Aaron Rodgers to the Jets rumor: Merged

[The Crusher]

19 minutes ago, bitonti said:

have they though? 

Deal still not done, JD being stubborn, thinks he has leverage when really they don't have a QB and GB has 2

Even I can't derail a 320 page thread

Aaron Rodgers is washed. Ask Chat GPT it knows. 

 

Yes they have. They are honestly making an effort to get better and compete. Haven't done that in forever. Likely misguided but the fact remains they are trying to field a better QB than they did last year. Not that hard, but they seem to be swinging for the fences at least from their perspective. 

[Sammybighead]

18 minutes ago, bitonti said:

i left the board for a whole year after they drafted Zach 

because people didn't want to hear my misery

spoiler alert it didn't make Zach any better

our comments by the way have no impact on the team one way or the other 

the Jets are not santa claus in elf. They don't need us to believe in them to fly the sleigh 

No but it made the year slightly more tolerable as we slowly came to the conclusion that zach sucks by ourselves 

[extmenace]

23 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

A lot in here but let’s hope Boomer is right. Sign OBJ and keep Davis? Jeez - the Jets would have a starting caliber receiver pretty much at every WR slot.

Then there’s the AR12 money talk - would love it if he restructured into a very team friendly deal. I wouldn’t be shocked if he did this as a part of his revenge tour.

The recording is in the subtweet

Interesting. Maybe this is why the packers are shooting high for compensation? they know that the jets are getting rodgers with a discount?

[Tranquilo]

Just now, extmenace said:

Interesting. Maybe this is why the packers are shooting high for compensation? they know that the jets are getting rodgers with a discount?

Getting him with a discount double check

[Bobby816]

Just now, extmenace said:

Interesting. Maybe this is why the packers are shooting high for compensation? they know that the jets are getting rodgers with a discount?

I see in no way why JD would tell GB about our plans to restructure AR so we have more cap space to build the roster for a win now run.

[RutgersJetFan]

12 minutes ago, dcJet said:

@bitonti has a valid point though.  I'm very concerned about Breece's comeback.

True, Peterson did come back quickly and so did Dalvin Cook but those guys are more one cut power backs.   Breece's game is incredible speed and quickness with sharp cuts which may take a longer time to recover. 

Breece and Saquon are kind of similar styes.  We all saw Saquon's diminished skill one year after.  He was a 4.7 yds/carry guy.  Came back the next year at 3.7 and looked less quick.  Two years later (last year) he regained most of his quickness.  This may be what we see from Breece.

JK Dobbins is not the same style runner as Breece, but has not been the same since his acl tear.

I'm concerned too. But I love Hall and he's the most exciting offensive player they've drafted since Toon, so I have to hold on to some hope here. Jets football was significantly less fun to watch once he went down.

[Claymation]

7 minutes ago, ptisme said:

Not sure where you get that:

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/how-does-an-aaron-rodgers-trade-impact-green-bays-cap/

My mistake, I added the dead cap over the next 2 years. But you are correct the total would 8 million roughly before the draft.

https://overthecap.com/explaining-the-salary-cap-implications-of-trading-aaron-rodgers

https://overthecap.com/a-few-details-and-thoughts-on-the-aaron-rodgers-contract-trade-discussions

[ptisme]

2 minutes ago, Claymation said:

My mistake, I added the dead cap over the next 2 years. But you are correct the total would 8 million roughly before the draft.

https://overthecap.com/explaining-the-salary-cap-implications-of-trading-aaron-rodgers

https://overthecap.com/a-few-details-and-thoughts-on-the-aaron-rodgers-contract-trade-discussions

Either way we weren’t gong to be players inFA this off season

[Green Ghost]

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board... The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll” …and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right.
I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and so have many others through the years. Now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 

If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

[ptisme]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board.

The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll”

…and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right. I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 
If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

I would say this: when you have a window you go for it.   Most of the time the odds are you will fall short.   But creating windows and going for it are how you win the Super Bowl.   I’ve lived through 10 years of my team being passive.   The Packers thought they could have their cake and eat it too.   They kept building for the future rather than using those draft assets and going for jt.   We’ve had 13 years of being in the playoffs and coming up short.   The playoffs might sound good to you but believe me, if you lose ur last game you’ll always wonder what if

[bitonti]

16 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

No but it made the year slightly more tolerable as we slowly came to the conclusion that zach sucks by ourselves 

fair enough, bro fair enough 

that's like post-of-the-week material 

 

***

 

speaking of poker the reason I don't like this Aaron Rodgers thing is it feels like the odds are too low for what the pot offers

to put it into Hold Em terms. Trading for Aaron Rodgers is like drawing to an inside straight after the flop. It's like 8 percent by the way

the Jets are currently +1400 to win the SB which is 6.67 implied odds so I'm not pulling that 8 percent out of thin air. 

when people say, "but they are close to a Super Bowl and have to try" that's implied odds looking at the great prize of winning it all.

Or saying Yes if I hit this straight, I take this fool's whole stack. 

but 92% of the time you don't and even counting for implied odds it doesn't seem like a smart bet

and what's the cost? JD is going all-in. There's no future for him in NY if he trades for Arod, and that whole thing washes out on him. There's probably no future for him anyway, after Zach. with the stakes that they are in cap hell in 25 and 26

 

Or, if you play golf, it's like taking a 4 iron to the fairway bunker when what you need to do is get it out of there with a pitching wedge 

 

Take your lumps in other words and live to fight another day 

 

Or if you don't play golf or poker it's like eating dinner from candy bars in the vending machine not cooking yourself a meal like an adult 

it's fun but there's a price to pay

What would I do?

Keep the picks, build a program, find a QB mid round like Sam Howell or Brock Perdy, and take your medicine. 

it's not popular but the Jets need to build a program not eat their dinner from the candy bucket 

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, ptisme said:

I would say this: when you have a window you go for it.   Most of the time the odds are you will fall short.   But creating windows and going for it are how you win the Super Bowl.   I’ve lived through 10 years of my team being passive.   The Packers thought they could have their cake and eat it too.   They kept building for the future rather than using those draft assets and going for jt.   We’ve had 13 years of being in the playoffs and coming up short.   The playoffs might sound good to you but believe me, if you lose ur last game you’ll always wonder what if

I get what you’re saying, and I agree. What I’m talking about though is completely different however.

. I’m referring to the herd like mentality of ridiculing someone for not buying what the team is selling, or what the majority of the board is saying. In the case of the Jets (and JetNation) the guy who bucks the tide is almost always proven correct in the long run.

 

[bitonti]

9 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board... The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll” …and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right.
I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and so have many others through the years. Now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 

If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

[RutgersJetFan]

11 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board... The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll” …and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right.
I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and so have many others through the years. Now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 

If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

Piling on bitonti and treating him like dirt is every Jetnation member's god given right.

[The Crusher]

48 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Oh no it probably is

The way I see it I'm driving page count to Max. Who does more for this site than me? 

but the real question is do you feel sorry for me? 

because I can't really function unless a few hundred people feel sorry for me at any given time 

 

I respect as the man you are. 

[NIGHT STALKER]

9 minutes ago, ptisme said:

I would say this: when you have a window you go for it.   Most of the time the odds are you will fall short.   But creating windows and going for it are how you win the Super Bowl.   I’ve lived through 10 years of my team being passive.   The Packers thought they could have their cake and eat it too.   They kept building for the future rather than using those draft assets and going for jt.   We’ve had 13 years of being in the playoffs and coming up short.   The playoffs might sound good to you but believe me, if you lose ur last game you’ll always wonder what if

We already know what it means or how it feels to lose in a AFC championship game.

[The Crusher]

15 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board... The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll” …and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right.
I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and so have many others through the years. Now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 

If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

OMG! Are you the dick that yells out how the  movie ends halfway through? 

[Biggs]

26 minutes ago, ptisme said:

I would say this: when you have a window you go for it.   Most of the time the odds are you will fall short.   But creating windows and going for it are how you win the Super Bowl.   I’ve lived through 10 years of my team being passive.   The Packers thought they could have their cake and eat it too.   They kept building for the future rather than using those draft assets and going for jt.   We’ve had 13 years of being in the playoffs and coming up short.   The playoffs might sound good to you but believe me, if you lose ur last game you’ll always wonder what if

The Packers had SB ready teams almost every year Rodgers has been in GB.   Eli Manning and Kaepernick both outplayed him in huge playoff games in GB.  Carson Palmer and Matt Ryan outplayed him in huge playoff games.

Rodgers has been great statistically in the regular season and the playoffs.  He's also been outplayed at home with the better team in several playoff games.   He's had some good moments in elimination games, he's also felt the pressure and underperformed QB' in elimination games on his home field.  

The Packers have had a long window with a top flight QB and only got over the hump once with Rodgers.  The got to the big game 2 with Favre and won 5 championship games with Starr.   The windows and talent haven't been the problem.  It's the leadership on the field in the big moments.  Coaching also has a lot to do with it.  

The Jets don't have a SB caliber coaching staff let alone a window.  It's a prayer.  

[Lith]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

Aaron Rodgers is washed. Ask Chat GPT it knows. 

No actually, it doesn't.

Is Aaron Rodgers Washed?

 

 

As an AI language model, I cannot make subjective judgments or opinions about individuals or their abilities. However, I can provide some objective information about Aaron Rodgers' recent performance in the NFL.

Aaron Rodgers is currently the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers and has been playing in the NFL for over a decade. In the 2020 NFL season, he led the Packers to a 13-3 record and won the MVP award for his outstanding performance, throwing for 4,299 yards and 48 touchdowns with only 5 interceptions. This is an indication that he is still performing at a high level and is considered one of the top quarterbacks in the league.

It is worth noting that performance can fluctuate for any athlete, and factors such as injuries, team dynamics, and overall strategy can impact an individual's performance. Therefore, it is important to consider a range of factors when evaluating a player's performance rather than simply relying on subjective opinions.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

No actually, it doesn't.

Is Aaron Rodgers Washed?

 

 

As an AI language model, I cannot make subjective judgments or opinions about individuals or their abilities. However, I can provide some objective information about Aaron Rodgers' recent performance in the NFL.

Aaron Rodgers is currently the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers and has been playing in the NFL for over a decade. In the 2020 NFL season, he led the Packers to a 13-3 record and won the MVP award for his outstanding performance, throwing for 4,299 yards and 48 touchdowns with only 5 interceptions. This is an indication that he is still performing at a high level and is considered one of the top quarterbacks in the league.

It is worth noting that performance can fluctuate for any athlete, and factors such as injuries, team dynamics, and overall strategy can impact an individual's performance. Therefore, it is important to consider a range of factors when evaluating a player's performance rather than simply relying on subjective opinions.

Imagine a Jets QB playing a complete season and only throwing 5 picks? 

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

because I can't really function unless a few hundred people feel sorry for me at any given time 

Tell them about the time you got accosted by CBNY in the bathroom at the senior bowl and peed on yourself.

[Green Ghost]

24 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

OMG! Are you the dick that yells out how the  movie ends halfway through? 

[jetblue95]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

have they though? 

Deal still not done, JD being stubborn, thinks he has leverage when really they don't have a QB and GB has 2

 

 

not sure that having 2 QBs, with the desire to play love, which means paying $60 million for your backup, is such a great position to be in.

in the end, if this game of mutual assured destruction ends with neither side blinking and the rumored trade falls apart, the jets can still pivot to other QB options.  granted they may not be aaron rodgers, but they can look into lamar jackson or explore a trade for matt stafford or ryan tannehill (both are probably available, their current teams' denials notwithstanding), or wait for the inevitable post-draft shake-out when a team drafts a QB and is looking to get rid of a veteran, or bring in a teddy b-type QB and draft another one this year.

the packers on the other hand - if the trade falls apart - owe aaron rodgers $60 million and need to come to a decision on love's 5th year option.

so sure, mathematically, 2 > 0, but then again, $60 million > $0

[JETS SB]

Much rather be part of the crowd that has hope, than the ones that live every year like Groundhog Day. It makes life much more enjoyable. I choose to buy in to the plan. If I am proven wrong, then it won’t be the first time. If I am proven right, you all will find something else to complain about. 

[Larz]

It’s almost like the packers have a reason to wait and the jets are ok with it because Rodgers isn’t really a fan of voluntary workouts 

If the draft comes and goes, JJ or Davis and a conditional 2024 pick should do it. 

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

Yes they have. They are honestly making an effort to get better and compete. Haven't done that in forever. Likely misguided but the fact remains they are trying to field a better QB than they did last year. Not that hard, but they seem to be swinging for the fences at least from their perspective. 

Where have we gotten better so far? Frankly all I’m seeing is a worsening of the team to this point. Downgrades or sidegrades at best.  Very unimpressed with this off-season so far.

Basically we’re in “Rodgers will fix it all” land now….before we have Rodgers. Just waiting to see how much we have to fork over for him…and when.

[ptisme]

 

[y2k8]

 

Bitoni does not make a compelling case that Arron Rodgers is washed up.

However, he does make a compelling case for Jets fans to light themselves on fire.

[dcJet]

1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

Here’s something I’ve noticed in the time I’ve been on this board... The people who “don’t buy in to the narrative the Jets want us to believe are always the ones to face ridicule.

”go root for another team” “you’re not really a Jets fan” “why are you always so miserable” “you’re a troll” …and yet, the people who question and criticize or don’t buy in to what the optos are selling are almost always proven right.
I went through it when I was the guy taking shots for being the first to say Darnold sucked, and so have many others through the years. Now it’s @bitonti’s turn. 

If I had to bet my money on whether Bit or the board ends up proven right in this discussion, I’m going with @bitonti all day long. History is on his side.

I'm not impressed.

If you take the negative on every Jets decision, you'll be right 90% of the time.  BFD.

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

Imagine a Jets QB playing a complete season and only throwing 5 picks? 

I can not imagine that.

[slats]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

Aaron Rodgers is washed. Ask Chat GPT it knows.

I’m impressed that you’ve had conversations with ChatGPT and it hasn’t killed itself. 

[Beerfish]

Oooooo  Bryce Youngs idol is Aaron Rodgers.....warning bells!   ?

 

[extmenace]

2 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

I see in no way why JD would tell GB about our plans to restructure AR so we have more cap space to build the roster for a win now run.

If there are “reports” about it, why wouldn’t the packers know? 

[Bobby816]

8 minutes ago, extmenace said:

If there are “reports” about it, why wouldn’t the packers know? 

You believe everything you read?

[Green Ghost]

47 minutes ago, dcJet said:

If you take the negative on every Jets decision, you'll be right 90% of the time.  BFD.