Bronx Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 If we can't get Rodgers/Carr, go to the drawing board and draft a QB with a quality vet to mold him. It's time to put the Zach Wilson saga to rest and move forward with another young QB. Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Bills and many other teams have drafted and developed QBs. This organization should emulate these teams especially if plans A/B (Rodgers/Carr) are off the market. Thoughts? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Maybe mid rd., wouldn’t be crazy. Would be interested to hear from guys like DJ how Zach would rate bs this class. Is this class considered good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 It all depends on how FA & the Draft plays out. If we land a FA starting Qb prior to the draft then probably not. If that Qb ends up being a 1-2 yr. rental (Brissett, Minishew, Mayfield or Dalton) then I’d say yes if there is a Qb that JD & scouts like… but you can’t reach for a Qb & bypass a better talent. Only 6 picks this year to start. If AR(draft pick), Carr(maybe draft pick), JG or Tannehill(draft pick) are signed then you roll with ZW & White (if manageable $) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I've been on this train a few days now. Even if we do get Rodgers, what's the plan beyond that? You have to assume he only plays 1 year, I don't want to hear any crap about how he'll play more. So after that year, best case is you're left with zach? White may be gone in FA, and even if he stays, white and zach doesn't instill confidence. Therefore, you need to draft someone and start developing them for next year. Hence: HENDON HOOKER 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2023 If we end up with the Tannehill/Minshew/Brisset type guy, I would not be opposed to drafting another QB, as long as a guy we like is on the board when we pick. I would not wnt to go into the draft with the mindset of we have to pick a QB. At tht point, we may as well look to re-sign White as a back up. Zach is 3rd string and we head into the draft without the need to reach for a QB. IF we take a QB day 3, I woudl be fine with that, but I really hope we come out of days 1 & 2 with OL upgrade, WR and Safety. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Any scenario in which Zach is competing for the starting role should not be a plan. Moving on from Zach only begins with a clear cut starting qb in place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I really don't think there is any way they give up entirely on Zach. Drafting a QB in the top 2 rounds likely does that. Not to mention how much are you willing to spend to move up? I think it's likely we see: Texans - CJ Stroud Colts - Bryce Young Raiders - Will Levis Panthers - Anthony Richardson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Lith said: If we end up with the Tannehill/Minshew/Brisset type guy This would be an absolute disaster. A wasted year in which we have high end talent on cheap contracts. Everyone would be getting fired next year and the beat goes on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Absolutely should. Tannehill and draft Hooker. If Richardson falls- take him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: I've been on this train a few days now. Even if we do get Rodgers, what's the plan beyond that? You have to assume he only plays 1 year, I don't want to hear any crap about how he'll play more. So after that year, best case is you're left with zach? White may be gone in FA, and even if he stays, white and zach doesn't instill confidence. Therefore, you need to draft someone and start developing them for next year. Hence: HENDON HOOKER I'm in on this idea, if only for the possibility of me owning a HOOKER jersey in the future. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Bronx said: If we can't get Rodgers/Carr, go to the drawing board and draft a QB with a quality vet to mold him. It's time to put the Zach Wilson saga to rest and move forward with another young QB. Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Bills and many other teams have drafted and developed QBs. This organization should emulate these teams especially if plans A/B (Rodgers/Carr) are off the market. Thoughts? Would you actually trust the Jets to draft and develop a qb? Sorry, I do not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Bronx said: If we can't get Rodgers/Carr, go to the drawing board and draft a QB with a quality vet to mold him. It's time to put the Zach Wilson saga to rest and move forward with another young QB. Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Bills and many other teams have drafted and developed QBs. This organization should emulate these teams especially if plans A/B (Rodgers/Carr) are off the market. Thoughts? There’s also a plan D. Lots can happen in the span of a year and it’s not unreasonable to think Hackett can get zwilson better prepared to play at the nfl level than milfy. So while I wouldn’t want the jets to go into the season with Zach as the lone starter it does impact the level of vet they pick up and how long they think the vet will be the qb. And I would also want them to draft a qb. Not in the high rounds but a guy who can sit a year or two. It could even be that mfw is retained although then they’d have an awful lot of resources devoted to the qb position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 hours ago, DonCorleone said: Would you actually trust the Jets to draft and develop a qb? Sorry, I do not. History says so; but if this team wants to break this agony, they need to change the pathetic pattern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Lith said: IF we take a QB day 3, I woudl be fine with that, but I really hope we come out of days 1 & 2 with OL upgrade, WR and Safety. Agreed. Keep building upon last year’s draft class. Hoping the draft falls into our lap, with either trade back opportunities (no wasted draft capital this year) or players we targeted available when we pick. If there’s a Qb we like in round 5/6 grab him. Just make certain OC/OT, LB, S, Big WR has been addressed before pulling the trigger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, Lith said: If we end up with the Tannehill/Minshew/Brisset type guy, I would not be opposed to drafting another QB, as long as a guy we like is on the board when we pick. I would not wnt to go into the draft with the mindset of we have to pick a QB. At tht point, we may as well look to re-sign White as a back up. Zach is 3rd string and we head into the draft without the need to reach for a QB. IF we take a QB day 3, I woudl be fine with that, but I really hope we come out of days 1 & 2 with OL upgrade, WR and Safety. Not for nothing but Zach was doing okay in the first half of the season with a fairly intact oline and breece hall. Maybe he wasn’t lighting it up ( some people think a qb needs to throw for 300ypg) but he was getting the job done and, more importantly, getting wins. Of course you can say the same of mfw and even Flacco but at some point there can be only one qb. and I do want them to draft a qb. Not in the higher rounds but one who can sit a season or two. Find a guy who played and started all 4 seasons in a decent program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Draft Tanner McKee in the third if he gets there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Bronx said: If we can't get Rodgers/Carr, go to the drawing board and draft a QB with a quality vet to mold him. It's time to put the Zach Wilson saga to rest and move forward with another young QB. Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Bills and many other teams have drafted and developed QBs. This organization should emulate these teams especially if plans A/B (Rodgers/Carr) are off the market. Thoughts? If they do that then they should use a blindfold and do it “ pin the tail in the donkey” style. No way it can be any worse than how they have been doing it and a broken clock is right twice a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, freestater said: I'm in on this idea, if only for the possibility of me owning a HOOKER jersey in the future. More upside in that than anyone we have drafted at QB in more than a decade. I’m in! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bronx said: History says so; but if this team wants to break this agony, they need to change this pathetic pattern. I think that’s right. Unfortunately the rest of the team can’t wait until the qb gets developed. But that just means finding a qb on a short horizon in the hope that the drafted guy develops (could even be Zach at this point). What wouldn’t do is think the vet qb has to mentor the young guys. That’s just silly. A vet starter wants to keep his job not hand it off. I remember when some reporter asked Richard Todd what he was learning from joe willie. He said he learned the best bars to go to in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, rldev said: Draft Tanner McKee in the third if he gets there. I would endorse this move. I think once the combine comes around he's going to move up draft boards into the early to mid 2nd. He's the type of prospect you roll the dice on IMO perfect size, mobile, underperformed at Stanford after being the top recruit coming out of HS. I'd be surprised if we did it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I would endorse this move. I think once the combine comes around he's going to move up draft boards into the early to mid 2nd. He's the type of prospect you roll the dice on IMO perfect size, mobile, underperformed at Stanford after being the top recruit coming out of HS. I'd be surprised if we did it though. Fairly confident that, at least in the context of traits teams are looking for in quarterbacks these days, McKee is not considered mobile. They do need to keep taking shots, even outside the first. Every once in awhile there’s a Carr, Dalton, Cousins, Prescott, Wilson drafted outside the first who has sustained success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Bronx said: If we can't get Rodgers/Carr, go to the drawing board and draft a QB with a quality vet to mold him. It's time to put the Zach Wilson saga to rest and move forward with another young QB. Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers, Bengals, Ravens, Bills and many other teams have drafted and developed QBs. This organization should emulate these teams especially if plans A/B (Rodgers/Carr) are off the market. Thoughts? We absolutely should draft a QB. Almost every year. Until we find one. HOWEVER....We must sign a real vet who can go out and win at least a half a dozen games every year, or get us into the playoffs. This team has to start winning. Winning games breeds winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Bryce Young looks like a right-handed Tua with better wheels. And he’s under 6 feet with a frame not built to withstand NFL punishment. Suffice it to say I would not trade up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I want them to definitely draft a QB in this draft (not 1st round tho) and I want them to draft a QB in 2024 (any round depending on the class) as well regardless if they get AR and carry 3/4 QBs every season until we find a ⭐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I would endorse this move. I think once the combine comes around he's going to move up draft boards into the early to mid 2nd. He's the type of prospect you roll the dice on IMO perfect size, mobile, underperformed at Stanford after being the top recruit coming out of HS. I'd be surprised if we did it though. He’s not very mobile, he’s a pure pocket passer who needs to be protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He’s not very mobile, he’s a pure pocket passer who needs to be protected. Yea certainly closer to that than a runner, I've always sort of looked at it like: Statue - their mobility is a liability Mobile - can escape the pocket to extend play Runner - legs are a weapon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Wish we could’ve used plan B on some of our past and present QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Zero chance this staff / organization will draft a qb early in this draft. Jobs are on the line, it would be career suicide to spend a top draft pick on developmental qb that they won’t be around to see pan out. Later pick sure, it makes sense, but we won’t see a high pick used on a QB. Coaching staffs with job security can make that high pick on a qb, coaches on the hot seat are more focused on the now. A vet is coming and it’s up to the staff / front office to bag the right guy. If they can’t do it, they’ve failed to do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Unless we are bringing in a completely new coaching staff, this would be the most idiotic thing we could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 McKee or Hooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Can’t wait to see this board when the Jets draft another BYU QB this April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Absolutely need to take a qb prospect. If the jets did that regularly we wouldnt be in qb hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 We should be drafting a QB every year mid to late. Every. Single. Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, section314 said: Maybe mid rd., wouldn’t be crazy. Would be interested to hear from guys like DJ how Zach would rate bs this class. Is this class considered good? There are a couple guys slotted to go near the end of round two early third round I would love to take. Tanner McKey (3rd) Tyson Bagent (6th) Edited February 12, 2023 by Dunnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 4 hours ago, extmenace said: Zero chance this staff / organization will draft a qb early in this draft. Jobs are on the line, it would be career suicide to spend a top draft pick on developmental qb that they won’t be around to see pan out. Later pick sure, it makes sense, but we won’t see a high pick used on a QB. Coaching staffs with job security can make that high pick on a qb, coaches on the hot seat are more focused on the now. A vet is coming and it’s up to the staff / front office to bag the right guy. If they can’t do it, they’ve failed to do their jobs. Agreed. Honestly the correct move would be to go oline round 1 & 2. But they need to operate as if Rodgers, even if they get him, plays only 1 year. Going into 2024 with zero answers at qb is also not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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