Outside of QB, what do you "The Best Arm Chair GM" need to fix first?

[hawk]

We all want to know who the Starting QB will be in 2023 and we all have our opinions.  Other than that, where do the Jets need to put the highest priority?

You could argue Offensive Line, but how would you fix it?

You could say a replacement for Lawson or Mosley.

For me, I think safety position is the weak link in the Defense.  I for one would look to target Jessie Bates, or CJ Gardner-Johnson in Free Agency AND draft a kid in the 3rd or 4th round.  Ship Whitehead out.

What you got?

[RedBeardedSavage]

We have no reliable starting offensive tackles

[ultraJETfan]

LT, DE, TE

[THE BARON]

32 minutes ago, hawk said:

We all want to know who the Starting QB will be in 2023 and we all have our opinions.  Other than that, where do the Jets need to put the highest priority?

You could argue Offensive Line, but how would you fix it?

You could say a replacement for Lawson or Mosley.

For me, I think safety position is the weak link in the Defense.  I for one would look to target Jessie Bates, or CJ Gardner-Johnson in Free Agency AND draft a kid in the 3rd or 4th round.  Ship Whitehead out.

What you got?

OT

[SickJetFan]

Like me the Jets are perfect and wouldn't change a thing

[SR24]

Re-sign McGovern, Quincy,

Cut- Corey, Berrios, Duane Brown, Bryce Hall, Whitehead (Frees up $30 million)

Extend- Quinnen and Lawson 

Sign- Carr, Kaleb McGary, Jimmie Ward

Draft- LT, WR and S 

 

 

[Beerfish]

Oline by a lot.   I could see us spending for a S in Fa.

[Jets0712]

GET VONN ?️. NEED A TE STOPPER


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[derp]

Big picture the offensive line and middle of the defense need to improve, but one guy isn’t going to fix either of those things.

Two spots an individual player could impact significantly would be a guy who scares defenses with the ball in his hands and a pass rusher. Both areas one on one skills matter a lot.

Offense tanked when it went from two scary skill players to one last year, can’t have too many of those guys especially when you’re looking for an answer at QB. And pass rush to me, one guy who can consistently win matchups and create pressure would make an impact.

[peebag]

Do we have any LBs on this team?

[football guy]

Build the wall. 

Doesn’t necessarily require all 1st round picks to accomplish this, but heavy draft capital investment is necessary. The Eagles wholly home built OL consisted of 2 former 1st rounders (1 starter), 2 former 2nd rounders (1 starter), former 3rd rounder (starter), former 4th rounder, former 6th rounder (starter), and a former 7th rounder (starter). It was the best OL I think I’ve ever watched this past season. They have a next man up mentality where guys are drafted, developed, and evolved into starters year-after-year when which has allowed them to maintain strong OL play for the better part of the last 10 seasons. When one “big name” FA leaves, another former Day 2-3 draft pick steps in and thrives. 

We’ve been doing it all wrong: signing/trading for “big name veterans” already on their back 9, getting complacent with the lineup on paper thus neglecting drafting depth in favor of cheap veterans, watch guys break down and have no solution to the problem. Need to invest in youth and feel comfortable with 7-8 guys being thrust into a starting role with the last 2-3 guys developmental talents.

[Hex]

OL always needs more depth on this team it seems. The more the merrier. I think better TEs would also be useful, but Ruckert is really promising. LBs and Ss are needs at defense. Need a solid #2 WR.

Now I don't think all of this will get solved this offseason due to cap crap, so I think the main priorities are the trenches on both sides.

[Maxman]

Offensive Line.

Safety.

[Arsis]

New ownership

[Maynard13]

Stop at the bottom and work your way up. Get better socks. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Fire the used car salesman they hired as HC

Trash the horrid uniforms

[rangerous]

I think one thing should be pointed out is that helping the offense may help the defense a lot more that re- signing stud defensive players.  Lawson had a good season and normally could be retained but the jets needs the resources to improve the oline so he should be cut. In the draft I think I would be looking for a guard or center, safety, and linebacker. And I would also draft a qb.

[heymangold]

OL/WR

[GreenFish]

Aside from QB, it’s OL.

I would resign McGovern to a 2yr $8M/year deal.
I think Daune Brown will retire.

Then I would draft

1st: OT Broderick Jones

2nd: iOL John Michael Schmidt (provide depth year 1 and start year 2)

1 of the Day 3 picks for a developmental OT.

 

LT: Jones, Day 3 OT

LG: Tomlinson

C : McGovern, JMS

RG: AVT, Herbig

RT: Becton, Mitchell

[Stark]

8 hours ago, football guy said:

Build the wall. 

Doesn’t necessarily require all 1st round picks to accomplish this, but heavy draft capital investment is necessary. The Eagles wholly home built OL consisted of 2 former 1st rounders (1 starter), 2 former 2nd rounders (1 starter), former 3rd rounder (starter), former 4th rounder, former 6th rounder (starter), and a former 7th rounder (starter). It was the best OL I think I’ve ever watched this past season. They have a next man up mentality where guys are drafted, developed, and evolved into starters year-after-year when which has allowed them to maintain strong OL play for the better part of the last 10 seasons. When one “big name” FA leaves, another former Day 2-3 draft pick steps in and thrives. 

We’ve been doing it all wrong: signing/trading for “big name veterans” already on their back 9, getting complacent with the lineup on paper thus neglecting drafting depth in favor of cheap veterans, watch guys break down and have no solution to the problem. Need to invest in youth and feel comfortable with 7-8 guys being thrust into a starting role with the last 2-3 guys developmental talents.

Pretty similar to the makeup of our line. Probablem is both out 1st rounders hurt and Max hurt. Sure they signed Tomlinson but outside of that it seems Health was the issue. If JD drafts line in 2nd, 3rd or 4th rd you basically have same pics 
 

think JD gets it solidified. 

[Sperm Edwards]

New MLB. And GM, probably.

[FidelioJet]

11 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

We have no reliable starting offensive tackles

We have no reliable anything on the OL. 

We have one G that had a season ending injury and one that was downright awful.

T's we have zero...

We don't even have a C under contract.

The OL is a mess and in need of a full overhaul.

[NYDreamer]

I'm excited for a healthy offensive line to actually play together.  But I am drafting O Line first and second.

Broderick Jones (Compared to D'Brick) and John Michael Schmitdtz can be our (Mangold/Mawae).

We must re sign Quinen Williams to a contract extension.  I would do it ASAP.  He is home grown, he has fit this system perfectly, He's 25, he is only getting better and everyone on the team is watching what happens with this contract as he deserves it.

Bryce Huff is another guy I'm making a priority signing.

I love what Mosley did this season for the Jets, he took on the leadership role well.  But does keeping one mean you are willing to let Quincy Williams and Kwon Alexander walk.  To this I would look draft Jack Campbell, Sewell, or Pace in the third round.

Wr's Boutte out of LSU and Dell out of Houston are intriguing players I would consider in the draft.

Safety I would draft Smith out of Georgia.

I would also draft a developmental QB in the later rounds such as Cunningham out of Louisville or the kid from Fresno State who won MVP honors at the Senior Bowl. 

[GKnight83]

OL - I would draft a center in R3 or R4

[OilfieldJet]

34 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

 

RT: Becton, Mitchell

Hahahahaha, seriously, what’s your plan for RT?

[freestater]

37 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Aside from QB, it’s OL.

I would resign McGovern to a 2yr $8M/year deal.
I think Daune Brown will retire.

Then I would draft

1st: OT Broderick Jones

2nd: iOL John Michael Schmidt (provide depth year 1 and start year 2)

1 of the Day 3 picks for a developmental OT.

 

LT: Jones, Day 3 OT

LG: Tomlinson

C : McGovern, JMS

RG: AVT, Herbig

RT: Becton, Mitchell

I like this but would slide JMS over to guard for the year rather than retain Tomlinson 

[Sperm Edwards]

6 minutes ago, freestater said:

I like this but would slide JMS over to guard for the year rather than retain Tomlinson 

It appears $10MM of his salary is guaranteed. Tomlinson isn’t going anywhere in 2023, but what a letdown. Best we can hope is he rebounds. 

[More Cowbell]

I would still go LB in round 1. We have to stop the run. I know we still need to ad to the OL but from what I have read, this draft is deep in OL. 

[Sperm Edwards]

47 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Aside from QB, it’s OL.

I would resign McGovern to a 2yr $8M/year deal.
I think Daune Brown will retire.

Then I would draft

1st: OT Broderick Jones

2nd: iOL John Michael Schmidt (provide depth year 1 and start year 2)

1 of the Day 3 picks for a developmental OT.

 

LT: Jones, Day 3 OT

LG: Tomlinson

C : McGovern, JMS

RG: AVT, Herbig

RT: Becton, Mitchell

They aren’t drafting a guard in round 2, let alone after getting UFA Herbig to agree to re-sign here at backup money.

They aren’t going to be able to re-sign McGovern at just $8MM/year.

Brown will probably not retire. He’ll get shoulder surgery he delayed, will want to start, and is under contract for $9MM. They may address that contract after the draft, depending what they do in round 1 and how Becton/Mitchell look in camp, but there’s been no indication he wants to retire.

The elephant in the room on picks is what’s surrendered to acquire top target Rodgers. If they get that done, it’s reasonable to expect some trading down. 

[Ron Rico]

I believe you build your team around the offensive and defensive line. Linemen play a significant role on every single play, they aren't afforded the option to dog it if their number isn't called. If they don't get it right, I don't care how great your action/playmakers are, you will never be a championship team. It's great that the Jets have arguably the best CB in the league, but every time Sauce makes a play, it mean more often than not the opponent is moving the chains. JD needs to retain Quinnen, keep him happy and prevent a hold out.

On offense, we all saw the disaster unfold last year. JD has to take a Tackle in the first round. This idea that you can wait and get good offensive linemen in the later rounds is too risky, particularly this year. Patriots have 3 picks in RD 4 and 4 picks in RD 6. They can afford to pick action/playmakers in rounds 1 through 3, Jets can't. 

[Ron Rico]

55 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

We have no reliable anything on the OL. 

We have one G that had a season ending injury and one that was downright awful.

T's we have zero...

We don't even have a C under contract.

The OL is a mess and in need of a full overhaul.

Exactly. It's not like we're looking for a missing piece in a puzzle. If ever was a time to completely rebuild the O-line, this year is it. There's been zero coherency or stability on the O-line for several years, now. You see the teams that go far in the playoffs or win SB's, they have a core O-line year after year (a Center, 1 Guard and 1 Tackle, preferably a Left Tackle) with interchangeable parts if required at the other Guard and Tackle position. The idea is to keep 4 or 5 guys play together in back to back seasons, or better yet, multiple seasons. Look at the turnover rate on the Jets O-line since JD took over as GM. It's a disaster.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Stark said:

Pretty similar to the makeup of our line. Probablem is both out 1st rounders hurt and Max hurt. Sure they signed Tomlinson but outside of that it seems Health was the issue. If JD drafts line in 2nd, 3rd or 4th rd you basically have same pics 
 

think JD gets it solidified. 

"Doing it all wrong".  lmfao  Such a terrible take.  It just hasnt worked but the approach, is fine.

JD has had 3 drafts, took OL in the first round of 2 of them.  He took development prospect in 2 of the 3 as well.  Cam Clark and Max Mitchell.  Fant, when signed, was in the league 4 years, Connor McGovern was signed after 3 years w/ the Broncos.  That is called, their prime.  Tomlinson, is 31 coming off a probowl season familiar w/ the system is the only "big name veteran OL" they signed until Brown who was signed out of necessity in camp when Becton went down and is the only qualifier on the OL for the "back 9 of his career" category.    

 

 

[Warfish]

12 hours ago, hawk said:

We all want to know who the Starting QB will be in 2023 and we all have our opinions.  Other than that, where do the Jets need to put the highest priority?

You could argue Offensive Line, but how would you fix it?

You could say a replacement for Lawson or Mosley.

For me, I think safety position is the weak link in the Defense.  I for one would look to target Jessie Bates, or CJ Gardner-Johnson in Free Agency AND draft a kid in the 3rd or 4th round.  Ship Whitehead out.

What you got?

1. Offensive Line.  Spend our 1st and 2nd on O-line this Draft, FA backfill elsewhere as needed for depth.

2. A 2nd RB with HR hitter/Take-it-to-the-House potential.  (Carter/Knight aren't good enough IMO).  3rd round pick territory.

3. D-Line and LB (resign our own guys, with maybe an upgrade in LB talent (via FA))

4. New 4th WR and WR depth (Mims and Berrios cannot be counted on).  Mid-tier draft pick.

5. Safety, mid-late draft or FA

6. DB Depth, mid-late draft or FA

Building a team that can/should compete regardless of who the QB is.

[PepPep]

I think its obvious that after the QB, JD needs to, at minimum, patch up this o-line. 

I don't agree with some that say that the o0line is in complete shambles. That we have 'no OTs' for example. Say what you will about durability, health, consistency and quality of player. But if you are just looking at players under contract we have x2 starting caliber OTs (Becton+Brown) and x1 that will be competing for a starting spot (Mitchell). We have two starters coming back at G (AVT and Tomlinson). The problem is that there are major question marks surrounding all of these guys. And JD cannot rely on them without bringing in reinforcements- either via the draft, FA or both. 

But first and foremost, JD needs to address the C position, where we have a massive hole with McGovern being a FA. 

So, to me the order is this:

1. QB

2. O-line. Specifically C. But also depth/reinforcements. Preferably at OT where Brown could retire and Becton is coming off serous injury. 

3. QW. This is something the Jets should button up early on to avoid distractions. 

4. LB. Quincy and Kwon are FAs. Sherwood looked good in limited snaps. But the Jets need to keep as much of this defense together as possible. 

5. S. We need a starter at FS. Joyner is a FA. We should probably upgrade anyway.  

6. Shoring up the IDL. Shep, Rankins and Thomas are all FAs. The Jets need some viable depth next to QW. 

7. Adding a playmaker on offense. Right now, the WR corps the Jets have should be adequate. Especially if they bring in a stud QB. You would think guys who struggled last year with Zach, White and Flacco will do better with a guy like Carr or Rodgers. However, If they cut Berrios and/or Davis to free up cap, the need for another playmaker definitely increases and this goes up a couple of spots. 

8. Punter/Kicker. I think Mann's time has run out. You either cut the guy and let him try to find another gig or you sign a punter to compete with him. As far as Kicker, well 'Legatron' is a FA. We need to bring him back.   

[Stark]

1 minute ago, JiF4Lamar said:

"Doing it all wrong".  lmfao  Such a terrible take.  It just hasnt worked but the approach, is fine.

JD has had 3 drafts, took OL in the first round of 2 of them.  He took development prospect in 2 of the 3 as well.  Cam Clark and Max Mitchell.  Fant, when signed, was in the league 4 years, Connor McGovern was signed after 3 years w/ the Broncos.  That is called, their prime.  Tomlinson, is 31 coming off a probowl season familiar w/ the system is the only "big name veteran OL" they signed until Brown who was signed out of necessity in camp when Becton went down and is the only qualifier on the OL for the "back 9 of his career" category.    

 

 

yeah bit of a ludicrous comment on his part. 

if Becton can be healthy and play like he did his rookie year and plays either T spot to that level , AVT is a stud we don't have to worry about.... JD grabs a T and maybe a C all we need is health and our line should be pretty good. Mitchell looked ok before the blood clots. TOmilison was underwhelming, could be because our T/C next to him had him trying to overcompensate. not sure but I think our line will be fine after FA/Draft ad it will be comprised of drafted guys like Philly for the most part