varjet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, LockeJET said: I would’ve made this deal in a heartbeat. Pick 13 and next years 2nd. And get a 3rd back in 24. I would’ve had no problem sh*t canning Saleh for the same deal. I am with you on that. That price to transform the Jets culture and offensively would have been worth it. Maybe he figures out Zippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Great deal for new orleans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The big mystery here is that the Broncos wanted DeMeco Ryans first, who is really a slightly upgraded version of Saleh, rather than a coach who is supposedly transformational. I understand Payton's price is alot higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Payton is no sure thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Payton is no sure thing. Yes, he is. SEE: Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston's numbers when paired with Payton. He's overseen 7 of the top 35 offenses in NFL history, by yardage, including the # 1 all-time (2011). That isn't fully a credit to Drew Brees. Love how so many here are quick to sh*t on Sean Payton when a lot of those same folks think Jets QB's here were largely "failed" by poor coaching. I guess coaching only matters in certain circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Payton is no sure thing. He is not. I would rather have Payton than Saleh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 42 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Wow. That's a lot. As long as it works out they'll be fine. But if it doesn't... look out If it doesn’t, it looks like the Idzik years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, varjet said: He is not. I would rather have Payton than Saleh. So would I but not at the cost of a 1st and 2nd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilos Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: At the rate Jets HC's last - which one is longer ? Very true. Would be so Jetsy to get both Rodgers and Payton and still be drafting a new QB with a 1st year HC in 2025!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilos Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: At the rate Jets HC's last - which one is longer ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, he is. SEE: Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston's numbers when paired with Payton. He's overseen 7 of the top 35 offenses in NFL history, by yardage, including the # 1 all-time (2011). That isn't fully a credit to Drew Brees. Love how so many here are quick to sh*t on Sean Payton when a lot of those same folks think Jets QB's here were largely "failed" by poor coaching. I guess coaching only matters in certain circumstances. Saying he is not a sure thing is sh*tting on him? I know your world is totally back and white you either lover or hate every thing but not for most people. He is the guy that thought taysom hill was the answer at QB and gave him huge dollars. He has a Rodgers liker resume, one super bowl and a lot of ultimate failure when it counts later in his career. Good coach? Yes for sure and good connections to get a good staff as well. Better than what the Jets have? For sure. Overall? Not a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Lith said: Even if we could have made the same deal, I doubt Woody would have been able to outbid the Broncos ownership on Payton's contract. Able to yes willing to not a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said: That Hall of Fame QB wasn’t a Hall of Fame QB until he played for Payton. He was a castoff, actually. Also, one is in his prime, the other is in the twilight of his career. Last, one counts against the salary cap, one doesn’t. He wasn’t a castoff. He beat out Rivers in consecutive years to start. Then even after a bad shoulder injury, Chargers offered him top QB money to stay. But it had a heavy incentive component to protect the team in case the shoulder wasn’t right. Brees rejected it for a more traditional contract from a desperate NO team, and because he didn’t want to deal with Rivers breathing down his neck. Obviously in hindsight this appears to have been a very wise choice. Brees and Payton were obviously symbiotic and benefitted greatly from each other but Brees wasn’t some work-a-day schlub that Payton plucked off the trash heap, shined up, and presto a FQB from garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, he is. SEE: Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston's numbers when paired with Payton. He's overseen 7 of the top 35 offenses in NFL history, by yardage, including the # 1 all-time (2011). That isn't fully a credit to Drew Brees. Love how so many here are quick to sh*t on Sean Payton when a lot of those same folks think Jets QB's here were largely "failed" by poor coaching. I guess coaching only matters in certain circumstances. He also has some absurd winning % in games Brees missed during his long tenure in NO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Payton is no sure thing. He was by far the surest thing available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Lith said: Surprised the Broncos have any picks left to send to NO after the Russ deal last year. I have a pretty good idea who the last team to be taken will be in our mock draft this year. They have Miami's.. which if somehow, Fangio ended up ditching the Dolphins to go back to the Broncos as DC.. would be hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, he is. SEE: Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston's numbers when paired with Payton. He's overseen 7 of the top 35 offenses in NFL history, by yardage, including the # 1 all-time (2011). That isn't fully a credit to Drew Brees. Love how so many here are quick to sh*t on Sean Payton when a lot of those same folks think Jets QB's here were largely "failed" by poor coaching. I guess coaching only matters in certain circumstances. It's amazing to me that so many people would rather maintain this continuous loop of people running the Jets that have never done anything and confidently dismissing those that have. It's like some actually enjoy the losing and don't ever want the Jets to be taken seriously in the NFL. Three years from now there will be threads monthly lamenting passing on this opportunity (as our latest and greatest defensive coordinator first time head coach is wrapping up his second 5 win season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, JetPotato said: It's amazing to me that so many people would rather maintain this continuous loop of people running the Jets that have never done anything and confidently dismissing those that have. It's like some actually enjoy the losing and don't ever want the Jets to be taken seriously in the NFL. “Want to go to prom with me?” ”Sorry, someone already asked me.” ”Well %*#^ you, as if I’d want to go with you anyway you trashy slag!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, jgb said: “Want to go to prom with me?” ”Sorry, someone already asked me.” ”Well %*#^ you, as if I’d want to go with you anyway you trashy slag!” Said "trashy slag": Jessica Alba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JetPotato said: Said "trashy slag": Jessica Alba It’s just an emotional salve for constant disappointment. Same as “we wouldn’t have gone far anyway had we made the playoffs.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Crazy sending first round picks to a team that he didn’t even coach this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, JetPotato said: He was by far the surest thing available. No he was the best candidate out there. No one coach or player is a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Lith said: Sounds like Penner got smacked around in the process, losing both DeMeco Ryans and Jim Harbaugh despite personal appeals in the last few days, and ultimately having to crawl back to Payton, who had all the leverage. What a mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Surprised he would go to Denver where they're saddled with Russell Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Saying he is not a sure thing is sh*tting on him? I know your world is totally back and white you either lover or hate every thing but not for most people. He is the guy that thought taysom hill was the answer at QB and gave him huge dollars. He has a Rodgers liker resume, one super bowl and a lot of ultimate failure when it counts later in his career. Good coach? Yes for sure and good connections to get a good staff as well. Better than what the Jets have? For sure. Overall? Not a sure thing. I feel like fans are not understanding how hard it is to win a superbowl lol. Using “1 Super Bowl” as if it’s a knock. The list is extremely limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Is Payton getting 20 million a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I’d rather have a 1st and 2nd RD pick instead of Sean Payton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35564875/sources-broncos-finalizing-deal-saints-sean-payton "This was the opportunity I was looking for," Payton told NOLA.com on Tuesday. "It's a great fanbase and great tradition," he added. "The ownership group is fantastic, and I love the way they competed in some of their games last year. It's a good football city that we had in New Orleans." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Rhg1084 said: I’d rather have a 1st and 2nd RD pick instead of Sean Payton It cost them #29 this year and they swapped next year's 2nd rounder for the Saints 3rd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I'd venture a guess that Payton went to Denver because they showed they were willing to make big bets to try to win and promised him the power to make all the decisions he wants. If the Broncos were trying to land Rodgers with Hackett, maybe they think Payton gets it done. I'm not sure what they have left to trade GB though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: That Hall of Fame QB wasn’t a Hall of Fame QB until he played for Payton. He was a castoff, actually. Also, one is in his prime, the other is in the twilight of his career. Last, one counts against the salary cap, one doesn’t. This is a bit of an oversimplification - Brees had a pro bowl caliber year in 2004 with Marty S. The main concern with Brees before he hooked up with Payton was his health. He had already established that he could play. Obviously, Payton took him to new heights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: That Hall of Fame QB wasn’t a Hall of Fame QB until he played for Payton. He was a castoff, actually. Also, one is in his prime, the other is in the twilight of his career. Last, one counts against the salary cap, one doesn’t. Not so sure you can say that about Bree’s. He had a couple of really good seasons for the chargers. And he made the pro bowl. They just decided to go with rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 The NY Jets theme song... We love trashy leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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