jetsrule128 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Derek Carr has made it clear that he intends for his free agent process to be a lengthy one. For at least one of the teams he has met with, though, a quick ending would be preferred, Adam La Rose of Pro Football Rumors reports. During an appearance on the Official Jets Podcast, ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler noted that the Saints are “ready” to sign Carr. He added that they “want to get something done” with Carr, illustrating how well the two meetings which have taken place between the parties have gone. New Orleans has long been connected to the 31-year-old, who is the top quarterback on the market at this time. When a trade was thought to be a possibility, the Saints were reportedly in agreement with the Raiders on compensation after Carr’s first visit to New Orleans. The four-time Pro Bowler forced Vegas to release him, though, not as a sign of disinterest in the Saints but rather a means of allowing himself to hit the open market and leverage the best possible contract for the next chapter of his career. That move opened up the number of suitors interested in at least a short-term QB upgrade. New Orleans faced a difficult cap situation last offseason, but general manager Mickey Loomis carved out enough space to make the team a serious contender for Deshaun Watson. After the latter was ultimately traded to the Browns, though, the Saints elected to use a pairing of Jameis Winston and Andy Dalton under center in 2023. Their collective performance left plenty to be desired, and it would come as no surprise if Carr or a similar veteran were brought in to solidify the position. New Orleans has begun this year’s cap gymnastics, but they still have a long way to go. The Saints are currently more than $30MM over the cap, and not much is certain for them under center. Dalton is a pending free agent, and one year remains on Winston’s contract. Releasing the former first overall pick would yield $4.4MM in savings, a relatively modest amount but one which would nevertheless move the team closer to being able to afford the $35MM AAV Carr is believed to be seeking. The Saints and Jets met with Carr not only last month, but during this week’s combine as well. Loomis and head coach Dennis Allen spoke positively about their sit-down, and their support of the potential of a deal taking shape. The Panthers, another team which could be a significant player in this year’s quarterback market, is also set to meet with Carr, though. Not surprisingly, Fowler adds that the former second-rounder is likely to remain patient in the name of setting up a bidding war for his services, especially if Aaron Rodgers and/or Lamar Jackson don’t end up becoming available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Ruh roh... If he signs before Rodgers it puts the Jets in a very tough spot. GB then holds all the cards - #13 is gone for sure - possibly another 1 next year too. 1 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Of course they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 i'd imagine the jets are ready too. if they weren't, they probably wouldn't have taken a second meeting. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 They’re ready to sign him now and Carr wants to wait. Translation: He wants the Jets and is waiting the Rodgers drama to unfold but will wait it out. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 I don't understand why fans aren't understanding that both these QBs control the process.....it doesn't matter what the Saints or Jets are ready to do. 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, heymangold said: i'd imagine the jets are ready too. if they weren't, they probably wouldn't have taken a second meeting. Jets are waiting on Rodgers. Rodgers is option 1 by a lot. Until Rodgers signs with the Jets or goes somewhere else the Jets aren't signing anyone. They're spending time with Carr in case Rodgers falls through - doing their Due Diligence, but don't expect the Jets to do anything until Rodgers is signed. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MichaelScott Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Ruh roh... If he signs before Rodgers it puts the Jets in a very tough spot. GB then holds all the cards - #13 is gone for sure - possibly another 1 next year too. If the Jets trade 13 for a declining rental on a team that's not ready to compete for a superbowl, I will lose my f*cking mind and my lunch. If they trade if they trade more than 13 (ESPECIALLY TWO FIRSTS) for said declining rental head case, I tap out. That might finally be the breaking point for me and this mess of a franchise. 8 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 If the Saints have been ready to sign him, as multiple reports have indicated and Carr wanted the Saints, he would have signed. If he wasn’t interested in the Jets why hasn’t he? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, undertow said: I don't understand why fans aren't understanding that both these QBs control the process.....it doesn't matter what the Saints or Jets are ready to do. Well, the Saints can make him an offer that's too good to refuse. It's surely possible. Probably in Carr's best interest to wait out the Rodgers process - but you don't know for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MichaelScott said: If the Jets trade 13 for a declining rental on a team that's not ready to compete for a superbowl, I will lose my f*cking mind and my lunch. If they trade if they trade more than 13 (ESPECIALLY TWO FIRSTS) for said declining rental head case, I tap out. That might finally be the breaking point for me and this mess of a franchise. I'm 100% with you but I feel like a 1st is a foregone conclusion at this point. Maybe it's next years - but I think the Jets are too committed at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: If the Saints have been ready to sign him, as multiple reports have indicated and Carr wanted the Saints, he would have signed. If he wasn’t interested in the Jets why hasn’t he? Needs the jets to increase the saints offer. If the jets really really wanted carr woody would throw enough money at him and the deal would be done. And carr knows this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: If the Jets trade 13 for a declining rental on a team that's not ready to compete for a superbowl, I will lose my f*cking mind and my lunch. If they trade if they trade more than 13 (ESPECIALLY TWO FIRSTS) for said declining rental head case, I tap out. That might finally be the breaking point for me and this mess of a franchise. Desperate men do irrational things, and JD is a desperate man. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I'm sure New Orleans is ready and if NOLA was Carr's preferred destination then he would have already signed. I think Carr really likes the Saleh "good vibes only" gimmick and probably Joe Douglas' down-to-earth "I'm a ball player at heart" gimmick. So he'll wait until Rodgers and the Jets stop playing "just the tip" and see if it's in or if its out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: Needs the jets to increase the saints offer. If the jets really really wanted carr woody would throw enough money at him and the deal would be done. And carr knows this. Bingo idk why this isn’t obvious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Ron Rico said: Desperate men do irrational things, and JD is a desperate man. This feels like as much of a Woody call as anything else. - but I think desperation sits with the three of them. JD, RS and WJ.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, FidelioJet said: This feels like as much of a Woody call as anything else. - but I think desperation sits with the three of them. JD, RS and WJ.... Woody loves headlines. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 The Saints have been pushing cap hits forward more than any other team in the NFL. If they don't face some sort of eventual come-uppance, then the whole system needs to be looked at. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashmouth Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Ruh roh... If he signs before Rodgers it puts the Jets in a very tough spot. GB then holds all the cards - #13 is gone for sure - possibly another 1 next year too. The Jets are not trading number 13 for Rodgers. It will be a conditional 3rd next year with the possibility of becoming a 2nd if Playoffs a first if SB. If the Packers want to unload Rodgers and his salary if they can't come to an agreement, they are in a tough spot as well. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Jets are waiting on Rodgers. Rodgers is option 1 by a lot. Until Rodgers signs with the Jets or goes somewhere else the Jets aren't signing anyone. They're spending time with Carr in case Rodgers falls through - doing their Due Diligence, but don't expect the Jets to do anything until Rodgers is signed. This is sad but true I suspect. On the upside, AR does save the job of whom might very well become the best GM in franchise history so there is that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said: The Jets are not trading number 13 for Rodgers. It will be a conditional 3rd next year with the possibility of becoming a 2nd if Playoffs a first if SB. If the Packers want to unload Rodgers and his salary if they can't come to an agreement, they are in a tough spot as well. I can see a 3rd this year and a conditional next year that escalates depending on how Rodgers does. But it’s hard to see a scenario where douglas trades 13 this year. His trades have been just amazing and i doubt he gets ripped off on this one. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, LIJetsFan said: This is sad but true I suspect. On the upside, AR does save the job of whom might very well become the best GM is franchise history so there is that. This is the second time in four years the Jets have entered the off season without a functional NFL QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Jets are waiting on Rodgers. Rodgers is option 1 by a lot. Until Rodgers signs with the Jets or goes somewhere else the Jets aren't signing anyone. They're spending time with Carr in case Rodgers falls through - doing their Due Diligence, but don't expect the Jets to do anything until Rodgers is signed. i don't think rodgers is that much further an option 1 than carr in the jets eyes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, FidelioJet said: Well, the Saints can make him an offer that's too good to refuse. It's surely possible. Probably in Carr's best interest to wait out the Rodgers process - but you don't know for sure. Carr has made it a point to say multiple times he was gonna take his time and most interested in fit....these teams have had meetings with Carr and his people I'm sure the process is understood....at this point I think if Carr signals he wants to play for the Jets they will sign him even Rodgers supporters think it's time for a decision...if it comes out later that Carr wanted to play for the Jets and they turned him down to wait for Rodgers and he went back to GB people can criticize the team then but I don't think that's what's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Needs the jets to increase the saints offer. If the jets really really wanted carr woody would throw enough money at him and the deal would be done. And carr knows this. 6 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Bingo idk why this isn’t obvious Because it's not the facts, it's just one guys guess at what is happening stated as if it were facts. Do you actually believe you know what the Jets management are thinking, what they would have done if they were thinking something else and what Carr is thinking? Amazing given you have no idea what conversations have gone on behind closed doors. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: If the Jets trade 13 for a declining rental on a team that's not ready to compete for a superbowl, I will lose my f*cking mind and my lunch. If they trade if they trade more than 13 (ESPECIALLY TWO FIRSTS) for said declining rental head case, I tap out. That might finally be the breaking point for me and this mess of a franchise. Me waiting for JD to build a team ready to win a Super Bowl 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 If I had to guess, I think Green Bay wants too much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Needs the jets to increase the saints offer. If the jets really really wanted carr woody would throw enough money at him and the deal would be done. And carr knows this. Or he’s stringing the Saints along to increase the Jets offer? Jets are waiting on Rodgers, everyone knows this, including Carr. He’s not stupid. He’s not using the Jets to up the Saints offer. He’s waiting and hoping that Rodgers doesn’t become available to the Jets. Either way, nowhere has it been said he’s ready to sign with NO, only in someone’s opinion that they’d like to sign Carr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 The NY Jets haven’t developed a QB for decades and it has been the "non-stop bleeding wound" of this organization. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: If the Jets trade 13 for a declining rental on a team that's not ready to compete for a superbowl, I will lose my f*cking mind and my lunch. If they trade if they trade more than 13 (ESPECIALLY TWO FIRSTS) for said declining rental head case, I tap out. That might finally be the breaking point for me and this mess of a franchise. Yeah, but then we can do all this sh*t again next year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Or he’s stringing the Saints along to increase the Jets offer? Jets are waiting on Rodgers, everyone knows this, including Carr. He’s not stupid. He’s not using the Jets to up the Saints offer. He’s waiting and hoping that Rodgers doesn’t become available to the Jets. If Rodgers doesn’t go to the jets then carr can play the jets against the saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just now, Augustiniak said: If Rodgers doesn’t go to the jets then carr can play the jets against the saints. So we see him play no matter what? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Well, Saints are in a weaker division for sure. Plus, they get to play their home games inside...does that influence Carr if the money being offered is close? It would me...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, jetsrule128 said: The Saints are currently more than $30MM over the cap LOL 30 is a very big number...you would have to cut or restructure half the team....you think DC was playing with bad defenses with the Raiders? hahahahahhaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 negotiation via the twitter. JD knows better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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