Instead of SF we need to model ourselves after the Eagles

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, derp said:

Moving down in the draft has been huge for the Eagles. Turned the sixth pick in 2021 and Wentz into DeVonta Smith and two extra first round picks in 2022. The three first round picks in 2022 turned into Jordan Davis, AJ Brown, and the tenth pick in 2023 from the Saints.

They're done an awesome job building up front on both sides but also acquiring playmakers. Really well built team.

Every year, every mock, I want to trade down, for exactly that reason. 

[Biggs]

1 hour ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

But but but he drafted Carson Wentz with the #2 pick.  Why wasn't he held accountable for this epic fail?  Why wasn't he fired for bringing in a small college QB and thinking he was the real deal?  You mean a GM can actually, like, improve with time on the job?  It's not apparent after three drafts whether he is good or not?  I'm so confused.

Because they won a SB and had a HC and staff that got the bum playing at an MVP level.  The didn't move him for an expired box of dog biscuits.  

[faba]

Well to put this in perspective just about eveyone was questioning Hurts as a legit starter before the year started. See what happens when you have a reliable guy under center to build around

[hmhertz]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

We should grab a guy from the eagles front office 

We did and it was the wrong guy. Big mistake in choosing Hackett.

Should have gone with Brian Johnson. To hell with chasing veteran coaches

and veteran QBs, I'd rather we went with Johnny and had him find and

develop our own Jalen Hurts type

[kevinc855]

I was told success takes 5 years 

[56mehl56]

1 hour ago, Zachtomims47 said:

The Eagles just came together all at once. 

Reddick was a big time FA.

Graham normally averages 4-5 sacks a year.

Sweat in his fifth year, never had double digit sacks. Same for Hargrave. 

Jets are right there IMO. Need a more consistent pass rusher like Reddick. 

What they really need is a big body run stuffer inside DT. 

[slimjasi]

34 minutes ago, BurntDice said:

It’s close I think. They obliterated the Vikings and other teams. With Dak playing who knows 

I’m not a big Dak person, but you could be right. 
 

Dallas also has a very good roster 

[ScarletKnight89]

I mean, Joe Douglas has been trying to build the offensive and defensive lines since he's been here. He just hasn't been very good at it lol. 

Defensive line obviously is in much better shape right now. While an elite edge rusher has yet to step forward, they have some promising young players in Clemons, Huff, and JJ. They also have an elite interior lineman in Quinnen Williams. 

The offensive line still needs a lot of worker. The Becton pick looms large. 

[derp]

38 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Every year, every mock, I want to trade down, for exactly that reason. 

For sure. I know it’s easier said than done, but I see Douglas consistently trading up (three moves up in the first two rounds the last two years, and had another one lined up the year before - also traded down once) while Roseman continues to get returns from moving down.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, Zachtomims47 said:

I mean the Jets were 7th overall in Sacks lol. That's not terrible. 

I was going to say.  The Eagles had 70 sacks.  The Chiefs were 2nd with 55(!).  If you took the Eagles out of the equation the entire league was within 20 sacks of each other with the Jets pretty much in the middle.

[68JET11]

Most teams in the NFL will not have success if you don't build from the inside out... Teams with superstar QB's are not the norm. There are a few that can have success when the interior is not the best, but that is the exception, not the rule. Since we don't have one of those QB's we need to focus this draft on OL / LB / S / WR... This draft is about trading down and grabbing as many good OL as we can. If we can't build a stable line, then we're average at best.

[hmhertz]

23 minutes ago, derp said:

For sure. I know it’s easier said than done, but I see Douglas consistently trading up (three moves up in the first two rounds the last two years, and had another one lined up the year before - also traded down once) while Roseman continues to get returns from moving down.

Moving down in the way you acquire ammunition. The fact that we didn't

have a pick after the fourth was disgraceful. Trading up for AVT was a mistake.

The Vikings got  a player at least as highly regarded at a more important position

[BCJet]

2 minutes ago, hmhertz said:

Moving down in the way you acquire ammunition. The fact that we didn't

have a pick after the fourth was disgraceful. Trading up for AVT was a mistake.

The Vikings got  a player at least as highly regarded at a more important position

What????????

AVT was playing at an All-pro level when he got hurt and played 3 different positions on the OL including LT, so again I ask - what are you talking about?

 

[varjet]

40 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

I mean, Joe Douglas has been trying to build the offensive and defensive lines since he's been here. He just hasn't been very good at it lol. 

Defensive line obviously is in much better shape right now. While an elite edge rusher has yet to step forward, they have some promising young players in Clemons, Huff, and JJ. They also have an elite interior lineman in Quinnen Williams. 

The offensive line still needs a lot of worker. The Becton pick looms large. 

The JJ II pick will not be a "bust," but ultimately he will not grade as high as other players picked after him.  

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, frankiepapa said:

Don't forget the offensive line

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That's where I thought he was going with this.  Their OL is insane.

[hmhertz]

With the first third we could have had Joeseph Assai or Alim McNeil.

The second third could have garnered Barron Browning, Quinn Meirez ,

Almon St. Brown or Rhamonde Stevenson

[usapaw]

Eh, beat the Chiefs, then we will talk. 

[Flea Flicking Frank]

15 hours ago, Jetluv58 said:

We need a new owner. That’s when real and meaningful changes happen.

agree, or, our owner needs to change his ways, which won't happen when the fans continue to blame all problems on the young QB's instead of the real problem which is the owner

[SoFlaJets]

 

[C Mart]

Eagles' Nick Sirianni Remembers That Time Chiefs' Andy Reid Fired Him

By Dave Zangaro • Published February 7, 2023 • Updated 3 hours ago

PHOENIX — The day before Nick Sirianni flew with his team to Arizona for Super Bowl LVII, he was asked about his first encounter with Andy Reid.

You know, the time Andy fired him.

Back in 2013 after the Eagles fired Reid, he quickly got a job in Kansas City and had the difficult task of firing the the coaching staff led by Romeo Crennel that led the Chiefs to a 2-14 record in 2012.

The Chiefs’ receivers coach that year? Sirianni.

“What I appreciated was that he brought everybody in and talked to them,” Sirianni remembered on Saturday. “Unfortunately, it was the same thing I had to do (when I was hired by the Eagles in 2021).

“I didn’t coach with Andy but he gave me a good example of what do, unfortunately, of the hard part of the job of, ‘Hey, I got a guy here.’ And he was very complimentary. He knew I would be down so he gave me strength when I was down. And I appreciated that. And it sounds like that’s who he is as a person and as a coach.”

The guy Reid had lined up to coach receivers was David Culley, who held that position in Philly with Reid for all 14 seasons. So there just wasn’t a job for Sirianni.

But things obviously worked out for Sirianni. If he doesn’t get fired in Kansas City, he doesn’t end up in San Diego the following season. That’s where he met one of his biggest mentors in Frank Reich. That relationship led to the offensive coordinator job under Reich in Indianapolis.

And that led to Sirianni’s being named the head coach in Philly at age 39, just eight years after Reid fired him.

Sirianni believes everything happened for a reason.

“Did I want to leave Kansas City? No,” he said. “My future wife was from there and we were engaged at the time. But she was from there. She had a nice teaching job there, she had all her friends there, here mom and dad were a half hour down the road. Of course I didn’t want to leave there. But when I look at it, God’s always put me in great positions and guided my path. I know I don’t say stuff like that all the time, but I know he has.”

That doesn’t mean he was just fine with getting let go.

"Do you always have this little chip on your shoulder? Sure, you do," Sirianni said. "You’re always like … but that’s who I am as a coach, as a person. I want to make sure that I’m working my butt off to be as good as I possibly can. And sure you hold on to some of those things but at the end of the day. I told the story about my leg and how I injured my leg. I told some of you guys about that. I really went through that and I was like, hey, if I didn’t go through one of the worst experiences of my life with my life, then I know I wouldn’t be sitting in this seat today. So I had to go through that. Well, it’s the same thing here."

Even understanding how the NFL works, Sirianni was excited the following season when his Chargers played the then-9-1 Chiefs at Arrowhead in Week 12 of the 2013 season. It was an emotion return to KC for a coach who wears his emotions on his sleeve.

The Chargers won that game 41-38 after Philip Rivers hit Seyi Ajirotutu on a 26-yard touchdown with just 24 seconds remaining in the fourth quarter.

Sirianni was up in the booth for that game but he admitted he showed a ton of emotion in the press box, jumping up from his seat after the win. He’s become known for those fiery moments since he got the Philly and since the cameras have been focused on him.

“If I was the head coach, I guess they would have saw that there and people would have been talking about that,” Sirianni said, “that I was on the press box and going crazy like that. They just didn’t see it.”

But Sirianni’s personality is what makes him who he is.

Even though Reid knew that a decade ago. He had already made up his mind that Culley was obviously taking that receivers job on his staff. But Reid was impressed with Sirianni during that meeting.

“I loved his personality,” Reid said to Kansas City media last week. “He’s a guy that you can talk to and communicates well. He’s got a fire to him that you appreciate and the players appreciate. A personality, a good personality, and he’s smart. I had a chance to talk to him and he’s a smart kid. And I think he’s perfect for Philadelphia. That’s a tough place and he’s a tough kid. He relates well with the people there.”

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/eagles-nick-sirianni-andy-reid-fired-him/3492607/