Yankeesrbest Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Allen, Mahomes and Wilson. Hardly tell them apart. Look at Allen his 1st two to three years. Mahomes had the luxury of sitting behind a pretty good QB during his rookie season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said: Look at Allen his 1st two to three years. Mahomes had the luxury of sitting behind a pretty good QB during his rookie season. No you. Do a statistical analysis of Zach and Allen’s first two years and make the case Zach has shown reason to believe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said: Look at Allen his 1st two to three years. Mahomes had the luxury of sitting behind a pretty good QB during his rookie season. Allen could still run the offense and see open receivers even if he missed them a lot. Zach simply can’t run the offense and doesn’t see open receivers. 100% agree with you they handled him wrong, new OC, new system and a project QB with no sustainable vet option. But, that ship has sailed, kid simply cannot run the offense and play the game at this level. If we are going to develop a young QB we need to get one first. Because if we are being honest, we simply don’t have one, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Yankeesrbest said: Look at Allen his 1st two to three years. Mahomes had the luxury of sitting behind a pretty good QB during his rookie season. We are still doing this? lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 FACTS!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: Most likely, but you have to pay him anyway. You do not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Can we send him on loan to the XFL? Only place this trash will develop. Move on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Lame! Saleh did a great job with the plan for Zach. He just needed a better slogan. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Yankeesrbest said: Look at Allen his 1st two to three years. Mahomes had the luxury of sitting behind a pretty good QB during his rookie season. Allen is as much of an outlier as Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Warfish said: You do not. Zach's contract is guaranteed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Zach's contract is guaranteed Woody has to pay him, unless he is traded. So what, not my money. Trade him, or cut him and pay him. He's horrid. Either way, Jets are better off. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, Warfish said: Woody has to pay him, unless he is traded. So what, not my money. Trade him, or cut him and pay him. He's horrid. Either way, Jets are better off. Ah okay, see I think Zach's upside, no matter how unlikely, can provide a far greater return than the 3rd string QB we'd be bringing in. Unless Zach is ripping the locker room apart, I don't know why you'd feel so strongly about that slot he's taking up. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, FactsOnly said: FACTS!!!!! not really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viermoo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 He can develop while learning from the bench. The way it should’ve been done from the start.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 This is a myth. Mahomes sat for one year and was immediately Pat Mahomes. He would have been Pat Mahomes year one as well. Maybe slightly less Pat Mahomes than year two Pat Mahomes, but he still would have ended up being Pat Mahomes. Brock Purdy stepped in with ZERO development as a third string, last pick in the draft guy. If you want a QB to succeed, they first need to be good. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Untouchable said: Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face. Good luck with that one Go get Rodgers Even if they don’t get Rodgers I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t*ts in my face 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: This is a myth. Mahomes sat for one year and was immediately Pat Mahomes. He would have been Pat Mahomes year one as well. Maybe slightly less Pat Mahomes than year two Pat Mahomes, but he still would have ended up being Pat Mahomes. Brock Purdy stepped in with ZERO development as a third string, last pick in the draft guy. If you want a QB to succeed, they first need to be good. Alex Smith looked unsalvagable for years until Andy Reid got ahold of him... Just saying 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Yankeesrbest said: The reason Allen wasn’t as bad was because he had a ready O-line not the crap Wilson has had in front of him. I know a lot of Jets fans were in love with White, a guy who has five years in the league. Yeah, I’d expect him to be more experienced and have a better understanding of the defenses but even his quicker release didn’t help to keep healthy. He’s lucky the crappy O-line didn’t get him killed. They couldn’t open up holes for the running backs or protect their QBs. Things got bad after Breece went down and worse after Vera-Tucker went down. Allen's offensive line his rookie year was bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Yankeesrbest said: I’m done with the Jets bringing in old QBs to try to win for a season or two see Favre and O’Donnell. They need to develop Zach Wilson and should not have hired a rookie OC to develop a rookie QB. They also should have had an experienced QB from the get go of the kids carrier. This team was not good enough to get to the playoffs this year. They got lucky a few times during the year when they played hurt teams or the Browns blundered otherwise they would have had a worse record. Fix the OL through the draft preferably, add another running back and continue to add true talent to the roster to compete for several years to come not just 1 or 2. Good plan except for the Zach Wilson part, that ship has sailed... I'm all in on that plan if we can draft a Drake Maye in 2024, or someone like him in 2023, not named Young, Stroud, or Hooker. Get me a prospect from a school where they've been for 4 years, and someone 6'4 or taller that can throw, but is not very mentioned because he's been hidden away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 hours ago, BurntDice said: Time to quick google image search the second one for research purposes Prepare to be unimpressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: Alex Smith looked unsalvagable for years until Andy Reid got ahold of him... Just saying Go look at Alex Smiths year 2 compared to Wilson's. He was light years better than Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Can we send him on loan to the XFL? Only place this trash will develop. Move on. Isn’t that the league Hackenberg sucked ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, choon328 said: Go look at Alex Smiths year 2 compared to Wilson's. He was light years better than Wilson. He was a bust 5 years into the league... Whether you choose stats or not he was washed up... Zach had a terrible 2nd season... Ok... It's his ******* 2nd season... Yes he didn't grow from year 1 to year 2... Concerning.... Will he be good who knows but the guy has a cannon for an arm you don't give up just because he had a sh*t year... Year 3 and 4 are guaranteed anyway... So you let him cook behind a good qb and see what develops... All you doomers are freaking weird that want him off the team so bad... Worst case he is terrible after year 4 and you don't pick up his option for year 5... Best case he becomes Steve Young... Why would you not take that chance? It's not like his spot on the team is debilitating the team. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Gibby said: Sounds good in theory. But he absolutely stinks and cannot be developed. In the 5% chance I am wrong- I’ll eat crow- but feel pretty good about my opinion Guy looked pretty good at the end of his first season when he had a real QB coach helping out. But, hey, not having a real QB/passing coach seemed to really help out all 4 QBs - not to mention an OC who never game planned, and was as predictable as a Hckett/Shotty offense - maybe the now OC... oh hell, damn we are pretty screwed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Yankeesrbest said: I’ll bet you that they bring Rodgers in and he’ll be around for about 2 years. Maybe they make the playoffs maybe not and then the cycle of missing the playoffs begins again. The Bills developed Allen. Tell me he was good his 1st two-three seasons. No, he wasn’t but they showed patience with him and Allen has turned into a pretty good QB. The Chiefs had a veteran in place when they brought in Mahomes and he developed. Btw, both had good O-lines waiting for them. Oh and the Chiefs had the benefit of having Andy Reid an offensive wizard with experience and ability to develop young talent. Well no. If the jets sign Rodgers then they can sit Wilson for a season and get him ready to start in 24 or 25. Meanwhile the jets do win and take advantage of players like sauce, qwill, gWilson, hall, and so on. The downside is if they only try to develop Zach. They really need to draft a qb this draft to hedge their bets with Wilson. And if they’re serious about this path then they need to start coaching him up right now even if it takes putting Palmer on the payroll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Jets never have a plan for their rookie QB. They are always thrown into the fire day 1 on top of coming out of college with minimum experience. And usually paired with a head coach who doesnt know jack about offense. Complete disaster set ups. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 13 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: Anyone who thinks the Jets should focus on “developing Zach Wilson” should be tarred and feathered. I've heard it's good for your skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said: Prepare to be unimpressed Yea Sydney Sweeney and Betty Gilpin are definitely better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Warfish said: You do not. That’s incorrect, you have to pay Zach All first round contracts are fully guaranteed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Trotter said: Alexandra and Carla Gugino combined fir two of the best racks in a movie Neither of those broads have racks no wonder y’all takes are so bad on here ???? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 hours ago, ASH1962 said: This begs the question about our scouts and GM not noticing that this guy couldn't throw a golf ball into a soccer net. The Eagles and 9ers were dying to trade up and draft this kid, two great franchises another clueless take 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: This is a myth. Mahomes sat for one year and was immediately Pat Mahomes. He would have been Pat Mahomes year one as well. Maybe slightly less Pat Mahomes than year two Pat Mahomes, but he still would have ended up being Pat Mahomes. Brock Purdy stepped in with ZERO development as a third string, last pick in the draft guy. If you want a QB to succeed, they first need to be good. You think Brock Purdy balls here? LMFAO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Untouchable said: Yeah and I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t!ts in my face. Good luck with that one Go get Rodgers 3 hours ago, CSNY said: Even if they don’t get Rodgers I want Alexandra Daddario to shove her t*ts in my face If this is going to happen I'd like to join the queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, choon328 said: Go look at Alex Smiths year 2 compared to Wilson's. He was light years better than Wilson. My goodness another HORRIBLE take Alex Smith had 1 TD and 11 picks his first year, followed by putting up the same numbers Zach did his first season WRONG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Barton said: Jets never have a plan for their rookie QB. They are always thrown into the fire day 1 on top of coming out of college with minimum experience. And usually paired with a head coach who doesnt know jack about offense. Complete disaster set ups. They did have a plan... He got killed... They never replaced him... Turns out it was a huge mistake... Because of this he didn't develop from year 1 to year 2... But now all these doomers want to get rid of him... Instead of having him learn at no cost. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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