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After all, Vera-Tucker played very solidly at the position in 2022, particularly in his three-week cameo at right tackle. If the Jets were to slot in AVT at right tackle and a rookie on the left side with Becton, Mitchell, and potentially Brown as backups, that would give them a pretty deep tackle class.

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16 minutes ago, varjet said:

I don’t know what JD was thinking with Tomlinson, but AVT should play RG this year (and will likely end up filling in at T again) and next year and going forward, after Tomlinson is finally let go AVT should play LG, a premium position.  

With as poorly as Tomlinson played this year, if he finds himself on the roster next year, I am no longer willing to play AVT out of his natural position to accommodate him.  AVT is the LG, and Tomlinson can either figure it out at RG or get cut

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36 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

I think he’s a future All Pro at Guard.  I’d take that over an average to slightly above average tackle.

Don't think he was slightly above average at all... He proved he can play RT just as well as LG. That said, I agree with @Larz that you wait and see what FA brings, as well as the draft. My other feeling is you ask him what he prefers, and try and put him there. I'd say even if Tomlinson is on this team it's Tomlinson that should be RG and compete with Herbig... 

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10 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

I’d say RT:

• Easier to find guards

• Justifies the big $$$ he’ll get to re-sign

• Becton can’t be depended on yet

• If Becton comes back strong than you have him compete at LT

• Mitchell would be great depth at RT

 

Can keep him at guard and pay him less money when his extension is due? The top guard makes 16.5m per year. Highest paid Offensive tackle makes 23 mill. AVT is a better guard than a tackle. What will the costs be when his extension is due? I don't know but for money purposes, seems like keeping him at guard would get you more bang for the buck.

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4 minutes ago, extmenace said:

Can keep him at guard and pay him less money when his extension is due? The top guard makes 16.5m per year. Highest paid Offensive tackle makes 23 mill. AVT is a better guard than a tackle. What will the costs be when his extension is due? I don't know but for money purposes, seems like keeping him at guard would get you more bang for the buck.

Another team will pay him more $ to play RT and AVT's agents (rightfully so) will shop him as a tackle as he has proven that he can excel at the position.

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I think something that may be overlooked is how well the tackle next to him played. Fant had a great season next to avt. Mitchell played pretty well when he was next to avt. My take is avt is almost like having an extra player on the line, especially from the guard position.  Hopefully the jets can pick another guard/center in the draft and maybe another tackle. No telling if becton will last the whole season.

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12 hours ago, 68JET11 said:

Don't think he was slightly above average at all... He proved he can play RT just as well as LG. That said, I agree with @Larz that you wait and see what FA brings, as well as the draft. My other feeling is you ask him what he prefers, and try and put him there. I'd say even if Tomlinson is on this team it's Tomlinson that should be RG and compete with Herbig... 

Pretty much. 

Nonetheless, I think the Jets seem to be pretty comfortable keeping AVT at Guard, and giving both Becton and Mitchell a legit opportunity to compete for a starting spot at one of the tackle positions- assuming Becton at LT and Mitchell at RT.

Brown is an insurance policy and I imagine barring retirement/injury he played well enough to stay on the team. I also think there is a good chance that the Jets will go after an OT early on in the draft.

I think JD would love it if Becton/Brown-LT, Mitchell/rookie-RT were the starters going into the season. 

As far as G. I think Tomlinson stays at his spot, AVT stays at his spot. And they will do their best to bring back Herbig. 

McGovern will be gone and we will see a new face at Center. This should be looked at as a positive, IMO. There are a number of Center FAs out there who would be an upgrade. McGovern wasn't awful but disappointing for the 10mil cap hit. 

Once again, health will be the major factor here. This could be a very solid o-line if they can stay healthy. But Becton, Brown, AVT, Herbig all dealt with injuries. And that does not include Mitchell who had a separate non-injury health issue (he should now be 100%).  

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5 hours ago, New York Mick said:

I’d rather have an all pro guard then a jag tackle. 

He was not a jag tackle. He was very good and just getting acclimated to his role. My guess is if you had kept him there full time he would only get better as the season wore on. And if you brought him into the season with a full camp to prepare to play RT, he could very well be an All Pro RT. 

Having said that, I don't care. Whatever works best. Put the best unit out there. If it means he has to play Center because we drafted a stud guard and AVT happens to be a damn good Center. Fine.  

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13 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

I think he’s a future All Pro at Guard.  I’d take that over an average to slightly above average tackle.

Keeping him at OG helps with the franchise tag if it's eventually needed.

AVT will have his 5th year option exercised, Zach Wilson very likely will not.  So that FT could keep AVT around for 6 years if I'm thinking about this correctly.

Jets need to find their longterm answer at Left Tackle though.  We thought it was Becton, but barring a miracle it's not.  JD has done a decent job at plugging it with guys like Fant, Morgan Moses, etc. but the Jets really need to check that box so that it isn't a constant concern every March/April.

 

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Eric Allen @eallenjets

Versatile Alijah-Vera Tucker tells reporters:

I'm always team first. Talking to Coach (Keith) Carter, he has a plan for me and the whole O-Line. I'm comfortable at both tackle and guard.

Right now, I'm taking reps at guard.

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6 minutes ago, C Mart said:

Eric Allen @eallenjets

Versatile Alijah-Vera Tucker tells reporters:

I'm always team first. Talking to Coach (Keith) Carter, he has a plan for me and the whole O-Line. I'm comfortable at both tackle and guard.

Right now, I'm taking reps at guard.

He is an elite guard... He filled in nicely at Tackle.... He is a Guard, not a tackle. Guards need to be quicker and agile and the Jets can utilize him more at Guard... Brown and Becton are starting... Period Stop. 

Neither of them can play guard... The first backup is Mitchell, then Turner, Ogbuehi and Warren. AVT only goes to tackle if more then 3 tackles go down with injury

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1 minute ago, jetfan40yrs said:

Eeehhh... coming off a torn tricep, it may not be the best idea (unless he throws with the other arm!) Maybe 3rd string QB!

LOL, awesome. I had to literally look back at what thread this was and what the hell I was even talking about. Now I know how everyone else feels when they read my post. 

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I will say that I think if everyone is healthy he should be our OG. But if one of Brown or Becton goes out. I think it’s shouldn’t be okay a depth OT. I’d rather see CMG go in at OG and AVT to OT if we’re playing our best 5 then. Turner is really CMG competition as next man up for OG and OT.

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