varjet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 When I am looking to explode my brain, I head over to Over the Cap and try to figure this Aaron Rodgers contract out. But I keep coming back to the same two things: 1) Aaron Rodgers would be crazy to amend that contract to pay him less in 2023-2024. 2) The Jets would be crazy to assume this contract in its current form. Then the bonus point-of course the Green Bay Packers are trying to get some sucker team to give them multiple high draft picks to assume this mess. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085#:~:text=Contract Notes,%24150.66 million in injury guarantees. https://overthecap.com/looking-ahead-to-the-packers-options-with-aaron-rodgers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, pointman said: I made a thread asking others for their input. I can't definitively say a name. I am open to a good scheme fit with someone who has talent. I think we build with more offensive pieces through the draft and free agency, and then bring in a QB like Carr, pipedream Lamar, and/or wait to see who else shakes loose. We've seen top tier talent somehow become available (Russell Wilson, no one saw him falling apart) and the days of everyone being untouchable are over with. I think we have options. And maybe that wisconsin guys season wasn't just about his injured finger and talent loss. It might be the beginning of the end of what he once was. I don't need to take a gamble on what could be a costly (draft pick wise) 40 year old with a predisposition to pissing me off. Ok, instead of arguing lets discuss. Maybe his somewhat down season was because, Devante moved on, HIs former number one WR. He was getting chemistry with Doubs and he gets hurt and he did not have Watson for the start of the year. Watson came in and started getting some chemistry and looked good down the stretch. Now he had what 26 TD passes this year. He threw 12 picks , that is still a 2/1 ratio and over his career he is a 4/1 TD to interception ratio. The current Jets QB situation had 15 TD passes between 3 people. You can totally dislike the person, that's your prerogative but you cant deny the football player. He may suck as a person with his crazy, but the football player can still be a winner. If he can win, as long as he hasn't pulled a Deshaun Watson in his life or worse. I would like him helping the team and maybe fixing Zach in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Green Truth said: Ok, instead of arguing lets discuss. Maybe his somewhat down season was because, Devante moved on, HIs former number one WR. He was getting chemistry with Doubs and he gets hurt and he did not have Watson for the start of the year. Watson came in and started getting some chemistry and looked good down the stretch. Now he had what 26 TD passes this year. He threw 12 picks , that is still a 2/1 ratio and over his career he is a 4/1 TD to interception ratio. The current Jets QB situation had 15 TD passes between 3 people. You can totally dislike the person, that's your prerogative but you cant deny the football player. He may suck as a person with his crazy, but the football player can still be a winner. If he can win, as long as he hasn't pulled a Deshaun Watson in his life or worse. I would like him helping the team and maybe fixing Zach in the process. No no, I am totally enjoy our discussion. Not mad at you, I just loathe him and don't want him dirtying up the team I love. I think he is beginning his decline. Yes, a declined meatball is better than anything we field and I get that. But we aren't stuck between "him" or Mike White. There are options out there and more will be available. 40 years on this planet for a QB is a lot. I don't trust it or him. He was once great. Once. I don't think he is that same player. I think last year was him starting the decline. And once the wheels start to shimmy, its not long before the whole sumbich goes down. I want Zach to be great. And my hope is that a new OC and a veteran QB to watch and learn from will do just that. I think that meatball is the worst teacher we could ask for on a young, impressionable, struggling qb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, pointman said: No no, I am totally enjoy our discussion. Not mad at you, I just loathe him and don't want him dirtying up the team I love. I think he is beginning his decline. Yes, a declined meatball is better than anything we field and I get that. But we aren't stuck between "him" or Mike White. There are options out there and more will be available. 40 years on this planet for a QB is a lot. I don't trust it or him. He was once great. Once. I don't think he is that same player. I think last year was him starting the decline. And once the wheels start to shimmy, its not long before the whole sumbich goes down. I want Zach to be great. And my hope is that a new OC and a veteran QB to watch and learn from will do just that. I think that meatball is the worst teacher we could ask for on a young, impressionable, struggling qb. He is a year removed from a league MVP with the OC The Jets just hired. Brady won a Super Bowl at 43. Why cant Rodgers win a Super Bowl at 40? Zach will not be great until he sits behind a great. The kid has had everything handed to him his whole life. I believe Rodgers is the medicine he needs to be fixed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said: A man isn't the one making the decision. His GM will make the decision, and without a no-trade clause, Rodgers has no real say. Two things: that's not what he meant, Rodgers wanted to be involved on the personnel Green Bay is looking to acquire Rodgers could make it difficult without restructuring his contract for GB. Plus he could say he is retiring if he doesn't go the team of his choosing, therefore no compensation at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Yikes. Rodgers/Saleh marriage not going to go well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Green Truth said: He is a year removed from a league MVP with the OC The Jets just hired. Remind me, who designed that O and who called plays on O that year? Hint: It wasn't Hackett. 3 minutes ago, Green Truth said: Brady won a Super Bowl at 43. Why cant Rodgers win a Super Bowl at 40? The question is not "why can't he". The question "how will he". 3 minutes ago, Green Truth said: Zach will not be great until he sits behind a great. Zach will never, ever, be great. 3 minutes ago, Green Truth said: I believe Rodgers is the medicine he needs to be fixed. Rodgers is not a mentor or teacher, quite the contrary he doesn't believe in such things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Lith said: Lets not expand on the vaccine discussion in this thread. Keep it to football. Thanks It was worth a shot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Green Truth said: He is a year removed from a league MVP with the OC The Jets just hired. Brady won a Super Bowl at 43. Why cant Rodgers win a Super Bowl at 40? Zach will not be great until he sits behind a great. The kid has had everything handed to him his whole life. I believe Rodgers is the medicine he needs to be fixed. We all know his accolades. They don't matter at this stage of his career, imo. He has shown a decline, he is about to be 40. He has outlived the average career here. Brady is an anomaly not the standard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Answer to number one. Who knows were you in the room when they had the offensive meetings between Lafleur, Hackett and The soon to be Jets QB Aaron Rodgers. Answer to number two. Since you asked the question then answer it. Answer to number three. He has all the physical athletic skills. No reason he cant be after sitting. Answer to number four. I never said Rodgers was a mentor, but Zach could learn and watch and start to think differently over the next 2 years sitting behind the next NY Jets QB Aaron Rodgers. By the way bring back that ugly fish profile pick instead of slamming the Dead over Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, pointman said: We all know his accolades. They don't matter at this stage of his career, imo. He has shown a decline, he is about to be 40. He has outlived the average career here. Brady is an anomaly not the standard. Ok, That's great. You have the right to believe that. I just do not feel the Jets are thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Green Truth said: Ok, That's great. You have the right to believe that. I just do not feel the Jets are thinking the same thing. I guarantee you they are weighing his production last season as well as his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, pointman said: I guarantee you they are weighing his production last season as well as his age. Maybe, but I do not think Woody see's it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Green Truth said: No, but to cement your legacy NY is the place to be. Enough of the clowns on this site. I get it your trying to be funny. manning has a pretty decent legacy and he played indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 20 minutes ago, Green Truth said: Maybe, but I do not think Woody see's it that way. He definitely weighs it or he is a much larger moron than we thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, neckdemon said: manning has a pretty decent legacy and he played indy. Really, do you put him up on the same platform as Brady. Other than the silly commercials. He is an afterthought to me. I think Montana and Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, pointman said: He definitely weighs it or he is a much larger moron than we thought. Maybe, but we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Jim Irrisay is a raging alcoholic with DWI's under his belt Woody was just the Ambassador to the UK for the United States government But this is the opinion of a guy wearing a tank top with a budlight can on his desk. Who played for the Colts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I would be surprised if he comes here. Every player says Hackett is a good OC and a players coach which fits the RS bill and he also would be the anti MLF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: I dont know but rogers to the jets is sounding more and more like a complete cluster F. Like maybe the worst thing the jets have ever done. AR is an ass. He sounds disgruntled. He does not sound like a guy that is looking forward to the future. He can retire at any moment. Wtf? The only way this does NOT go down a legendary mistake is if the draft compensation for his services are much much less than 2 1sts It would be disgusting if we pay two firsts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: I dont know but rogers to the jets is sounding more and more like a complete cluster F. Like maybe the worst thing the jets have ever done. AR is an ass. He sounds disgruntled. He does not sound like a guy that is looking forward to the future. He can retire at any moment. Wtf? The only way this does NOT go down a legendary mistake is if the draft compensation for his services are much much less than 2 1sts A player coming to the Jets just to 'retire' and collect a check.. no way that would ever happen to this historic organization! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So we’re going to get weekly doses of Rodgers talking to the packers via this podcast. Should be interesting lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, varjet said: When I am looking to explode my brain, I head over to Over the Cap and try to figure this Aaron Rodgers contract out. But I keep coming back to the same two things: 1) Aaron Rodgers would be crazy to amend that contract to pay him less in 2023-2024. 2) The Jets would be crazy to assume this contract in its current form. Then the bonus point-of course the Green Bay Packers are trying to get some sucker team to give them multiple high draft picks to assume this mess. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085#:~:text=Contract Notes,%24150.66 million in injury guarantees. https://overthecap.com/looking-ahead-to-the-packers-options-with-aaron-rodgers They don't need to ammend his contract but Rodgers can ammend it without losing money. Would just be to move cap hits around for Packers/other team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, pointman said: I don't know who that is, but I am losing my sh*t right now. I am embarrassed that I ever wanted this clown. He hates his own family, he hates packer nation that supported a bum like him, he probably hates tiramisu too. Just a really really bad person. If he came begging, I wouldn't take him. I hope we don't bring this guy in. I'll roll the dice with someone else. I don't need a 40 year old, smirking, self righteous egomaniac QB'ing the team I love. Forget that. This guy probably wanted to trade 7 first round picks for Watson. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffering since 77 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I know people don't like Rodgers for their own reasons, but I didn't realize the hate some have for him. Are these the same people that were probably cool to have M Vick play for their beloved team? Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Suffering since 77 said: I know people don't like Rodgers for their own reasons, but I didn't realize the hate some have for him. Are these the same people that were probably cool to have M Vick play for their beloved team? Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app People hate Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Suffering since 77 said: I know people don't like Rodgers for their own reasons, but I didn't realize the hate some have for him. Are these the same people that were probably cool to have M Vick play for their beloved team? Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app I don’t like what I know about Rodgers as a human (no, it’s not about the alternative views he holds) but I also don’t care when it comes to whether he should be a Jet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffering since 77 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 People hate Rodgers? Apparently some do. Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, bla bla bla said: 1) if not legacy what other reason for a trade? He already has the contract and has said he still thinks he can play MVP ball 2) change his statement to say NJ then, statement is valid. Winning with the NYJ given our history will go much further than winning a SB anywhere else on the country. Joe Namath is still JOE FN NAMATH 54 years later. Winning a SB with the Jets would be an even bigger accomplishment than Messier with the Rangers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffering since 77 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I don’t like what I know about Rodgers as a human (no, it’s not about the alternative views he holds) but I also don’t care when it comes to whether he should be a Jet.I understand. I could care less about him, but for some reason I'd rather him then Carr, or Jimmy. Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Another fool doesn’t realize Woody Johnson has nothing to do with J & J To be more accurate: J&J has nothing to do with Woody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Suffering since 77 said: I understand. I could care less about him, but for some reason I'd rather him then Carr, or Jimmy. Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app I’d take either and be happier than I am right now. Yes all come with concerns but running it back with last year’s QB room isn’t an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Suffering since 77 said: I understand. I could care less about him, but for some reason I'd rather him then Carr, or Jimmy. Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app Woodys grandfather fired Woodys father. And that was the end of Woody ever doing anything at the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Suffering since 77 said: Apparently some do. Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app He’s definitely different. Not hateable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, Suffering since 77 said: I know people don't like Rodgers for their own reasons, but I didn't realize the hate some have for him. Are these the same people that were probably cool to have M Vick play for their beloved team? Sent from my SM-G930V using JetNation.com mobile app Don’t worry - they hate everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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