Rhg1084 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Mcgovern- UFA 29 years old who has been Mr Reliable for the Jets. In the 3 years he’s been here he’s only missed 1 games. PFF ranked him the 11th best center this year. I would absolutely bring back Mcgovern on a 4-5 year deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 bring him back on a shorter term deal and draft a C. McG can also play G at a high level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 As noted in the OP, he’s been grading out as roughly the tenth best center in the league - which checks out since he seems like he’s above average but not elite. Don’t expect him to improve significantly at 29, but above average is still good. His current deal’s AAV is…tenth highest in the league. If he’ll sign around there I think it’d be nice to have him back. Much above that, meh. I really wish they’d drafted and developed someone behind him in one of the last two draft but obviously that ship has sailed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: bring him back on a shorter term deal and draft a C. McG can also play G at a high level. Dane Brugler’s top 100 came out recently and his top three guys listed as centers he’s also got listed as guards. All second round range guys. Would be nice to draft a C/G around there to be a long term McGovern replacement, short term guard. Guess it doesn’t work out perfectly roster construction wise as that’d mean Tomlinson cut or AVT to tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I would offer him a 3 year deal, fully guaranteed. The guy has been a rock, and I feel confident for 3 years. I don't have a problem with a 4 year deal, as long as we can release him after year #3 if he slips at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted February 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2023 Take a look at the two centers that started the Super Bowl and get back to me. Thanks. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I think I’d bring him back. 3 years is about right. I think people that have issues with his play aren’t considering the revolving door that was the jet oline. He was the only guy from start to finish and that counts for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, derp said: Dane Brugler’s top 100 came out recently and his top three guys listed as centers he’s also got listed as guards. All second round range guys. Would be nice to draft a C/G around there to be a long term McGovern replacement, short term guard. Guess it doesn’t work out perfectly roster construction wise as that’d mean Tomlinson cut or AVT to tackle. Tomlinson can suck a fat one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 he is weak loink in run support and just look at the missed assignments - who makes the calls ... isn't it the center. Sign him but draft a C , G, OT ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Tomlinson can suck a fat one He is cuttable post June 1 but man I hate how Douglas handled those contracts last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, rangerous said: I think I’d bring him back. 3 years is about right. I think people that have issues with his play aren’t considering the revolving door that was the jet oline. He was the only guy from start to finish and that counts for something. It's not the length of the contract; it's the length of the guaranteed portion of the contract. If there are only 2 years guaranteed (in actual or effective guarantees) then in the end it makes no difference if his contract is 3 years long or 23 years long. So it depends on how much he's seeking, but tbh he's not the only center whose contract is set to expire next month. Due to become FAs, in no particular order: McGovern Kelce (if he doesn't retire) Pocic Brendel Bozeman Bradbury Plus another handful of other '22 starters whom no one here will be happy with, but started on teams that finished with better records than the Jets, and might do as a stopgap heading into the draft. They'd better land someone in April if that's what they do, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Not sure you can cut him unless you have a better Center that can replace him. He hasn't been great but he hasn't been terrible either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Take a look at the two centers that started the Super Bowl and get back to me. Thanks. Exactly. Every great offensive line out there has a far superior center. That position IMO is extraordinarily underrated in its importance. There's so much more to it than "PFF grades". None of that takes into account line calls and assisting the QB in identifying defensive arrangements. The Jets offense has been garbage since Mangold retired. Even when he was around, any time he was off the field, it made a huge difference. I've been looking for them to draft one early for 3-4 years now. It's time. This guy is a JAG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Not sure you can cut him unless you have a better Center that can replace him. He hasn't been great but he hasn't been terrible either. He's not under contract anymore to cut; he's a UFA next month. They have to either reinvest in him (likely with another 2 years guaranteed at somewhere between $10-14MM/year) or go in another direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 He's also the only lineman to play the last 2 years. Everyone else has been injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Exactly. Every great offensive line out there has a far superior center. That position IMO is extraordinarily underrated in its importance. There's so much more to it than "PFF grades". None of that takes into account line calls and assisting the QB in identifying defensive arrangements. The Jets offense has been garbage since Mangold retired. Even when he was around, any time he was off the field, it made a huge difference. I've been looking for them to draft one early for 3-4 years now. It's time. This guy is a JAG. I mean if Becton can make it back, I’m in the minority thinking he can, I’d pull the trigger on the best center we can get this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Just now, chirorob said: He's also the only lineman to play the last 2 years. Everyone else has been injured. Feeney. Nuff said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: He's not under contract anymore to cut; he's a UFA next month. They have to either reinvest in him (likely with another 2 years guaranteed at somewhere between $10-14MM/year) or go in another direction. Same holds true, you need to resign him unless you plan to draft a C day one or 2 or pick one up in FA. I don't see the draft class as being very deep at the position (Schmitz, Tippman, maybe Patterson from ND ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Same holds true, you need to resign him unless you plan to draft a C day one or 2 or pick one up in FA. I don't see the draft class as being very deep at the position (Schmitz, Tippman, maybe Patterson from ND ) . I'll take your word for it as I don't know dick about this (or any) draft class without the benefit of hindsight. But see my list above, in that there are 10+ 2022 starting centers due to become UFAs, and several of them are plenty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Not sure you can cut him unless you have a better Center that can replace him. He hasn't been great but he hasn't been terrible either. If you can retain him, they should. Way too many holes on this team to fill as it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I mean if Becton can make it back, I’m in the minority thinking he can, I’d pull the trigger on the best center we can get this year. Mcgovern might be the best center available. Who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Bring him back but draft his replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Same holds true, you need to resign him unless you plan to draft a C day one or 2 or pick one up in FA. I don't see the draft class as being very deep at the position (Schmitz, Tippman, maybe Patterson from ND ) . Question is how many $$ can the Jets afford to spend . Hopefully the QB situation is ironed out before FA and the draft which will give a better picture of what's left to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Let him go and draft someone. Steve Avila in the 3rd sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Horse hockey. I would rather the Jets draft a new guy than resign this bum. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Average at best, runs his mouth about fans, **** that guy. Move on to a younger, less expensive guy who has potential to get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: It's not the length of the contract; it's the length of the guaranteed portion of the contract. If there are only 2 years guaranteed (in actual or effective guarantees) then in the end it makes no difference if his contract is 3 years long or 23 years long. So it depends on how much he's seeking, but tbh he's not the only center whose contract is set to expire next month. Due to become FAs, in no particular order: McGovern Kelce (if he doesn't retire) Pocic Brendel Bozeman Bradbury Plus another handful of other '22 starters whom no one here will be happy with, but started on teams that finished with better records than the Jets, and might do as a stopgap heading into the draft. They'd better land someone in April if that's what they do, though. Not married on keeping McGovern. It’s just that he’s here now and has played well. Some of those other guys might be better but at what price. And yes it’s all about the guarantee. By three years Jean that’s as long as his contract should be with an out after one so the jets don’t have to carry much dead money. The other point I would make is McGovern was the only constant in a revolving door. He probably plays or looks much better with a stable oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Bring him back on a reasonable contract and draft a center in round 2 or 3. LT: Pick 13 and Brown LG: Laken OC: McGovern and Day 2 Pick RG: AVT and Herbig RT: Becton and Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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