Are the Raiders the Jets biggest threat for A. Rodgers?? - D. Adams would like a word

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8 minutes ago, Rob Moore said:

I did a small perusal of these cold weather games of Carr.  One was at Pitt this year, another was at Cincy in last years playoffs.

Of the remaining 5 games, 2 of them were against the eventual Super Bowl champs (eagles and chiefs) and another against the chiefs (Super Bowl runner up).

So all in all, 3/7 games were against a Super Bowl participant.

That's about as good as you can ask for haha

[GreenFish]

8 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

A Rodgers will be a Raider( don’t want him ) but the deal is done already.   Facts A Rodgers just recently bought a house in Vegas in the same neighborhood as Devante Adams .( last year Adams bought one right next to Carr well before the trade was made.     Devante Adams knows he will be a Raider.  ( Mcdaniels hinting it too) 
Raiders despite all their injuries on offense last year( no Waller and Hunter Renfrow ) they blew more double digit leads in the second half .   They should easily been a playoff team if not for some really bad coaching decisions . They got so conservative on offense in the second half.  

The draft compensation for A Rodgers isn’t going to be what you expect . A Rodgers has fully guarantee contract the Packers are screwed if he retires or comes back .  ( doesn’t want to be there). He has the Packers by the balls. Yes the Raiders  need work on defense but with eleven draft picks and Fa ( who wouldn’t want to play with Rodgers, one top Wr ( D Adams) and the leading NFL Rb Josh Jacobs .   Raiders do have some nice pieces on defense they just need a lot more help on that side .    ( still need a Rt on offense, real number 2 Wr. ) 

With A Rodgers and their offensive weapons healthy  they can compete with any team in the AFC or the nfl .     But what this is a two year window at best , and a Rodgers is an ahole .   Can’t stand his politics or the man but unfortunately will be a Raider  next  year.   Done deal.     
 

Btw you don’t want D Carr for one reason he’s terrible when weather gets under 30 degrees - never won a game yet .   Carr can win a Super Bowl but will have to be a team with done, or warm weather . 

 

 

 

 

Seems like Rodgers to the Raiders is heating up. Good luck. This is likely another swing and miss by the Jets.

Im expecting Carr to go to NOLA.

We’ll be stuck with Jimmy G or Tannehill. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

 

[Mogglez]

8 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

 

Got debunked the other day.  Fake account using a stock photo who claims to work for the associated press.  Doesn’t even exist.  Accounts like this are running rampant.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Got debunked the other day.  Fake account who claims to work for the associated press.  Doesn’t even exist.  Accounts like this are running rampant.

Ah ok

Didn’t know

Thanks

[CSNY]

On 2/4/2023 at 11:58 PM, shuler82 said:

Jimmy G? Think you mean Baker

Unfortunately Baker is probably going to be the 2023 Jets starting QB. He wins job by default as the current QBs on the Jets are absolutely freaking horrible 

[Adoni Beast]

7 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Got debunked the other day.  Fake account using a stock photo who claims to work for the associated press.  Doesn’t even exist.  Accounts like this are running rampant.

[Embrace the Suck]

Are the Raiders the Jets biggest threat for A. Rodgers?? - D. Adams would like a word

Rodgers should reply "You blew up a good thing for some extras cash. I'm good, enjoy Vegas".

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Mogglez said:

Got debunked the other day.  Fake account using a stock photo who claims to work for the associated press.  Doesn’t even exist.  Accounts like this are running rampant.

Bad Boy of Scoops.

[Sperm Edwards]

6 hours ago, batman10023 said:

 

this was the bolded part

 98% of his compensation for the next 2 seasons is due via a lump bonus check each year, so essentially ALL of it is subject to his team's state taxes. 

do you have proof or anywhere we can confirm that he has to pay state taxes on all of his (98%) compensation?    this doesn't seem right.  thanks.

He pays taxes in in his team's state, for any checks the team pays him. If 98% of his pay is signing bonus, then it's subject to the taxes of his home team's state.

The only ones he pays other states' taxes would be road games in those other states, where he pays taxes on those game checks. But his base salary is so little, it comes to about $70K per road game the way his current contract is structured.

[Dunnie]

He pays taxes in in his team's state, for any checks the team pays him. If 98% of his pay is signing bonus, then it's subject to the taxes of his home team's state.
The only ones he pays other states' taxes would be road games in those other states, where he pays taxes on those game checks. But his base salary is so little, it comes to about $70K per road game the way his current contract is structured.

So Woody cuts him an early signing bonus check for the difference .. or some other round about way of making him whole

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[Sperm Edwards]

3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

So Woody cuts him an early signing bonus check for the difference .. or some other round about way of making him whole

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 

I'll just presume you're not being serious.

[Barry McCockinner]

https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/the-black-hole-plus/aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-mark-davis-dave-ziegler-josh-mcdaniels-las-vegas-raiders

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Owner Mark Davis loved the idea of adding Tom Brady, and Josh McDaniels wanted an experienced leader. But now we know that after considering making a move for Rodgers if he were to become available, the Raiders are looking in different directions. They aren't waiting for Rodgers or the Green Bay Packers to part ways.

 

[Beerfish]

The list of teams that want Aaron Rodgers at his salary cost, cap cost, cost to obtain pick wise and personality is as follows:

The New York Jets

[choon328]

8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/the-black-hole-plus/aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-mark-davis-dave-ziegler-josh-mcdaniels-las-vegas-raiders

 

If this is accurate it should keep the trade cost down

[BigRy56]

The Raiders are out now? Is there anybody outside the Jets that is in on Rodgers? Feels like this is falling right into the Jets lap

[slimjasi]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The list of teams that want Aaron Rodgers at his salary cost, cap cost, cost to obtain pick wise and personality is as follows:

The New York Jets

If this isn't a red flag, I don't know what is

LOL

[David Harris]

Nobody knows anything.

 

[T0mShane]

26 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

If this isn't a red flag, I don't know what is

LOL

Same list as teams “interested” in Derek Carr.

[T0mShane]

There’s a nice symmetry between Rodgers and Derek Carr having to hope the dog-ass Jets org wants one or either of them, like a desperate and fading Sharon Stone hitting up Joe Pesci for sex in Casino.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Same list as teams “interested” in Derek Carr.

Sort of - we know at least the Saints want Carr.

Regardless, at least Carr costs no draft capital and is 8 (!!!!) years younger. 

The argument for Rodgers seems to be hoping he's still an elite QB who just randomly had a down year . . . at age 39. 

 

 

 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

On 2/2/2023 at 9:00 AM, Zachtomims47 said:

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-news-and-rumors-jets-raiders-aaron-rodgers/

During Shrine Bowl week, a source told PFN that receiver Davante Adams is lobbying hard to bring Rodgers to the Raiders. That was further confirmed this week. People also believe Rodgers would play the Jets against the Raiders to procure a better deal for himself. 

In fact, one source said that general manager Joe Douglas is admitting to people in the league the franchise will go all out in the attempt to bring Rodgers to Gang Green. And it only makes sense.

 

Nobody is a threat. Not the Raiders, not the Jets. Green Bay wants Rodgers. Rodgers wants Green Bay. This whole conversation was just a tool for YouTubers to get views and likes. 

 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Sort of - we know at least the Saints want Carr.

Regardless, at least Carr costs no draft capital and is 8 (!!!!) years younger. 

The argument for Rodgers seems to be hoping he's still an elite QB who just randomly had a down year . . . at age 39. 

 

 

 

Yeah but even in Rodgers “down” year, he was still better than Carr, and Carr had an infinitely better supporting cast. 

[Barry McCockinner]

10 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Sort of - we know at least the Saints want Carr.

Regardless, at least Carr costs no draft capital and is 8 (!!!!) years younger. 

The argument for Rodgers seems to be hoping he's still an elite QB who just randomly had a down year . . . at age 39. 

 

 

 

2020 League MVP, 2021 league MVP, broken thumb 39 year old down year after the team shipped out Davante Adams.

I'd bet he's got some high end juice left.

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah but even in Rodgers “down” year, he was still better than Carr, and Carr had an infinitely better supporting cast. 

Two problems here:

 

1) Their numbers from last year are very comparable. Rodgers was slightly better. 

2) More importantly, Carr also had a down year. Who is more likely to have a rebound year  - the 31 year old or the 39 year old who just sat in a dark room for a few days to figure out if he even wants to play anymore?

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

I'd bet he's got some high end juice left.

and I wouldn't 

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah but even in Rodgers “down” year, he was still better than Carr, and Carr had an infinitely better supporting cast. 

Packers had like the 6th ranked defense vs year after year 30th ranked D for Carr and that does in fact make a big difference to how good QBs look. 

[Beerfish]

It comes down to this imo.

Actual cash paid out is no issue, cap implications is probably similar.

With Rodgers the Jets get him probably for two years and of course he has the higher ceiling than Carr.  It also is a better situation for Zac wilson, not that Rodgers is going to be some great mentor but two years behind Rodgers is a good thing for the Jets.  I know most fans are totally aghast at this but I think it is the reality for the Jets, they see two years or Rodgers and wilson learning something a good thing.

With Carr, he is not going to settle for a short term deal, if you get him he is your guy for like 4 years minimum.  Thus you are closing the door on Wilson and just hoping you van get something for him at some point.

Carr = long term stability and a decent QB, Rodgers, higher ceiling but bigger risk and he brings Wilson back into the equation at some point.

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Two problems here:

 

1) Their numbers from last year are very comparable. Rodgers was slightly better. 

2) More importantly, Carr also had a down year. Who is more likely to have a rebound year  - the 31 year old or the 39 year old who just sat in a dark room for a few days to figure out if he even wants to play anymore?

Was it a down year for Carr? Because he’s been pretty consistently meh. 
 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Packers had like the 6th ranked defense vs year after year 30th ranked D for Carr and that does in fact make a big difference to how good QBs look. 

Great QBs with bad defenses should be putting up astronomical numbers.

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Was it a down year for Carr? Because he’s been pretty consistently meh. 
 

Uhm - yes?

Look at completion percentage, yards/attempt and QB rating.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

With Rodgers the Jets get him probably for two years and of course he has the higher ceiling than Carr.  It also is a better situation for Zac wilson, not that Rodgers is going to be some great mentor but two years behind Rodgers is a good thing for the Jets. 

They’re not sitting on Zach Wilson for two years and then hope he’s resolved his issues. The only way we see Wilson again is if Rodgers/Carr/Tannehill get hurt, and even that’s be debatable because Mike White is gonna walk and they’ll be bringing in a new QB3, who will undoubtedly be better than Wilson. 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Uhm - yes?

Look at completion percentage, yards/attempt and QB rating.

His career yards/attempt is .1 more than Mike White’s y/a

[slimjasi]

Just now, T0mShane said:

His career yards/attempt is .1 more than Mike White’s y/a

and 0.2 less than Stafford (!). Not sure why we are bringing up MyQuite other than him maybe being your sports crush? 

[oatmeal]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

His career yards/attempt is .1 more than Mike White’s y/a

I can’t believe we actually live in a world where Derek Carr vs Aaron Rodgers is even being debated