Jimmy G looking for big money

[Rhg1084]

if we lose out on Carr and Rodgers he’s the next best thing 

[JohnnyLV]

None of these guys are worth the cost. We need to develop a drafted QB and build the team around a cap friendly QB until we have that guy. If Brock Purdy showed anything it was that Jimmy Gs numbers are a function of the talent and coaching around him

[Barry McCockinner]

3 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

if we lose out on Carr and Rodgers he’s the next best thing 

I wouldn't consider this guy even at bargain prices. Never stays healthy and I have zero interest in watching Zach Wilson do laps in the backfield in 2023.

[Rhg1084]

Just now, johnnysd said:

None of these guys are worth the cost. We need to develop a drafted QB and build the team around a cap friendly QB until we have that guy. If Brock Purdy showed anything it was that Jimmy Gs numbers are a function of the talent and coaching around him

So what’s the solution if “none of these guys are worth the cost”? Run it back with Zach?

[mrcoops]

[k-met57]

it pains me to say this but if its nothing/draft/white/wilson vs Jimmy G on big money or long years deal....ill take nothing.

[LockeJET]

Is this really surprising to anyone? The quarterback market is absolutely insane even for guys like Jimmy G, Tannehill, etc.. this is what hurts about Zach, we could’ve loaded our team up even more had he been any semblance of a QB. 

[choon328]

Half of the league needs a starting QB. Jimmy G, Carr and the rest will get inflated deals bc of that. But they will be shorter term than what they want. 

[The Crusher]

Makes sense when injuries leave you available fir only 56% of the snaps in the season. That would suggest he’s Not Fir Long in this league. Needs to maximize his earnings, smart move. 

[PepPep]

7 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

None of these guys are worth the cost. We need to develop a drafted QB and build the team around a cap friendly QB until we have that guy. If Brock Purdy showed anything it was that Jimmy Gs numbers are a function of the talent and coaching around him

[Maxman]

I would give Jimmy G 40 million a year for any year he started 16 games and the team made the postseason.

Sliding scale down from there.

[DoubleDown]

Makes sense.

• 40-17 career record as a starter
• 67% completion percentage
• 2:1 TD to INT ratio
• Been to the big game
• As steady and consistent as they get when healthy

My feeling is that he is seen around the league in a much better light than the general sentiment on this board would suggest.  He's a proven winner when having quality pieces around him.

If the Jets miss out on Carr, I believe Jimmy G is their next target.  Connection to Saleh, competent vet quarterback who has been to the biggest stage, provides leadership on a team with a number of young offensive players, and creates an opportunity for Zach (who the team has not given up on yet despite fan wishes) if/when he goes down due to injury.

[Trotter]

3 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

Is this really surprising to anyone? The quarterback market is absolutely insane even for guys like Jimmy G, Tannehill, etc.. this is what hurts about Zach, we could’ve loaded our team up even more had he been any semblance of a QB. 

so true - and while I know the odds are so stacked against this maybe just maybe the silver lining if these top qb options fail is to get a mid level guy and have them compete with Wilson.

We really do not know just how bad it was with him and Lafleur and while Zach spent about 80% of the season being absolutely terrible, there were a few signs that he could be an NFL QB.

I realize the above is mostly a dream but hopefully the footaball Gods shine on us and Wilson is capable of beating out a mid level guy during camp and allowing the Jets to build the rest of the roster.

Dreams I know but there is always a chance  

[Joe W. Namath]

Doesnt matter what Jimmy G wants, hes going to get only what a team wants to pay him.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Doesnt matter what Jimmy G wants, hes going to get only what a team wants to pay him.

profound

[Rhg1084]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Doesnt matter what Jimmy G wants, hes going to get only what a team wants to pay him.

There’s a lot of teams that need QBs tho. I’m sure he’ll get a huge deal from someone 

[Kolchak]

He'll look awesome on the IR next to BigTicket73. Make this happen!

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I like Jimmy Gs talent over Tannehill but I'd take Tannehill at $20m over Jimmy G at +$30m

[Rhg1084]

3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I like Jimmy Gs talent over Tannehill but I'd take Tannehill at $20m over Jimmy G at +$30m

Tannehill is under contract for $37m in 2023

[Trotter]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

There’s a lot of teams that need QBs tho. I’m sure he’ll get a huge deal from someone 

I would guess he falls into that 40 number similiar to Daniel Jones if the giants sign him. 

It is what it is and that seems to be the market value of these guys - Carr is prob a tick higher.

[Lith]

2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I like Jimmy Gs talent over Tannehill but I'd take Tannehill at $20m over Jimmy G at +$30m

Yup.  But with some of Tennessee'r recent moves to free up cap space. I am not sure they are letting Tannehill go.

[nycdan]

6 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Makes sense.

• 40-17 career record as a starter
• 67% completion percentage
• 2:1 TD to INT ratio
• Been to the big game
• As steady and consistent as they get when healthy

My feeling is that he is seen around the league in a much better light than the general sentiment on this board would suggest.  He's a proven winner when having quality pieces around him.

If the Jets miss out on Carr, I believe Jimmy G is their next target.  Connection to Saleh, competent vet quarterback who has been to the biggest stage, provides leadership on a team with a number of young offensive players, and creates an opportunity for Zach (who the team has not given up on yet despite fan wishes) if/when he goes down due to injury.

The one counterpoint to this, whatever you may think of it is:

Brock Purdy

• 5-0 career record as a starter in regular season (really 6-0 since he played most of that first game)
• 67% completion percentage
• 3:1 TD to INT ratio
• 2-1 postseason record

It makes what Jimmy G did with SFO look like he managed a great team.  I don't really have a clue how he'll look anywhere else but it won't be better.  And the injuries....I just can't.

 

[Ron Rico]

Thank you, Cleveland Browns general manager Andrew Berry

 

[DoubleDown]

10 minutes ago, nycdan said:

The one counterpoint to this, whatever you may think of it is:

Brock Purdy

• 5-0 career record as a starter in regular season (really 6-0 since he played most of that first game)
• 67% completion percentage
• 3:1 TD to INT ratio
• 2-1 postseason record

It makes what Jimmy G did with SFO look like he managed a great team.  I don't really have a clue how he'll look anywhere else but it won't be better.  And the injuries....I just can't.

 

Fair enough, but Brock's sample size is awfully small.  Jimmy G has been doing it for years.

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20 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Tannehill is under contract for $37m in 2023

Which is why he's likely to be released

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19 minutes ago, Lith said:

Yup.  But with some of Tennessee'r recent moves to free up cap space. I am not sure they are letting Tannehill go.

I think they only keep him if he agrees to restructure. His cap hit is far too high.

[bitonti]

35 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

None of these guys are worth the cost. We need to develop a drafted QB and build the team around a cap friendly QB until we have that guy. If Brock Purdy showed anything it was that Jimmy Gs numbers are a function of the talent and coaching around him

 

13 minutes ago, nycdan said:

The one counterpoint to this, whatever you may think of it is:

Brock Purdy

Putting aside these large, agent driven numbers, Isn't it possible that both Jimmy G and Brock Purdy have value as QB's in the NFL?

Not just because the SF team is loaded but because they do a good job scouting QB talent? Because they aren't scared to draft QB in rd 7 even though there's a rd 1 QB on the roster? They aren't scared of competition and build a QB room based on skill. The Jets built a QB room based on coronating Zach Wilson. 

Brock Purdy by the way is undergoing complete UCL reconstruction aka Tommy John surgery. That guy's not throwing for the next 6-9 months. 

they also are both injury prone if we are being technical about it. 

There's a chance Jimmy G plays all 17 games next year and makes the playoffs. What's that worth? He knows the SF/Shanny/Hackett system what's that worth?  

I agree with @Maxman if they give Jimmy G an incentive laden deal that protects them against injury that would be ideal. Unlike Carr he's proven in cold weather too, winning that blizzard playoff game in GB (and previous experience playing/practicing at Eastern Illinois, NEP) 

whether the Jets get Jimmy G at 40 or 30 or 20 mil per won't make or break the roster like Aaron Rodgers 70 and 80 mil caps hit in 2025/26 

also there's the side bet of Zach Wilson, if he's the 10 mil backup the team wouldn't necessarily mind watching him play again if Jimmy G gets hurt. 

 

[Rhg1084]

11 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Which is why he's likely to be released

$18m in dead cap and we have to wait until June 1st to hope he’s released? Then what do we do if he’s not or signs somewhere else?

[Warfish]

54 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

if we lose out on Carr and Rodgers he’s the next best thing 

No, he isn't.

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6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Brock Purdy by the way is undergoing complete UCL reconstruction aka Tommy John surgery. That guy's not throwing for the next 6-9 months. 

Report is he'll be ready for the start of 2023 season, not a full Tommy John surgery.

7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

whether the Jets get Jimmy G at 40 or 30 or 20 mil per won't make or break the roster like Aaron Rodgers 70 and 80 mil caps hit in 2025/26 

Rodgers cap hits in 25 and 26 are going to either be $60m in 2025 and nothing in 2026 or it will be $30m and $30m over those 2 years

[Rhg1084]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

No, he isn't.

Who is ?

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4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

$18m in dead cap and we have to wait until June 1st to hope he’s released? Then what do we do if he’s not or signs somewhere else?

You can designate him a June 1st cut. (Saves $27m) If he's not cut before FA starts you likely aren't going to target him at all.

[BigRy56]

If Jimmy G could stay healthy, I’d have no problem with it. The guy has done nothing but win his entire career

[BCJet]

Do people expect a QBs agent to leak a report that they dont want a big contract?  Can you imagine a report from Schefter that "Jimmy has enough money and really isnt concerned about the size of his next contract?"  

These reports are all to drive up their clients costs - thats it.

[Jetsplayer21]

55 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I wouldn't consider this guy even at bargain prices. Never stays healthy and I have zero interest in watching Zach Wilson do laps in the backfield in 2023.

Agree, Zach can’t be the number 2 despite whoever we sign for #1