Popular Post Bronx Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 Good luck buddy and thank you for your service. 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pointman Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 Nice. I hope someone gives it to him. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 years 16. 10 guaranteed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Doesn't seem like an outrageous amount for him. He will get it somewhere, either from the Jets or another team looking to juice up its interior d-line play. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 This is where the snap counts and DL rotation get tricky. Rankins is a great player and I'd love to hold on to him but are you paying him that contract to play 50% of the snaps? idk I think you could probably find his replacement via the draft and you have JJ and Clemons emerging as well. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, mrcoops said: Doesn't seem like an outrageous amount for him. He will get it somewhere, either from the Jets or another team looking to juice up its interior d-line play. Except that we need a QB in addition to QW extension and OL help. Thank you Zach Azzannus Wilson, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Solid contributor to dline group, fair price. Expect Jets to resign him. Be a self-inflicted wound if they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jethead said: Solid contributor to dline group, fair price. Expect Jets to resign him. Be a self-inflicted wound if they don't. Can they afford him after paying Carr (big "if")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bronx said: Except that we need a QB in addition to QW extension and OL help. Thank you Zach Azzannus Wilson, thank you. Yep, that’s what you get when your GM drafts a kid who should have been a UDFA at number two overall. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted February 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, JiF4Lamar said: This is where the snap counts and DL rotation get tricky. Rankins is a great player and I'd love to hold on to him but are you paying him that contract to play 50% of the snaps? idk I think you could probably find his replacement via the draft and you have JJ and Clemons emerging as well. Great is a stretch 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Jets need to resign Rankins! He fit our rotation perfectly and is the perfect compliment next to big Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 He’s been pretty mediocre. I think you can draft a body to play his role. When you see stats like “Jets have most expensive defense in the league” and you’re like “how” you need to realize other teams aren’t paying 8 figures a year to rotational DTs who don’t rush the passer. Pay Quinnen and guys who make a real impact on the DL — and then draft lots of bodies for this rotation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Jethead said: Solid contributor to dline group, fair price. Expect Jets to resign him. Be a self-inflicted wound if they don't. +1 I’d make a run at keeping him. He really helped solidify the run defense last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Great is a stretch Does "very good" make you feel better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: He’s been pretty mediocre. I think you can draft a body to play his role. When you see stats like “Jets have most expensive defense in the league” and you’re like “how” you need to realize other teams aren’t paying 8 figures a year to rotational DTs who don’t rush the passer. Pay Quinnen and guys who make a real impact on the DL — and then draft lots of bodies for this rotation. JD tried to draft Jonathan Marshall to replace him. extended Quinnen and backending his cap could be a way of keeping Rankins for 2 years until he is replaced. I would only do that if we get a QB that could compete for a playoff spot. Otherwise let him go and rebuild 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 The timing isn't great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Like Rankins, would gladly let him test the market though. As others have said, too much money for 50% of snaps. Are we really thinking with 100% playing time this guy is a $20m defender? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, JiF4Lamar said: This is where the snap counts and DL rotation get tricky. Rankins is a great player and I'd love to hold on to him but are you paying him that contract to play 50% of the snaps? idk I think you could probably find his replacement via the draft and you have JJ and Clemons emerging as well. No chance you pay him that. We just don't have the space to put that type of asset allocation to an interior DL when we also have Quinnen coming up next year. What they should be doing is Shifting John Franklin Myers inside, and playing a defensive end rotation of lawson, Huff, jj, and Clemons. That is both the best group of players and the best bang for your buck. Sheldon deserves the contract that he's going to get, and I'll be happy for him. I will also be happy for us starting to get into that comp pick game 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Overcame a tough injury. Played very well in a contract year. I doubt he gets the numbers he's seeking. I don't think we can afford him anywhere close to those numbers, especially if we get a vet QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I guess it all depends on where the IDL market is going. I don’t see him as the 16th best IDL (the best IDL on half the teams in the NFL) but if the position is about to get way more expensive I can see him getting it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, JiF4Lamar said: This is where the snap counts and DL rotation get tricky. Rankins is a great player and I'd love to hold on to him but are you paying him that contract to play 50% of the snaps? idk I think you could probably find his replacement via the draft and you have JJ and Clemons emerging as well. The Jets employ a system where all the DL rotate. The most I think you might see on the DL is about 60 % of the snaps. 8-10 million is middle of the road and probably takes that into account. The DL played very well last season and I see no reason to break that up. 16 mil for 2 years is a good deal for Rankins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Like Rankins, would gladly let him test the market though. As others have said, too much money for 50% of snaps. Are we really thinking with 100% playing time this guy is a $20m defender? once again no player on that line will go above 60 % of the snaps maybe Williams might sniff 65 but that's about it. Not sure where people get this stuff from All Rankins will be expected to do this season like every other lineman on the Jets will be 50 to 60% of the snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: once again no player on that line will go above 60 % of the snaps maybe Williams might sniff 65 but that's about it. Not sure where people get this stuff from All Rankins will be expected to do this season like every other lineman on the Jets will be 50 to 60% of the snaps. Yea, that was more off the cuff. Not all DLs rotate with such a frequency on other teams. We saw how late into the season the guys stayed fresh so it does work. I don't necessarily think that's an overpay for his talent, I just think it's an overpay for 56% of snaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, bla bla bla said: Yea, that was more off the cuff. Not all DLs rotate with such a frequency on other teams. We saw how late into the season the guys stayed fresh so it does work. I don't necessarily think that's an overpay for his talent, I just think it's an overpay for 56% of snaps I don't think its an over pay at all we are paying for a system that actually works also most GM's have to adjust salaries based on future cap raises. Its not just the QB's salaries that go up every year. You can make the argument that pass rushers and WR's salaries have gone up in a bigger percentage than QB's. Either way Rankins and Williams are a hand full in the Middle why mess with that ? Some here have made statements like "oh its just a DT" well you see what a dominant DT can do to the pocket with Williams and Rankins ..you take those 2 away and you allow QB's to step up in the pocket and have the DE's pushed to the outside there is a reason why QB's had such bad numbers vs the Jets and this IMHO was the biggest. This is the heart of the Jets defense along with our corners and this is where you pay the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I think The Jets will move on from Rankins and fill his role... A. in the back end of the draft or even through an UDFA. or B. A considerably cheaper FA vet. The fact that one of the first moves the Jets made was to sign DT-Isaiah Mack shoudl tell you something. Yes, he might just be signed to compete for depth or for PS. But I have a feeling JD will look to cheaper options to fill out that D-line rotations to complement QW, JFM, Huff (who I believe will be resigned), JJ and Clemons. *This is also assuming Lawson gets cut, which I believe will happen as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PepPep said: I think The Jets will move on from Rankins and fill his role... A. in the back end of the draft or even through an UDFA. or B. A considerably cheaper FA vet. The fact that one of the first moves the Jets made was to sign DT-Isaiah Mack shoudl tell you something. Yes, he might just be signed to compete for depth or for PS. But I have a feeling JD will look to cheaper options to fill out that D-line rotations to complement QW, JFM, Huff (who I believe will be resigned), JJ and Clemons. *This is also assuming Lawson gets cut, which I believe will happen as well. This is a realistic plan, thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 The Jets should not have let Jonathan Marshall get claimed by the stealers last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: I don't think its an over pay at all we are paying for a system that actually works also most GM's have to adjust salaries based on future cap raises. Its not just the QB's salaries that go up every year. You can make the argument that pass rushers and WR's salaries have gone up in a bigger percentage than QB's. Either way Rankins and Williams are a hand full in the Middle why mess with that ? Some here have made statements like "oh its just a DT" well you see what a dominant DT can do to the pocket with Williams and Rankins ..you take those 2 away and you allow QB's to step up in the pocket and have the DE's pushed to the outside there is a reason why QB's had such bad numbers vs the Jets and this IMHO was the biggest. This is the heart of the Jets defense along with our corners and this is where you pay the money. Yea no doubt, prices go up for all players. Upon further review, this isn't necessarily a crazy number.Rankins played 56% last 2 years, Foley Fatukasi plays less than 50%, DJ Jones plays 55%, and BJ Hill 79% of snaps and all are at $10m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, PepPep said: I think The Jets will move on from Rankins and fill his role... A. in the back end of the draft or even through an UDFA. or B. A considerably cheaper FA vet. The fact that one of the first moves the Jets made was to sign DT-Isaiah Mack shoudl tell you something. Yes, he might just be signed to compete for depth or for PS. But I have a feeling JD will look to cheaper options to fill out that D-line rotations to complement QW, JFM, Huff (who I believe will be resigned), JJ and Clemons. *This is also assuming Lawson gets cut, which I believe will happen as well. They absolutely should tender Huff. Crazy not to. I think they are much higher than Rankins than the board and I am not sure about moving JFM to full time DT. There are a ton of snaps to fill if they dump Rankins and Lawson. At end Lawson played 663. They already dumped Martin who had played 153 and Curry (185) is a FA. At tackle, Rankins (558), Shepherd (417) and Solomon Thomas (375) are FA. Under contract, they have Johnson, Clemons, Bradley Anae, and presumably Huff at end. At DT they have Quinnen looking for a pay day, with Tanzel Smart, Mack, and Marquiss Spencer. Then there is JFM as a tweener. I think they will have to have some of their FA back, and have to think about moving on from Lawson. Maybe re-do Lawon's deal. I think they play comp pick long game with these guys, let them all test the waters and take back the cheap ones. A guy like Rankins is the tough call because he is worth more than the rest, but you have to have a number and stick to it because he is good, but not a cornerstone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Like Rankins, would gladly let him test the market though. As others have said, too much money for 50% of snaps. Are we really thinking with 100% playing time this guy is a $20m defender? Rankins was a lot better in ‘22 than he was in ‘21, I’m hoping Tomlinson has a similar trajectory. Jet fans talk endlessly about the need for OL but DT is a pending massive hole on the team right now, especially a team whose identity is defense. I would, however, also let him test the market. That ask is a little high; probably too high if they decide to do the right thing and extend Quinnen now. I’d like to sign him for less. If that’s not possible, so be it. I would be looking at the position in this year’s draft, and would even consider using their first round pick on one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 With our defensive rotation, best to get average players or older players who still rush the passer at a high level at bargain prices. Find another Sheldon Rankins. Possibly Ogunjobi. Oniemata would be a possibility but he likely gets paid similar to if not more than Rankins. Would like for us to also try and get Justin Houston and cut Lawson. Hoping we can attract veterans with the idea that we can extend their careers with our defensive rotation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Bronx said: Good luck buddy and thank you for your service. He made 5.5 million the last two years. If he wants 8 million per year that is reasonable. Not sure he will get it from the Jets, but he is worth it. You just can't pay 4 lineman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Doggin94it said: Sheldon deserves the contract that he's going to get, and I'll be happy for him. I will also be happy for us starting to get into that comp pick game Probably a late 6th… maybe a late 5th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, JiF4Lamar said: This is where the snap counts and DL rotation get tricky. Rankins is a great player and I'd love to hold on to him but are you paying him that contract to play 50% of the snaps? idk I think you could probably find his replacement via the draft and you have JJ and Clemons emerging as well. Aaron does not approve of this plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, JiF4Lamar said: Does "very good" make you feel better? Still a bit strong 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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