Popular Post football guy Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 He’s one of the most respected NFL sports writers in the business, so I wouldn’t take this report with a grain of salt https://www.golongtd.com/p/mcginn-why-the-packers-will-move?sd=pf 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 So now wait for him to get cut! 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 YESSSSSSSSSSS 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 If the Raiders sign him, may last place serve you well. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 So what is the date that Rogers emerges from his darkness retreat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said: So what is the date that Rogers emerges from his darkness retreat? Groundhog said six weeks 1 1 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-met57 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 he'll be a jet soon enough, said it from day 1. there just isnt another AFC team paying him the stupid money he is owed... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post football guy Posted February 17, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 I really don't get the sense that the Raiders will be as high on the list as people think if he does get moved. If he comes out of this and decides he wants to be traded, he's going to want to speak with teams and GB would grant it... not the same situation as LV where they're against the clock for contractual reasons. Rodgers would probably want to understand the team's offseason plans, deeper understanding of how the offense would be run, and what level of input he would have in personnel and game plan. McDaniels is notoriously stubborn and is "System > Player"... he runs an entirely different scheme than Rodgers is accustomed to which would be an undersold adjustment. They're also more stubborn in personnel, and I don't see them as a team that would acquire players just because Rodgers wants them. The division is loaded and their defense is trash. All they really have to pitch is Vegas/no state income tax and Adams. Tennessee is a bigger threat. They also can offer no state income tax. Rodgers closest teammate is David Bakhtiari, who many expect the Packers to move prior to his March 20th roster bonus whether that's by releasing him or trading him. Bak lives in Tennessee and they have a need. They also have space at WR and TE to add some of Aaron's "guys" if he so desires, and Aaron has a relationship with Vrabel. Jets can go toe-to-toe with either of them because they offer by far the best situation in terms of talent, and our new staff is full of guys without any egos- basically Rodgers' peers- and would give him a lot of power if that's what he desires... they can't sign every WR he wants but I'm sure they would add Cobb if that's what he wanted; I could see them adding Lazard if Rodgers preferred him over Davis, and I can naturally see them adding Bakhtiari if available. He has plenty of friends who live here and his rumored girlfriend lives here, so don't think that much would be an issue. The major negatives against us are market (if he's not into it) and tax. Whatever happens will occur over the next 2-3 weeks so should be fascinating to follow it all if McGinn is correct. 16 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Groundhog said six weeks Lol you’ve been in peak form lately. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 The jets will be bidding against themselves, i can see it . The Raiders are no threat at all imo. The Jets are a far better option for Rodgers. What will be fun to see is if Rodgers comes out of the hole and says he wants to stay in Green Bay. I doubt that would happen though as then it would appear that Rodgers is not controlling the narrative so if the Packers say we are moving you he can go to a team and say he chose them.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Wonder if there’s a scenario where they play a little chicken regarding where he gets traded. If they’re ready to move on and he’s iffy enough about continuing to play maybe he says I’ll retire if you don’t trade me to *desired destination(s)*. If the list gets narrows enough maybe it knocks down the capital required to acquire him. Certainly doesn’t benefit him any to have his new team give up a bunch of picks - not unlike Carr. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 It won't shock me at all if the Dolphins get him. They obviously need a QB as badly as we do. They can't go into next season with Tua as their starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I saw something earlier that the odds on Rodgers being a Jets suddenly shortened massively today. I think we were third behind the Raiders and Packers, but suddenly we have the shortest odds...by a lot. Interesting, especially in tandem with this latest revelation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 I really think the Jets already have a trade worked out for Rodgers, the minute he announces he's going to play he'll be moved 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets will be bidding against themselves, i can see it . The Raiders are no threat at all imo. The Jets are a far better option for Rodgers. What will be fun to see is if Rodgers comes out of the hole and says he wants to stay in Green Bay. I doubt that would happen though as then it would appear that Rodgers is not controlling the narrative so if the Packers say we are moving you he can go to a team and say he chose them.. The keeps getting said about JD yet he keeps proving doubters wrong... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Funny how after the news broke that Carr is visiting the Jets, this Rodgers news comes out. Jets are in a win/win situation. Rodgers might come out of the darkness quickly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 If Rodgers plays for another team this season, it’s the Jets. Lock it in. It is written 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 This is all a show. Rodgers is already a Jet. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I'm think I'm done with all the anxiety... This weekend, don't let Carr leave the building... Starter for the foreseeable future... Costs no draft picks... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, football guy said: I really don't get the sense that the Raiders will be as high on the list as people think if he does get moved. If he comes out of this and decides he wants to be traded, he's going to want to speak with teams and GB would grant it... not the same situation as LV where they're against the clock for contractual reasons. Rodgers would probably want to understand the team's offseason plans, deeper understanding of how the offense would be run, and what level of input he would have in personnel and game plan. McDaniels is notoriously stubborn and is "System > Player"... he runs an entirely different system than Rodgers is accustomed to. They're also more stubborn in personnel, and I don't see them as a team that would acquire players just because Rodgers wants them. All they really have to pitch is Vegas/no state income tax and Adams. Tennessee is a bigger threat. They also can offer no state income tax. Rodgers closest teammate is David Bakhtiari, who many expect the Packers to move prior to his March 20th roster bonus whether that's by releasing him or trading him. Bak lives in Tennessee and they have a need. They also have space at WR and TE to add some of Aaron's "guys" if he so desires, and Aaron has a relationship with Vrabel. Agreed, after reading the SI article on the nuances of the divorce between Carr and the Raiders, it strikes me that Rodgers would not suffer McDaniels hyper-critical unrelenting coaching style - humbling truth bombs for players and coaches during film sessions. You have to be hungry as hell to win, to take criticism well to excel as a QB in the McDaniels/Belichick misery-in-pursuit-of-excellence system. Mike Vrabel is a great coach with a proven track record, he has a sense of humor. I could see the appeal for Rodgers there. Roster talent is likely important to Rodgers but with his ever present misanthropic aura, Aaron Rodgers needs to be adored and handled with deference. Vrabel might be able to carry that off. Where Carr fits, I'm not sure. He seems to need encouragement more than constructive criticism, plus 40 million a year. Clearly he's far more talented than what we've had but I'm not sure if he has the hunger for the game to make the constant sacrifices needed to get to the super bowl. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, jetswinbaby! said: I'm think I'm done with all the anxiety... This weekend, don't let Carr leave the building... Starter for the foreseeable future... Costs no draft picks... The Carr visit might be about keeping the Packers' trade comp expectations manageable, as much as anything. If they think we have a legit alternative in Carr, they should be less likely to hold our feet over the fire in trade talks. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, jetswinbaby! said: I'm think I'm done with all the anxiety... This weekend, don't let Carr leave the building... Starter for the foreseeable future... Costs no draft picks... I think I'm done with all the anxiety... This weekend, interview Carr for due dilligence... Offer the moon for Rodgers as soon as he emerges... Get him signed, and go for it all for 2 seasons... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, Biggs said: It won't shock me at all if the Dolphins get him. They obviously need a QB as badly as we do. They can't go into next season with Tua as their starter. Absolutely nobody needs a QB more than we do. Tua is cleared from protocol and despite the obvious risks, at his worst he’s a better option then what’s on our roster now (Zach). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Biggs said: It won't shock me at all if the Dolphins get him. They obviously need a QB as badly as we do. They can't go into next season with Tua as their starter. I think he would be a perfect fit with the atypical Mike McDaniel, but where does he fit on their cap situation. Some serious gymnastics involved there, some cuts and some undrafted free agents making the roster needed to squeeze Rodgers onto the sand at South Beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 If Rodgers is in the drivers seats Im hoping the compensation wont be too bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I really think the Jets already have a trade worked out for Rodgers, the minute he announces he's going to play he'll be moved This is what I think 100% I think the Jets just want to hear from Rogers that it is a go! Indeed, I was getting crazy calls from my "friend" and Jets ticket guy and he said I passed the time to get certain tickets but that they held them for me just in case. And when we finally spoke he was real relaxed and essentially said: "Hmmmmmmm nothing will happen yet, we can get your deposit next week, no RUSH!!!!" That rang out in my mind like a Huge Bell, folks who sell tickets want to create a sense of urgency, especially when you are selling tickets past when you should buy them, but he said no rush..... Soooooo......with this info ........I say Rogers..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wit Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, FTL Jet Fan said: So what is the date that Rogers emerges from his darkness retreat? This whole retreat is overblown. His agents are smoking the phones, an this visit by Carr this weekend is no accident. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wit Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I really think the Jets already have a trade worked out for Rodgers, the minute he announces he's going to play he'll be moved This is the opposite of a SOJ take and I cant handle it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, mrcoops said: The Carr visit might be about keeping the Packers' trade comp expectations manageable, as much as anything. If they think we have a legit alternative in Carr, they should be less likely to hold our feet over the fire in trade talks. You act like we’re the ones in the driver seat here. We’re not. GB has options, we’re the ones hot for the commodity they have. They can get “picks” from any team that wants AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post playtowinthegame Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 Rodgers leaving the darkness finding out he's been traded to the Jets. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 “And it’s not just one person. McGinn said the entire power structure is done with Rodgers: CEO Mark Murphy, G.M. Brian Gutekunst, and coach Matt LaFleur. They think he’s not working hard anymore. They think he showed up for 2022 not in the best possible shape, and that he blew off the offseason program.” Yeah, lets trade for a 39 year old w/ not much desire to play anymore. Like carr, there is 0 chance Joe D wants aaron rodgers play for the jets. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: “And it’s not just one person. McGinn said the entire power structure is done with Rodgers: CEO Mark Murphy, G.M. Brian Gutekunst, and coach Matt LaFleur. They think he’s not working hard anymore. They think he showed up for 2022 not in the best possible shape, and that he blew off the offseason program.” Yeah, lets trade for a 39 year old w/ not much desire to play anymore. Like carr, there is 0 chance Joe D wants aaron rodgers play for the jets. It buys us another year for someone else to shake loose at the very least. At the same time the team grows and gains some playoff experience. Short of an injury I don't see the downside other than a draft pick lotto ticket. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Anybody have access to the audio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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