Simmons: I have intel Rodgers going to Jets

[JETS SB]

9 minutes ago, undertow said:

I actually prefer the opposite....I don't want to commit to Carr long term would rather go all in with Rodgers for a few years and draft another guy down the road.  Carr and the Jets will be like Cousins and the Vikings...lot's of reagular seasons wins and early outs.

Agree with this. Carr is a long term commitment. Rodgers gives us a chance at more than a wild card appearance. 

[Skeet Ulrich]

27 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

I am warming to the idea of Rodgers coming here (along with a mid-round QB pick to sit behind him) but I still don't see GB trading him away. 

GB has been laying the path for Rodgers leaving for a few years now. They're tired of him and vice versa. 

 

[Ben Had]

33 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

 

Such a crazy trip ahead...

The "hat man" wouldn't stand a chance in NY/Jersey...

 

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, pointman said:

Hey guys, DM me your shirt and head sizes. I am having our Super Bowl champions shirts, hoodies, and crowns printed as we speak. 

Note:  @The Crusher doesn't have a shirt size, he just cuts holes in tablecloths.  So just be sure to order him a Super Bowl tablecloth.  Thx.

[y2k8]

25 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Trading for Rodgers is idiotic on so many many levels. It is much different than the Favre situation. 

Favre LOVED football. If his body had stayed in tact he would have played till he was 50.

Rodgers is very good at football. It has never ever seemed like he loves football and he is already half retired.

If we are dumb enough to trade for him, I would put it at 50/50 he actually ever starts a game. First whiff of something he does not like and he is out. And good luck seeing him until the first day of training camp.

NY Jets -repeating the same mistakes over and over and over and over.

To be fair, the Jets have wasted 3 top five picks and another 2 top of the 2nd round picks on QBs since the last time they acquired a future HoF QB from the Packers.

It seems to me drafting 5 unprepared children is the mistake we make over and over. 

[The Crusher]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Note:  @The Crusher doesn't have a shirt size, he just cuts holes in tablecloths.  So just be sure to order him a Super Bowl tablecloth.  Thx.

Partly for the comfy fit but mostly because I try to trick people to put food on me,. 

[hawk]

18 minutes ago, undertow said:

I actually prefer the opposite....I don't want to commit to Carr long term would rather go all in with Rodgers for a few years and draft another guy down the road.  Carr and the Jets will be like Cousins and the Vikings...lot's of reagular seasons wins and early outs.

How are you committing long term.  If you trade he has little to no dead cap space? If you give him a new contract it can be done with an out in 2 years.

[FTL Jet Fan]

30 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Trading for Rodgers is idiotic on so many many levels. It is much different than the Favre situation. 

Favre LOVED football. If his body had stayed in tact he would have played till he was 50.

Rodgers is very good at football. It has never ever seemed like he loves football and he is already half retired.

If we are dumb enough to trade for him, I would put it at 50/50 he actually ever starts a game. First whiff of something he does not like and he is out. And good luck seeing him until the first day of training camp.

NY Jets -repeating the same mistakes over and over and over and over.

He wanted to go to the Vikings the Jets where his conduit.

[CanadienJetsFan]

Gene Simmons knows nothing about football.

[undertow]

31 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Trading for Rodgers is idiotic on so many many levels. It is much different than the Favre situation. 

Favre LOVED football. If his body had stayed in tact he would have played till he was 50.

Rodgers is very good at football. It has never ever seemed like he loves football and he is already half retired.

If we are dumb enough to trade for him, I would put it at 50/50 he actually ever starts a game. First whiff of something he does not like and he is out. And good luck seeing him until the first day of training camp.

NY Jets -repeating the same mistakes over and over and over and over.

There's nothing factual about this opinion it's just emotions based on dislike for a player....Rodgers played every game last year and played through injury during the GB playoff push.  Rodgers worst year compares to Carrs best it's strange this is even a debate.

[extmenace]

2 hours ago, David Harris said:

I believe the Raiders have to make the Carr decision within 3 days after the SB.

Do we have any idea when we might get resolution on the Rodgers outcome?

I’d imagine the jets would put a time limit on a deal if Rodgers said he was interested or the packers said they were definitely moving on…

[jgb]

3 hours ago, pointman said:

Hey guys, DM me your shirt and head sizes. I am having our Super Bowl champions shirts, hoodies, and crowns printed as we speak. 

If you haven’t already tattooed your taint you’re a SOJF.

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, extmenace said:

I’d imagine the jets would put a time limit on a deal if Rodgers said he was interested or the packers said they were definitely moving on…

Been at the table lots of times. Whenever the other side tries to impose a time limit, I know I got them where I want them. They care about the timeline? Then they must be willing to give up something to achieve that.

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, Gangrene said:

 

Such a crazy trip ahead...

Come to Gotham, focus on the Batman.

[faba]

Hey at least it would keep the Jets relevant -Packers would most likely want two first round picks as part of the deal you people willing to give that up?

[playtowinthegame]

2 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

They gave up picks and took him 3rd, that makes Lance their Sam Darnold, not Zach Wilson. 

I know it’s not easy trying to keep track of our QB busts, but that one was easy.

 

The only thing comparable is Darnold and Lance were 3rd overall picks.

The Jets gave up 3 second round picks to move up from No. 6 overall to No. 3 overall. to select Sam Darnold, USC.

On the other hand the 49ers gave up 3 first round picks and a 3rd round pick to move up from No. 12 overall to No. 3 overall to select Trey Lance, North Dakota St.

Take a look at what the Dolphins cashed in from the 49ers for the right to pick 3rd overall. Now compare that to what the Colts got from the Jets. Big difference my friend. Add to that Joe Douglas traded Darnold for a 2nd, 4th, and a 6th round pick. Nobody is giving that up for Trey Lance. Nobody. 

Mar 17, 2018

Jets traded to Colts:
2018 1st round pick (6th overall, Quenton Nelson)
2018 2nd round pick (37th overall, Braden Smith)
2018 2nd round pick (49th overall subsequently traded, Dallas Goedert)
2019 2nd round pick (34th overall, Rock Ya-Sin)

Colts traded to Jets:
2018 1st round pick (3rd overall, Sam Darnold)

Year	Age	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	QBR
Care	Care		56	55	21-34-0	1054	1765	59.7	11767	61	55	78.2
3 yr	3 yr	NYJ	38	38	13-25-0	729	1219	59.8	8097	45	39	78.6
2 yr	2 yr	CAR	18	17	8-9-0	325	546	59.5	3670	16	16	77.3
2018	21	NYJ	13	13	4-9-0	239	414	57.7	2865	17	15	77.6	45.9
2019	22	NYJ	13	13	7-6-0	273	441	61.9	3024	19	13	84.3	45.6
2020	23	NYJ	12	12	2-10-0	217	364	59.6	2208	9	11	72.7	32.9
2021	24	CAR	12	11	4-7-0	243	406	59.9	2527	9	13	71.9	33.2
2022	25	CAR	6	6	4-2-0	82	140	58.6	1143	7	3	92.6	48.3

Vs.

Mar 26, 2021

49ers traded to Dolphins:
2021 1st round pick (12th overall *subsequently traded, Micah Parsons)
2022 1st round pick (29th overall subsequently traded, Cole Strange)
2022 3rd round pick (102nd overall, Channing Tindall)
2023 1st round pick (30th overall, subsequently traded to Denver for Bradley Chubb)
* for Eagles 2021 1st round pick (6th overall pick, Jaylen Waddle)

Dolphins traded to 49ers:
2021 1st round pick (3rd overall, Trey Lance)

Year	Age	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	QBR
Care	Care		8	4	2-2-0	56	102	54.9	797	5	3	84.5
2021	21	SFO	6	2	1-1-0	41	71	57.7	603	5	2	97.3	33.4
2022	22	SFO	2	2	1-1-0	15	31	48.4	194	0	1	55.0	34.8

 

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

If Rodgers actually gets here, does Saleh keeping throwing bones in these pressers about “commitment” to “the future” in Zach Wilson?

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, faba said:

Hey at least it would keep the Jets relevant -Packers would most likely want two first round picks as part of the deal you people willing to give that up?

The Packers can want whatever. They aren't getting 2 first round picks from anyone for a 39 year old QB on a monster contract who openly ponders retirement every offseason.

[GreenFish]

Watching the AFCC, the Jets D and Offensive Weapons are good enough to compete with those teams.

Along with getting Rodgers, the key is going to be retooling the OL.

[Sperm Edwards]

2 minutes ago, faba said:

Hey at least it would keep the Jets relevant -Packers would most likely want two first round picks as part of the deal you people willing to give that up?

Depends how many teams are offering that.

Once they're entertaining offers, he's done in Green Bay. At that point the Jets don't have to cave to the Packers' demands; they just need to be the the team offering the 2nd-most.

Just because they want it doesn't mean they'll get it. Conventional wisdom suggests he has 2 more years left in this contract and isn't hanging onto the game as long as Brady after that. That's IF he doesn't call it quits after 1 season. 

We'll see what he costs & what he doesn't.

[GreenFish]

1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

If Rodgers actually gets here, does Saleh keeping throwing bones in these pressers about “commitment” to “the future” in Zach Wilson?

I think he will. The Jets are going to give Zach another chance. It’s just going to come 2 years down the road.

[Green Ghost]

13 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

 

The only thing comparable is Darnold and Lance were 3rd overall picks.

The Jets gave up 3 second round picks to move up from No. 6 overall to No. 3 overall. to select Sam Darnold, USC.

On the other hand the 49ers gave up 3 first round picks and a 3rd round pick to move up from No. 12 overall to No. 3 overall to select Trey Lance, North Dakota St.

Take a look at what the Dolphins cashed in from the 49ers for the right to pick 3rd overall. Now compare that to what the Colts got from the Jets. Big difference my friend. Add to that Joe Douglas traded Darnold for a 2nd, 4th, and a 6th round pick. Nobody is giving that up for Trey Lance. Nobody. 

Mar 17, 2018

Jets traded to Colts:
2018 1st round pick (6th overall, Quenton Nelson)
2018 2nd round pick (37th overall, Braden Smith)
2018 2nd round pick (49th overall subsequently traded, Dallas Goedert)
2019 2nd round pick (34th overall, Rock Ya-Sin)

Colts traded to Jets:
2018 1st round pick (3rd overall, Sam Darnold)

Year	Age	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	QBR
Care	Care		56	55	21-34-0	1054	1765	59.7	11767	61	55	78.2
3 yr	3 yr	NYJ	38	38	13-25-0	729	1219	59.8	8097	45	39	78.6
2 yr	2 yr	CAR	18	17	8-9-0	325	546	59.5	3670	16	16	77.3
2018	21	NYJ	13	13	4-9-0	239	414	57.7	2865	17	15	77.6	45.9
2019	22	NYJ	13	13	7-6-0	273	441	61.9	3024	19	13	84.3	45.6
2020	23	NYJ	12	12	2-10-0	217	364	59.6	2208	9	11	72.7	32.9
2021	24	CAR	12	11	4-7-0	243	406	59.9	2527	9	13	71.9	33.2
2022	25	CAR	6	6	4-2-0	82	140	58.6	1143	7	3	92.6	48.3

Vs.

Mar 26, 2021

49ers traded to Dolphins:
2021 1st round pick (12th overall *subsequently traded, Micah Parsons)
2022 1st round pick (29th overall subsequently traded, Cole Strange)
2022 3rd round pick (102nd overall, Channing Tindall)
2023 1st round pick (30th overall, subsequently traded to Denver for Bradley Chubb)
* for Eagles 2021 1st round pick (6th overall pick, Jaylen Waddle)

Dolphins traded to 49ers:
2021 1st round pick (3rd overall, Trey Lance)

Year	Age	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	QBR
Care	Care		8	4	2-2-0	56	102	54.9	797	5	3	84.5
2021	21	SFO	6	2	1-1-0	41	71	57.7	603	5	2	97.3	33.4
2022	22	SFO	2	2	1-1-0	15	31	48.4	194	0	1	55.0	34.8

 

 

Dude, lol

[playtowinthegame]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

 

Zach Wilson No. 2 overall and Trey Lance No. 3 overall in back-to-back picks in the 2021 Draft. 49ers mortgaged their future to select Lance. 

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

49ers mortgaged their future to select Lance. 

Wish we held the note 

[rangerous]

I think Rodgers goes to the jets. Rodgers is zwilsons idol so there’s something cosmic about it. It’ll give the jets a season to straighten out zwilson ( or determine he can’t be) or maybe even get into a game or two. Rodgers has been pretty free of injury. At least the rest of the offense can’t blame their issues on bad qb play. And the combination of Hackett and Rodgers should at least have some good back and forth about play calling. I’m guessing Rodgers has enough of a relationship with Hackett that he can nix a play and he won’t get blamed if his play fails. Of course Rodgers has to get traded here first.

The down side is he’s maybe a two season rental and what happens after season two is anyones guess.  Could be the jets need to draft a qb this season to be waiting if zwilson flops.

[playtowinthegame]

18 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Dude, lol

I just got it! We have drafted so many bust it's hard to keep track of them. LMAO

 

[choon328]

36 minutes ago, faba said:

Hey at least it would keep the Jets relevant -Packers would most likely want two first round picks as part of the deal you people willing to give that up?

They're not going to get anything near that

[BCJet]

1 hour ago, JETS SB said:

Agree with this. Carr is a long term commitment. Rodgers gives us a chance at more than a wild card appearance. 

Its unfortunately not that simple.  Rogers' contract is a complete disaster and will have dead money in 2025 and I believe 2026, so he will actually be a long term commitment while not actually playing for a long time.  Its really prohibitive for a team to trade for him and  Simmons, while an amazing media/businessman, does not get into the weeds with stuff like this which is why he thinks Rogers to the jets is a done deal

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Rodgers has to be willing to restructure his deal for something to happen anytime soon.

Because otherwise it makes zero financial sense for the Packers to deal him before 6/1.

The dead money and cap ramifications are  astronomical.

[bla bla bla]

1 hour ago, JetsAddict said:

What about Tennessee?

Honestly not sure. It feels like most teams are in play for the same QBs

[jetswin]

2 hours ago, Gangrene said:

 

Such a crazy trip ahead...

[HawkeyeJet]

3 hours ago, Gangrene said:

 

Such a crazy trip ahead...

I saw a movie about this once.  It’s just a moth man.  Nothing to worry about.

[Integrity28]

5 hours ago, Gangrene said:

 

Such a crazy trip ahead...

@HessStation Drood?

[OilfieldJet]

There sure are some interesting QB’s in the draft….and I’m not talking about Round 1.

[HessStation]

25 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

@HessStation Drood?

Holy crap yes! Same deal.