath like the guy in Carolina or DC? What meddling? 

How is this guy such a bad owner. Seems like lazy analysis to me. 

If he was just a crappy football owner (who wanted to win) that would be fine.  It's the non-football related stuff that makes me dislike him.  But we're not allowed to discuss it on here.  

[jgb]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

If he was just a crappy football owner (who wanted to win) that would be fine.  It's the non-football related stuff that makes me dislike him.  But we're not allowed to discuss it on here.  

I wish Woody was much richer

[LockeJET]

here

[sourceworx]

4 hours ago, David Harris said:

I think Woody's heart is in the right place.  He's not cheap nor is he a scumbag but I hate the type of man he is; an effete silver-spoon plutocrat with a low IQ.

This. He isn't a bad person. He's just a snot-eating moron.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, sourceworx said:

This. He isn't a bad person. He's just a snot-eating moron.

He possibly has the lowest self-confidence to wealth ratio in history.

[Drums]

4 hours ago, bitonti said:

I don't hate this person but to address the "woody likes Zach" rumor, wilson comes with a sponsorship from jetblue. It's a very unique situation.

The jets could cut Zach treat him like any other player and lose that sponsorship. It's always about the money. If Justin fields uncle founded met life he'd have been the pick instead 

Were they already a sponsor before we drafted Wilson?

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Drums said:

Were they already a sponsor before we drafted Wilson?

We need a new sponsor

[Embrace the Suck]

15 minutes ago, jgb said:

We need a new sponsor

Solid franchise. Wish I could find one not on the turnpike.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Solid franchise. Wish I could find one not on the turnpike.

15+ years ago there used to be one in the Trenton NJ transit station. Between the $5 quickie massage parlor and bodega that only sells loose cigarettes.

[TuscanyTile2]

22 minutes ago, jgb said:

We need a new sponsor