How does a last place finish get us the Chiefs, Eagles and Cowboys?

[Flashlite80]

I was shocked when I looked at our 2023 opponents.  I thought you don't play the top teams when you finish last.  Something to consider when we say we will make the playoffs.  We are scheduled to play the NL  East.  So we get the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants and Commanders.  We also play the Chiefs.  That's a pretty tough schedule right there.  

It's something when you finish last and get both Super Bowl teams on your schedule.

 

[Ghost]

It is kinda annoying but I think looking at future opponents is irrelevant. When the schedule came out last year, I looked at the first half of our schedule with fear. Facing the Broncos at Denver and Packers at GB looked like games we had a 0% chance of winning and we dominated. 

[Barry McCockinner]

Because the AFCE plays the AFCW & NFCE this year (see 2nd & 3rd bullet points). There are only 3 games based on how you finished last year.

Here’s a breakdown of how each team’s opponents are set:

• Six games against divisional opponents — two games per team, one at home and one on the road.
• Four games against teams from a division within its conference — two games at home and two on the road.
• Four games against teams from a division in the other conference— two games at home and two on the road.
• Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.
• The new 17th game is an additional game against a non-conference opponent from a division that the team is not scheduled to play. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.

https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/creating-the-nfl-schedule/

[Lith]

We play other Divisions based on a rotation.  In 2023, we will play NFCE and AFCW -- that is why we have the Eagles and Chiefs.  Add the 6 AFCE games to those and that is 14 of our 17 games.  The last 3 are all last place teams from 2022: Browns, Texans and Falcons -- this is where the "advantage" fo finishing last impacts scheduling.

[jetblue95]

3 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

I was shocked when I looked at our 2023 opponents.  I thought you don't play the top teams when you finish last.  Something to consider when we say we will make the playoffs.  We are scheduled to play the NL  East.  So we get the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants and Commanders.  We also play the Chiefs.  That's a pretty tough schedule right there.  

It's something when you finish last and get both Super Bowl teams on your schedule.

 

 

you do realize every team in the AFC East this year will play every team in the NFC East and AFC West.  you always play 1 AFC division and 1 NFC division on a rotating basis.

then you play the other comparable place finishers in the 2 other AFC divisions.  the last place finish got the jets games against the texans and browns (last place of their respective divisions)

seems like atlanta is the added 17th game (not sure if there is any formula for who this last game is allocated league-wide)

[Maynard13]

It’s a stupid schedule scheme. Each team plays a rotating conference in opposing conferences. It’s really dumb. We should be playing all teams .500 and under and our conference rivals once. No need to be playing them twice.  The NFL teams change pretty quickly over a couple year span. They can figure a way for teams to play against each other that haven’t if a few years have passed. 

[Flashlite80]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Because the AFCE plays the AFCW & NFCE this year (see 2nd & 3rd bullet points). There are only 3 games based on how you finished last year.

Here’s a breakdown of how each team’s opponents are set:

• Six games against divisional opponents — two games per team, one at home and one on the road.
• Four games against teams from a division within its conference — two games at home and two on the road.
• Four games against teams from a division in the other conference— two games at home and two on the road.
• Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.
• The new 17th game is an additional game against a non-conference opponent from a division that the team is not scheduled to play. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.

https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/creating-the-nfl-schedule/

Got it.  They used to say last place teams played other than the first place team.  I see that is not true anymore.  Jets have the corners to stop those top teams if the offense can produce.

[Tranquilo]

Last place didn't get us them.

First place got them US

[slats]

26 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

Got it.  They used to say last place teams played other than the first place team.  I see that is not true anymore.  Jets have the corners to stop those top teams if the offense can produce.

First/last place schedule hasn’t been much of a thing for over 20 years now. Only opponents different for the Jets than the rest of the division are Houston, Atlanta, and Cleveland. 

[IndianaJet]

 

2 hours ago, jetblue95 said:

 

 

seems like atlanta is the added 17th game (not sure if there is any formula for who this last game is allocated league-wide)

The 17th game is determined on a rotation as well.  Essentially, you play the same placed NFC team, from the NFC division you played 2 years ago.

In 2021, the Jets played the NFC South.  So the extra NFC game for 2023 is the 2022 last place team from the NFC south....in this case, Atlanta.

The 17th game is rotated home vs. away by conference every year.  In 2021, the first year of the extra game, AFC had home field, in 2022 NFC had home field, in 2023 the AFC has home field.

In 2024 the extra game for the Jets will be at an NFC North team - based upon the final division standings from 2023.  So, if both the Packers and the Jets finish in 2nd place this year, the Jets (and Rodgers?) will play at Green Bay next year.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-17-game-schedule-heres-how-the-complicated-scheduling-formula-will-work-with-the-extra-game/

[Dunnie]

If the Jets are scared they've already lost.

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[#27TheDominator]

2 hours ago, Ghost said:

It is kinda annoying but I think looking at future opponents is irrelevant. When the schedule came out last year, I looked at the first half of our schedule with fear. Facing the Broncos at Denver and Packers at GB looked like games we had a 0% chance of winning and we dominated. 

Yeah, remember how we were going to heat up at the end of the season by rolling over the Lions and Jaguars?

[jetsons]

eh... Play who's in front of you, Regardless... Any Given Sunday. 

[UntouchableCrew]

Only three games in your schedule are determined by where you finish -- those earned us the Browns, Texans and Falcons. Bills are playing Bengals, Jaguars, and Bucs in their place.

The other 14 games are set years in advance based on a rotation.

[UntouchableCrew]

29 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Yeah, remember how we were going to heat up at the end of the season by rolling over the Lions and Jaguars?

It would have been a tough sell in the preseason that we'd be 6-3 before the BYE and 1-7 after.

[LAD_Brooklyn]

We play the AFC west this coming season. Plus we get to play in Las Vegas and Dallas. If any of you fans never traveled, these are two must see trips to place on your bucket list. Two beautiful stadiums and cities to visit. 

[y2k8]

 

The scheduling format is the absolute most equitable formula for determining the next season's schedule.

The NFL is set up as a year long competition to win a  4 team division. 

Those 4 teams play the exact same schedule with the exception of 3 games. And those 3 games are determined by previous year's finish.

They should never change this format. 

 

[Bronx]

Let's simplify things, the 2023 NY Pigeons record is going to be 5-12.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It would have been a tough sell in the preseason that we'd be 6-3 before the BYE and 1-7 after.

I'm still not sure I believe it.

[JetsFanatic]

4 hours ago, Flashlite80 said:

I was shocked when I looked at our 2023 opponents.  I thought you don't play the top teams when you finish last.  Something to consider when we say we will make the playoffs.  We are scheduled to play the NL  East.  So we get the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants and Commanders.  We also play the Chiefs.  That's a pretty tough schedule right there.  

It's something when you finish last and get both Super Bowl teams on your schedule.

 

It’s not the 1980s anymore, there is no big difference in scheduling for coming in last.

[Maynard13]

3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It would have been a tough sell in the preseason that we'd be 6-3 before the BYE and 1-7 after.

And they seemed to get worse and worse as the season went on after that 6-3 start. I knew we were done after Breece went down but it just kept swirling, swirling, swirling downward. The 2022 NY Jets