2023 Yankees Thread

[Leftylarry]

On 3/26/2023 at 1:44 PM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees are going to be so bad this year, buckle up.

Fans said the same thing last season and Yankees immediately blew away the division.

this could be a reverse of last season, where Yankees had the devastating injuries late, DJ, Benentendi, Carpenter, most of the relievers, etc. Etc.

this year, guys like Bader, Rodon and Sevy who are key guys but injured in March , will all be healthy relatively soon and there’s no rush.

already we have seen Brito is a real guy and he never gets a chance if Sevvy and Rodon aren’t injured.

Yes, getting Montas back 100% is a longshot but amongst Brito, Schmidt and German, Yankees still have a legit fifth starter who will emerge and the minor league system is loaded with pitchers fairly close .

To me, it’s all about Stanton and Donaldson for Yankees, can’t have Stanton hitting into double plays to end games and Donaldson needs to hit .250 with 25ish dingers and Yankees should be fine.

[JustEndTheSuffering]

1 minute ago, Leftylarry said:

Fans said the same thing last season and Yankees immediately blew away the division.

this could be a reverse of last season, where Yankees had the devastating injuries late, DJ, Benentendi, Carpenter, most of the relievers, etc. Etc.

this year, guys like Bader, Rodon and Sevy who are key guys but injured in March , will all be healthy relatively soon and there’s no rush.

already we have seen Brito is a real guy and he never gets a chance if Sevvy and Rodon aren’t injured.

Yes, getting Montas back 100% is a longshot but amongst Brito, Schmidt and German, Yankees still have a legit fifth starter who will emerge and the minor league system is loaded with pitchers fairly close .

To me, it’s all about Stanton and Donaldson for Yankees, can’t have Stanton hitting into double plays to end games and Donaldson needs to hit .250 with 25ish dingers and Yankees should be fine.

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

[#27TheDominator]

18 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

That is what is wrong with these discussions.  Expectations are so high that it is easy to say something silly like this and almost be able to be back it up.  If the team were more likeable people would fight you.  Still, this comment is ridiculous.  

In case I have to spell it out, teams that are not good do not get to the ALCS.

[bicketybam]

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

They lost to the the eventual champions. Come on.

[Rhg1084]

3 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

There’s a difference btwn being bad and losing in the ALCS. The Tigers are bad. The Yankees are good. The Astros were better last year. This year? Who knows maybe we’ve closed the gap with them 

[#27TheDominator]

10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

There’s a difference btwn being bad and losing in the ALCS. The Tigers are bad. The Yankees are good. The Astros were better last year. This year? Who knows maybe we’ve closed the gap with them 

Right.  They are playing Volpe and people are clamoring for them to add more of the youth, but they act like the success of the team is predetermined in April.  There is still a fair chance that they move Torres for a decent chip.  People can say that the team was overachieving early last year and they knew it wouldn't last, but IMO a big part of that was being a TEAM and playing defense.  When the pen started getting hurt things went south.  

[Barton]

5 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

That is what is wrong with these discussions.  Expectations are so high that it is easy to say something silly like this and almost be able to be back it up.  If the team were more likeable people would fight you.  Still, this comment is ridiculous.  

In case I have to spell it out, teams that are not good do not get to the ALCS.

They were .500 in the 2nd half of the season 

[Leftylarry]

2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Right.  They are playing Volpe and people are clamoring for them to add more of the youth, but they act like the success of the team is predetermined in April.  There is still a fair chance that they move Torres for a decent chip.  People can say that the team was overachieving early last year and they knew it wouldn't last, but IMO a big part of that was being a TEAM and playing defense.  When the pen started getting hurt things went south.  

I am a big believer that Torres will probably disappoint after getting his big contract, get lackadaisical  and probably get fat again but right now he seems hyper-focused and though Yankees have DJ to play 2nd, i think they need to hold onto GLeyber, let him have a big season and then trade him for a nice piece.

I mean Yankees have lost one game this season and could have won that one too, if Stanton didn't hit into a game ending double play.

I actually trust Gleyber much more in a must situation then I trust Stanton and his 480 foot HR's when Yankees are ahead early.

[Leftylarry]

31 minutes ago, Barton said:

They were .500 in the 2nd half of the season 

This had nothing to do with the loss of DJ, Carpenter, Benentendi and all the relievers that went down and all the money in  Chapman and Britton that yielded nothing?

This is a better team, it has a chance.

[JustEndTheSuffering]

6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

That is what is wrong with these discussions.  Expectations are so high that it is easy to say something silly like this and almost be able to be back it up.  If the team were more likeable people would fight you.  Still, this comment is ridiculous.  

In case I have to spell it out, teams that are not good do not get to the ALCS.

 

3 hours ago, bicketybam said:

6 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

They lost to the the eventual champions. Come on.

 

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

There’s a difference btwn being bad and losing in the ALCS. The Tigers are bad. The Yankees are good. The Astros were better last year. This year? Who knows maybe we’ve closed the gap with them 

Awesome, glad that getting our sh*t kicked in on national TV for 4 straight games is considered good enough with Yankees fans now. That shouldn't be the standard. 

[JustEndTheSuffering]

15 minutes ago, Leftylarry said:

This had nothing to do with the loss of DJ, Carpenter, Benentendi and all the relievers that went down and all the money in  Chapman and Britton that yielded nothing?

This is a better team, it has a chance.

Is it a better team? Volpe seems to be a very nice addition but that's it. Other than him the lineup is almost exactly the same.

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

 

 

Awesome, glad that getting our sh*t kicked in on national TV for 4 straight games is considered good enough with Yankees fans now. That shouldn't be the standard. 

You're ridiculous.  

[JustEndTheSuffering]

49 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

You're ridiculous.  

How?

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

How?

Top 4 team in MLB is "not good."  That is the definition of ridiculous.  Nobody said the performance was "good enough."  We all want more, but you can run it back with the same team and do better.  It is a long season and the roster is a long way from complete.  

[JustEndTheSuffering]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Top 4 team in MLB is "not good."  That is the definition of ridiculous.  Nobody said the performance was "good enough."  We all want more, but you can run it back with the same team and do better.  It is a long season and the roster is a long way from complete.  

You act like we were at all close to beating Houston. There was obviously a HUGE gap in the AL last year. 

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

You act like we were at all close to beating Houston. There was obviously a HUGE gap in the AL last year. 

Between us and ONE team.  Also not for the entire year.  I repeat.  Ridiculous. 

[JustEndTheSuffering]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Between us and ONE team.  Also not for the entire year.  I repeat.  Ridiculous. 

So you admitted the gap was big. I want to be wrong but as things currently stand we're still not close.

[#27TheDominator]

31 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

So you admitted the gap was big. I want to be wrong but as things currently stand we're still not close.

You said they aren't good.  That is wrong.  It is a stupid statement.  I am done with this silliness.

[Barton]

It’s all gonna start clicking for Donaldson at some point, right Cashman? 

[chirorob]

On 4/4/2023 at 8:03 AM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

Yeah, bad teams are always making the ALCS

[chirorob]

4 hours ago, Barton said:

It’s all gonna start clicking for Donaldson at some point, right Cashman? 

Horrible trade, inexcusable.

[Barton]

47 minutes ago, chirorob said:

Horrible trade, inexcusable.

Worst part is they keep playing him AND batting him 5th, a key rbi spot. The guy hit .220 last year and like .190 w/risp. Stuff like this, hicks etc, going cheap in left field. Rubs me the wrong way.

[Leftylarry]

23 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

 

 

Awesome, glad that getting our sh*t kicked in on national TV for 4 straight games is considered good enough with Yankees fans now. That shouldn't be the standard. 

Who said anything about the STANDARD.

we said destroying the Eastern division early and limping home with an injury riddled to team into the playoffs was not a terrible season or terrible team.

[Leftylarry]

4 hours ago, chirorob said:

Horrible trade, inexcusable.

Ok, how horrible?

Urshella batted higher than Donaldson, they had similar HRs and RBI numbers and Donaldson, statistically fielded better .

Gary Sanchez crapped out , IKF gave the Yankees a solid .260 at SS and solid fielding, ran the bases well and had quite. Few clutch hits.

People forget Rortveld was highly regarded as a LH good defensive catcher , who Yankees thought had  emerging 20 HR power in Yankee stadium nd the guy immediately got hurt and cannot seem to beat football type injuries, not normal baseball injuries, bad luck stuff.

I do not like Cashman, think he stinks but that trade wasn’t horrible, pretty much unlucky.

Gary was a cancer, Gio a soft player and Yankees IMO wouldn’t have been better last season with Gary and Gio in the line up every day instead of IKF and Donaldson, who had a bad year.

Rortveld was the killer in that deal, guy had potential.

[JustEndTheSuffering]

14 minutes ago, Leftylarry said:

Who said anything about the STANDARD.

we said destroying the Eastern division early and limping home with an injury riddled to team into the playoffs was not a terrible season or terrible team.

Because the standard matters when measuring a season's success. Getting embarrassed in the ALCS is a terrible season for the Yankees. It's good for the Baltimore Orioles.

[Smashmouth]

On 4/4/2023 at 3:54 PM, #27TheDominator said:

Top 4 team in MLB is "not good."  That is the definition of ridiculous.  Nobody said the performance was "good enough."  We all want more, but you can run it back with the same team and do better.  It is a long season and the roster is a long way from complete.  

The Yankees are good but they are not built for a short series 5 or 7 game vs a team with good pitching that can also manufacture a run when needed while the Yankees wait for the 3 run homer that never comes. I think we can match teams pitching but damn us to hell if we need one or 2 runs after the 7th inning. This team can not manufacture a run to save their lives. They are managed that way and they are built that way.

The Yankees will always win 95 + games by default because you can put a lineup out there that can feast on bad pitching during the year/ 

Continuing to march sh*theads like Donaldson out there makes me sick when we have young players rotting in the Minors for years as trade bait for the next 35 year old has been,

For a little perspective the Yankees led MLB in getting shut out and scoring 1 run the numbers were staggering they simply can not hit good pitching and that fact is elevated in the playoffs. Homerun or strikeout is what they were last year hopefully with a healthy DJ and Volpe we can try to do better in the run manufacture department lets see how it effects the numbers this year. But I fear if you start seeing this team constantly getting owned by good pitching hopes for a playoff series victory becomes much less a possibility.

Dominguez was electric this spring and mid way through even though he was tearing it up he got sent back even though he has 3 years in the minors yet its OK to have a guy like Donaldson striking out all over the ******* place and batting below 200..... Move DJ to 3rd Torres has earned some time at second and keep Volpe at SS Now we got Kiner Falefa playing center because Bader is an injury walking into the damn clubhouse so its a better choice for scrubs like Hicks to get time while our big 5 tool player rots in the minors for another year . Cashman is an idiot and while he cant help but field a good team due to the money available to him he has no clue how to build a playoff WINNING team.

[chirorob]

2 hours ago, Leftylarry said:

Ok, how horrible?

Urshella batted higher than Donaldson, they had similar HRs and RBI numbers and Donaldson, statistically fielded better .

Gary Sanchez crapped out , IKF gave the Yankees a solid .260 at SS and solid fielding, ran the bases well and had quite. Few clutch hits.

People forget Rortveld was highly regarded as a LH good defensive catcher , who Yankees thought had  emerging 20 HR power in Yankee stadium nd the guy immediately got hurt and cannot seem to beat football type injuries, not normal baseball injuries, bad luck stuff.

I do not like Cashman, think he stinks but that trade wasn’t horrible, pretty much unlucky.

Gary was a cancer, Gio a soft player and Yankees IMO wouldn’t have been better last season with Gary and Gio in the line up every day instead of IKF and Donaldson, who had a bad year.

Rortveld was the killer in that deal, guy had potential.

Gary was on a 1 year, cheap deal.  He could just be cut, not picked up for the season.

Donaldson was/is on a 2 year, 50 million dollar contract.  Cashman took on a huge amount of salary to bring in IKF, a decent fielding, 260 hitter (with no pop).   Then, he extended IKF for 6 million this year, when they had their 2 best prospects coming up, both of whom play SS.

[Leftylarry]

On 4/4/2023 at 6:33 PM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

You act like we were at all close to beating Houston. There was obviously a HUGE gap in the AL last year. 

Yes and With Benentendi, a healthy Carpenter and DJ Lemahieu in the lineup , it’s a different team.

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 4/4/2023 at 9:03 AM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

The astros own them just like they own everyone else

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 4/5/2023 at 4:01 PM, Leftylarry said:

Ok, how horrible?

Urshella batted higher than Donaldson, they had similar HRs and RBI numbers and Donaldson, statistically fielded better .

Gary Sanchez crapped out , IKF gave the Yankees a solid .260 at SS and solid fielding, ran the bases well and had quite. Few clutch hits.

People forget Rortveld was highly regarded as a LH good defensive catcher , who Yankees thought had  emerging 20 HR power in Yankee stadium nd the guy immediately got hurt and cannot seem to beat football type injuries, not normal baseball injuries, bad luck stuff.

I do not like Cashman, think he stinks but that trade wasn’t horrible, pretty much unlucky.

Gary was a cancer, Gio a soft player and Yankees IMO wouldn’t have been better last season with Gary and Gio in the line up every day instead of IKF and Donaldson, who had a bad year.

Rortveld was the killer in that deal, guy had potential.

Donaldson stinks and has a lousy contract. IKF is mediocre.  Volpe easily took his job. Yay, you got rid of Gary and we now have 2 catchers that can’t hit.  Urshela is a better third baseman than Donaldson 

 

 

Yankees real problem is pitching which has been totally mismanaged by Cashman.  Cole is our only legit starter.  Rodon is out at least a month and Severino is totally unreliable.  Nestor is a glorified middle reliever.  Clay Holmes as closer for an entire season is asking for trouble

[bicketybam]

Donaldson stinks and has a lousy contract. IKF is mediocre.  Volpe easily took his job. Yay, you got rid of Gary and we now have 2 catchers that can’t hit.  Urshela is a better third baseman than Donaldson 
 
 
Yankees real problem is pitching which has been totally mismanaged by Cashman.  Cole is our only legit starter.  Rodon is out at least a month and Severino is totally unreliable.  Nestor is a glorified middle reliever.  Clay Holmes as closer for an entire season is asking for trouble

Cortes is not a glorified middle reliever and Holmes will be fine.

[JustEndTheSuffering]

2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Donaldson stinks and has a lousy contract. IKF is mediocre.  Volpe easily took his job. Yay, you got rid of Gary and we now have 2 catchers that can’t hit.  Urshela is a better third baseman than Donaldson 

 

 

Yankees real problem is pitching which has been totally mismanaged by Cashman.  Cole is our only legit starter.  Rodon is out at least a month and Severino is totally unreliable.  Nestor is a glorified middle reliever.  Clay Holmes as closer for an entire season is asking for trouble

Gary couldn't hit either it's a great thing he isn't on the team anymore.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

On 4/4/2023 at 9:03 AM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Yankees were still bad last year. Good teams don’t get their asses kicked the way they did in the ALCS. 

This sums up Yankees fans.  This is why Judge gets booed in Yankee Stadium.  Spoiled, entitled, and obnoxious.  How can you enjoy a sport and a team if anything short of a championship is a "bad" season?   

[#27TheDominator]

3 hours ago, bicketybam said:

 

 

Cortes is not a glorified middle reliever and Holmes will be fine.

 

and they could have kept Gary and had 3 catchers that can't hit and one that cant catch.

[Maxman]

13 hours ago, bicketybam said:

 

 

Cortes is not a glorified middle reliever and Holmes will be fine.

 

I am not sure on Holmes.