Beerfish Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Strouds the best looking thrower of footballs here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Strouds the best looking thrower of footballs here. Stroud and Bennett have probably been the two most impressive passers today. Stroud is QB1 for me. Consistent, accurate and he makes it look so easy. Bennett had a chance to show that he has a better arm than he has been given credit for and he threw some beautiful deep balls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 This is why you do not opt out of the combine unless there is a really really good reason. (Bryce Young) Richardson, Stroud, Levis all showed something special. Now teams are still going to go by game tape more than anything else but if you have two guys really close this can be an influence. I put more stock in combine where you are doing what they tell you to do, off script and in comparisons to others. Everyone looks great at their totally scripted pro days. (Well except for Teddy Bridgewater.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, Lith said: Stroud and Bennett have probably been the two most impressive passers today. Stroud is QB1 for me. Consistent, accurate and he makes it look so easy. Bennett had a chance to show that he has a better arm than he has been given credit for and he threw some beautiful deep balls. I have Stroud as QB1 as well. Effortless thrower who always puts it right where he wants to. I think he also has more playmaking ability than he's shown in college. Fields didn't run as much at Ohio State either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: This is why you do not opt out of the combine unless there is a really really good reason. (Bryce Young) Richardson, Stroud, Levis all showed something special. Now teams are still going to go by game tape more than anything else but if you have two guys really close this can be an influence. I put more stock in combine where you are doing what they tell you to do, off script and in comparisons to others. Everyone looks great at their totally scripted pro days. (Well except for Teddy Bridgewater.) Did Levis throw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, maury77 said: Did Levis throw? Yes, his big arm was evident. Accuracy no better than the rest but yes big arm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, maury77 said: I have Stroud as QB1 as well. Effortless thrower who always puts it right where he wants to. I think he also has more playmaking ability than he's shown in college. Fields didn't run as much at Ohio State either. Yup. I was sold after I saw what he did against us. Escapabiity, accuracy, throwing on the run.. He checked every box in that game. He made plays oon the move when he had to -- he just didn't have to that much during the season. Today just affirms it -- it just looks so easy for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Richardson almost blows his knee out doing a back flip after the drills. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 About time for my annual plea to NFL Network to add a graphic to the screen letting us know who the receiver is on each rep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Dead last in the vert for Darnell Washington. But at 6'6" with an 84" wingspan, he may not need to jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Paging @Paradis, we have a small school tight end standing 6'7" who just jumped 40" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 MY GUY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, Lith said: Dead last in the vert for Darnell Washington. But at 6'6" with an 84" wingspan, he may not need to jump. Heard some talk this week that Washington could eventually make his money as a tackle convert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Lith said: Dead last in the vert for Darnell Washington. But at 6'6" with an 84" wingspan, he may not need to jump. Not surprised, he is not agile at all, hate to throw shade on a Georgia guy but he is not a great TE prospect for me. Blocking TE perhaps? But he is not in the same league as a guy like Jelani woods from last year as far as being a plus sized TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: It's early but so far the Wrs times are sloth like. This WR class underwhelms a bit. The TE class though, me likey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I understand the Jets have holes at other positions, but this is such a good TE class that it would be a shame to not see the Jets pick one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: This is why you do not opt out of the combine unless there is a really really good reason. (Bryce Young) Richardson, Stroud, Levis all showed something special. Now teams are still going to go by game tape more than anything else but if you have two guys really close this can be an influence. I put more stock in combine where you are doing what they tell you to do, off script and in comparisons to others. Everyone looks great at their totally scripted pro days. (Well except for Teddy Bridgewater.) Plus, the scouts can stand there and see first hand how they compare. , side by side. If you remember, it was the combine that absolutely destroyed Kizer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 5 hours ago, maury77 said: Paging @Paradis, we have a small school tight end standing 6'7" who just jumped 40" lol the old dominion kid? It would seem sexy at first glance, but the Paradis Paper on this guy is less kind; Highly recruited, landed at PSU and couldn't do anything for like 2-3 seasons. Transferred and had some success, but had all the buzz coming into 2022 and laid an egg. He's like 24 or something. I'm learning. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Beerfish said: Bryce Young 5'10, 204 pounds. The 204 pounds is pretty surprising. He is on the TBHGH12 program... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 JSN at 13 and don’t look back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: No surprised, he is not agile at all, hate to throw shade on a Georgia guy but he is not a great TE prospect for me. Blocking TE perhaps? But he is not in the same league as a guy like Jelani woods from last year as far as being a plus sized TE. I like Washington. He can block like a tackle. Has good hands. Runs well. And he is huge. Too fast to be covered by a LB and too big for a Safety. He is never going to run precise routes, but he can be a great red zone target, and you sen dhim up the seam and he can be dangerous. I am not saying he is a first round prospect, but I tihnk he wil be a very good NFL player and he has a high floor, albeit with a low ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Lith said: I like Washington. He can block like a tackle. Has good hands. Runs well. And he is huge. Too fast to be covered by a LB and too big for a Safety. He is never going to run precise routes, but he can be a great red zone target, and you sen dhim up the seam and he can be dangerous. I am not saying he is a first round prospect, but I tihnk he wil be a very good NFL player and he has a high floor, albeit with a low ceiling. You saw him more than me obviously so i'll defer to you but in the games I saw last year they talked him up a lot and I just did not see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Lith said: Stroud and Bennett have probably been the two most impressive passers today. Stroud is QB1 for me. Consistent, accurate and he makes it look so easy. Bennett had a chance to show that he has a better arm than he has been given credit for and he threw some beautiful deep balls. Stroud did one hell of a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, maury77 said: I understand the Jets have holes at other positions, but this is such a good TE class that it would be a shame to not see the Jets pick one. They could get a solid TE prospect in the 4th there’s so many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Beerfish said: Strouds the best looking thrower of footballs here. Gotta watch out with Stroud: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I thought this was very cool of Garrett Wilson, pumping up JSN. Says he’s better than both himself and Olave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Beerfish said: Duggan 4.52 pretty good for a QB Jordan Addision 4.55....not too impressive Addison’s second run was better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Gotta watch out with Stroud: I'd have to see film of the break downs to get a good judgment on that stat as well as the raw numbers as how often is he actually pressured to kill him on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I'd have to see film of the break downs to get a good judgment on that stat as well as the raw numbers as how often is he actually pressured to kill him on it. Pressured on ~23% of his dropbacks (99 of 423 drops). Time to throw on those snaps: 4.02 seconds. Suggests he’s not particularly resourceful out of structure or on second reaction plays, which had been the knock on him in the leadup to the Georgia game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I’ll take one JSN at 13, please. This guy is the next Cooper Kupp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, BigRy56 said: JSN at 13 and don’t look back There's the door --> https://forums.jetnation.com/forum/18-nfl-draft/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, PS17 said: I’ll take one JSN at 13, please. This guy is the next Cooper Kupp. Jesus, you guys are multiplying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Jesus, you guys are multiplying. I didn't expect him to test that well either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Paradis said: Jesus, you guys are multiplying. The guy is a natural at WR. Elite athlete, hugely productive at age 19 at a mega program that has become a WR factory. Olave and Wilson wax poetic about him. What am I missing here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Beerfish said: It's early but so far the Wrs times are sloth like. this is where we get caught up a little bit. Slower times but they all play faster. Hyatt ran like a 4.4, but on film he looks like one of the fastest players on the field every week in a uber talented conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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