Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, ptisme said: You have no idea which party is being unreasonable. I beg to disagree. From all accounts, it's Packers trying to up the terms of the deal. Coincidentally, ever since Rodgers embarrassed the Packers of that Mcafee show. Jets want Rodgers, but can and will pivot to a lesser choice if need be. Packers need Rodgers gone, not just for Jordan Love's benefit, but otherwise they have two years of irreparable cap damage. It'll all get done before the draft. There is no way Green Bay turns down that upcoming 2nd round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, HighPitch said: there thread would be much better if it had more speculation and redundancy You can say that again. You can say that again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Creepy Lurker Posted March 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: You can say that again. You can say that again. 4 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 hours ago, Paradis said: How long have you been a Jets fan. Too long. 37 years. I could be delusional but I really think Rodgers gives this team a legit shot at the division and a run for an afc championship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mogglez said: @football guy (click the tweet to expand) This is where we’ve been at for nearly a week now though. So is finances really taking that long to iron out? Or is GB just dragging it out to be pricks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Sammybighead said: Totally fine if the condition is getting to the superbowl in 2023 (or at least AFCCG). My only real hangup was not giving up #13. Beyond that, I can stomach most anything else (within reason of course). The condition being the Super Bowl is totally unrealistic, and isn’t going to happen. The pick will depend on whether he plays a second season or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, ptisme said: Diva. You have no idea which party is being unreasonable. He’s our resident empty barrel. (Always makes a lot of noise) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: The condition being the Super Bowl is totally unrealistic, and isn’t going to happen. The pick will depend on whether he plays a second season or not. that'd have to be in 2025. doubt we do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dcat said: I beg to disagree. From all accounts, it's Packers trying to up the terms of the deal. Coincidentally, ever since Rodgers embarrassed the Packers of that Mcafee show. Jets want Rodgers, but can and will pivot to a lesser choice if need be. Packers need Rodgers gone, not just for Jordan Love's benefit, but otherwise they have two years of irreparable cap damage. It'll all get done before the draft. There is no way Green Bay turns down that upcoming 2nd round pick. Rodgers embarrassed himself on Mcafee's show. Everyone knows his been dicking them around for several off-season. This was one of many. Doubt that’s at all in play. Wouldn’t surprise me if Rodgers wants more money from the Jets and the Jets want GB to kick in. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptisme Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Better than “ off to the draft forum” before Christmas likes it’s been for a decade plus. The mere fact we may be able to convince ourselves we have even the smallest of chances for the entire season. Is worth it. To me anyhow. I think ur gonna be happy campers as soon as OTAs when you see perfectly placed tight spirals zipped all over the field 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptisme Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dcat said: I beg to disagree. From all accounts, it's Packers trying to up the terms of the deal. Coincidentally, ever since Rodgers embarrassed the Packers of that Mcafee show. Jets want Rodgers, but can and will pivot to a lesser choice if need be. Packers need Rodgers gone, not just for Jordan Love's benefit, but otherwise they have two years of irreparable cap damage. It'll all get done before the draft. There is no way Green Bay turns down that upcoming 2nd round pick. Send me a link to the credible report that shows a deal was in place and GB changed the terms. No buzzfeed please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptisme Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, hotrodcharlie said: The Jets are the ONLY team with interest. That’s the only reason why Would he go to the Texans if they were the only team with interest? Lots to desire here: Hackett and not having to learn a new offense weapons defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, ptisme said: Send me a link to the credible report that shows a deal was in place and GB changed the terms. No buzzfeed please Lol. There were no credible reports in the mainstream media at any stage or aspect of this story from Day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, ptisme said: Send me a link to the credible report that shows a deal was in place and GB changed the terms. No buzzfeed please So our billionaire owner took time out of his life to fly to California and talk to Rodgers without knowing the parameters of a FEASIBLE and ACCEPTABLE trade which could actually occur were in place? Yeah, that sounds plausible ? There are no possible reports yet (which you know and will conveniently hide behind). But when they do come out, I'm sure you'll be nowhere to be found to apologize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Lol. There were no credible reports in the mainstream media at any stage or aspect of this story from Day 1. How about reports from the underground media? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Tranquilo said: How about reports from the underground media? Scroll back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Lol. There were no credible reports in the mainstream media at any stage or aspect of this story from Day 1. There have been no credible reports from the mainstream media...period. Some of them are filling the emptiness with speculation wrapped with a thin layer of 'unnamed sources from within the organization'. You know the drill, post every possibility over time and when something happens, necro the post that was right and tell everyone how connected you were. At this point, it really amazes me how long this has gone on without credible leaks. We all want to believe GB is bungling this but we really don't know. I think it's more based on the fact that we have had three years to learn to trust that JD is a professional, and we don't know jack about the GB people so it's easy to make assumptions. Truth is...even after the deal gets done, we may never know what this was all about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: @football guy (click the tweet to expand) He's correct 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, football guy said: He's correct So you’re saying this will be over by my 67th birthday? I’m currently 65? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, ptisme said: I think ur gonna be happy campers as soon as OTAs when you see perfectly placed tight spirals zipped all over the field 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodcharlie Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, ptisme said: Would he go to the Texans if they were the only team with interest? Lots to desire here: Hackett and not having to learn a new offense weapons defense IF the Texans were the only team interested in paying him $100 million over the next 2 years, yes I do think he would want to go there. but the Texans aren't interested. only the Jets are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, section314 said: So you’re saying this will be over by my 67th birthday? I’m currently 65? Lol I get the sense it will get done at the owner's meetings. The NFL needs the machine to keep going, so they have motivation to help get this thing finalized as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, ptisme said: Send me a link to the credible report that shows a deal was in place and GB changed the terms. No buzzfeed please Your source was right here in this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: This is where we’ve been at for nearly a week now though. So is finances really taking that long to iron out? Or And is GB just dragging it out to be pricks? I still think they are millions apart and it is taking that long . I also think the second item is true. ^fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptisme Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 53 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Lol. There were no credible reports in the mainstream media at any stage or aspect of this story from Day 1. Hmm so I guess we don’t really know if GB changed their initial agreement. Got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptisme Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 53 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: So our billionaire owner took time out of his life to fly to California and talk to Rodgers without knowing the parameters of a FEASIBLE and ACCEPTABLE trade which could actually occur were in place? Yeah, that sounds plausible ? There are no possible reports yet (which you know and will conveniently hide behind). But when they do come out, I'm sure you'll be nowhere to be found to apologize. Ur the one making a slanderous claim. What do I have for apologizing for? Asking you to back up ur slander? Of it keeps you from cracking a bottle before noon then I apologize for asking you to back up ur claim. Have a good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, ptisme said: Hmm so I guess we don’t really know if GB changed their initial agreement. Got it You probably don't know, but don't lump me into your "we". Got it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2023 In dealing with the Packers, it’s time for the Jets to act like New Yorkers Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2023, 10:24 AM EDT It’s been a week since quarterback Aaron Rodgers made a public plea for the Packers to be reasonable in their expectations from the Jets. In the past seven days, neither team has budged. The Packers, as Rodgers said, are digging in their heels. The Packers, as we have reported, are content to wait until the draftto do a deal. The Packers, as I personally believe, have allowed the situation to become petty, and personal. It’s not personal. It’s strictly business. And it’s time for the Jets to take a page from the Marty Lyons playbook and give the Packers the business. These are the New York Jets. Technically, the New Jersey Jets. They should start demonstrating some of the attitude that those in their fan base would exhibit when dealing with difficult people in challenging situations. The Jets need to go on the offensive. They perhaps need to be a little offensive. They need to tell the Packers how it’s going to be. Why do you think Packers CEO Mark Murphy has suddenly opted to zip it? They know they’re running a grift by acting like they have the upper hand. They don’t. They owe Rodgers nearly $60 million, fully guaranteed, for 2023. If they don’t trade him by Week One, his $58.3 million roster bonus becomes 2023 base salary — sending his cap number through the roof. Amazingly, there are smart (supposedly) people who think the Packers actually have the leverage here. Much of the media has fallen in line with that mindset. But the Jets don’t need Rodgers right now. They don’t need him for the early stages of the offseason program. They arguably don’t need him for OTAs, not when he: (1) knows the playbook like the back of his giant hand; and (2) probably doesn’t want to show up before training camp, anyway. It’s always critical, in a deadline-driven business, to get two negotiating parties to agree on the deadline. The Packers think the deadline is draft. The Jets should take the initiative and say, “No, it’s the start of training camp.” The Jets should make a non-negotiable offer that will remain open until the 2023 draft. They should tell the Packers that, after the 2023 draft, the non-negotiable offer will pivot to the 2024 draft — and possibly 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. They should tell the Packers the non-negotiable offer stays on the table until training camp opens. At the same time, Rodgers should tell the Packers that, if he’s not traded before the start of training camp, he’ll be showing up, just like Brett Favre did 15 years ago. Rodgers should tell the Packers that he’ll be there, and that he’ll stay there, until he’s traded. Rodgers also should tell the Packers that he fully expects to participate in practice (by rule, the team can’t put him on ice), creating the risk that he’ll suffer a season-ending injury that will put the Packers firmly on the hook for his full compensation package. It will take coordination and commitment from the Jets and Rodgers to pull this off. But the Packers have been punking the Jets in part because the Packers believe they can. The Jets need to punch back, aggressively, to make the Packers realize that they don’t hold the cards on this. Taking an aggressive stand with the Packers would have a collateral benefit. Rodgers clearly wants someone to take up his cause that the Packers are being prickly (or prick-y) about the situation. If the Jets tell the Packers to shove your feckin’ cheese up your ass, Rodgers will become even more determined to do everything he can to repay the Jets with a great performance in 2023. Hell, maybe he’ll even gather his future teammates in California or wherever to get acquainted with them, on and off the field, as he moves closer to inevitably becoming a member of the team. That’s the reality here. He will inevitably be a Jet. At the very absolute latest, it will happen just before Week One. The practical deadline is (or should be) the opening of camp. The sooner the Packers realize that, no, they don’t have the better of the leverage here, the sooner the deal will be done and everyone can move on. And the best way to make that happen will be for the Jets to start acting like they’re from the place where the state bird is the middle finger. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, ptisme said: Hmm so I guess we don’t really know if GB changed their initial agreement. Got it Believe what you want. GB trying to act like they held all the cards and even got all their media friends (like those on Sirius NFL Network) claiming that GB has all the leverage. It's fairly obvious what's happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, ptisme said: Ur the one making a slanderous claim. What do I have for apologizing for? Asking you to back up ur slander? Of it keeps you from cracking a bottle before noon then I apologize for asking you to back up ur claim. Have a good one It's not slander. It's nonsense but it's not slander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: @football guy (click the tweet to expand) Really starting to feel like Rob Schneider trying to negotiate a muchentuchen franchise out of John Turturro in Zohan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, ptisme said: Ur the one making a slanderous claim. What do I have for apologizing for? Asking you to back up ur slander? Of it keeps you from cracking a bottle before noon then I apologize for asking you to back up ur claim. Have a good one LOL @slanderous. Have a seat counselor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: there thread would be much better if it had more speculation and redundancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Again The Packers don't want him the Jets do. The Packers and the Jets are actually business partners and share revenue together. That said Rodgers wants more money. The Packers don't want to pay it and neither do the Jets. This is about money. The draft picks are also tied to money. It's Rodgers who's likely the problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Dcat said: You can say that again. You can say that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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