ob07 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I say its a 2 this year and a conditional pick if rodgers plays in 2024 , which could be a three to a one depending on he plays and performence... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFJF Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 this year 4 next year than can become a 1 or a 2 depending on post season success. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 Swap #13 for #15 (low 3rd value) & 4th rd. Pick 4th next year that can become 3rd or second on snap % and playoffs 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Day 2 pick like a 5th round or let them eat 100 million for someone they do not want and get nothing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Who is gettng fleeced? Will Fathead Joe keep his hot-fleecing streak going? Odds are against, GB can let this drag effortlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Whatever it is, it's likely going to be more than most Jets Fans will want it to be. So many of you think we have al the leverage, I think you'll be surprised what the final deal will be when it happens. Not in a good way. I still support this trade, regardless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2nd this year and 3rd next year that can become a 2 if we go to afccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 A 4th this year. A coke and a smile next year. If they want a pepsi instead they'll have to send back a 5th in 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, ob07 said: I say its a 2 this year and a conditional pick if rodgers plays in 2024 , which could be a three to a one depending on he plays and performence... they should just let him go with a Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) id say take them to the cleaners and offer them nothing ... but we will pickup the ludicrous contract they scripted. Edited March 15, 2023 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I think the trade doesn’t officially go through until after June 1st and therefore a 2024 2nd and a conditional 2025 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 At this point in time? A 2 this year and a conditional 1 or 2 next year If the Jets had set an earlier time limit when there was still viable alternatives? It would have been less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Warfish said: Whatever it is, it's likely going to be more than most Jets Fans will want it to be. So many of you think we have al the leverage, I think you'll be surprised what the final deal will be when it happens. Not in a good way. I still support this trade, regardless. The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, section314 said: The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. Both teams have leverage. Both also want the Rodgers-to-Jets outcome. And both win by having it happen sooner, rather than later. If JD has proven anything, it's that he can get a trade done. I think too many folks are panicking and/or thinking the worst at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bronx said: Who is gettng fleeced? Will Fathead Joe keep his hot-fleecing streak going? Odds are against, GB can let this drag effortlessly. No they can’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, section314 said: The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. Ok for the 100th time, the Packers have to trade him if they want to sign free agents. Makes no sense for them to wait. But the trade won’t be official until after June 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, section314 said: The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. Packers have very little leverage... Period STOP! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, section314 said: The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. No, they don't. They really can't wait us out as they need to move on for various reason including the cap and team building. They can't trade him elsewhere realistically. Despite not having a no trade any team that they trade him to has the threat of immediate retirement to think about. If the Pack try to screw him he can let the other team know plainly what will happen if he doesn't want to go there. The pack has no leverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Elijah Moore and a conditional pick next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Rodgers just told the world he was 90% retired 2 weeks ago. He also said that GB needs to do right by him. Any leverage gb had is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 There are other factors such as cash and players that can move this a lot, but if I were guessing just picks, I'd say this: 2023 2nd 2024 conditional 4th goes to 3rd if Jets make playoffs and he is on active roster at start of league year goes to 2nd if Jets make AFCCG and he is on active roster at start of league year. That I could live with. If he retires after one season, we will need the higher picks in 2024 to maneuver in the draft for a QB so I doubt we give away a high pick without substantial success and another year commitment. If we include a player like Davis or Mims, I would expect that to drop to a 2023 3rd, or eliminate the 2024 conditional pick entirely. Cash is hard to predict, but I believe there are options for one team or the other take on more cash/cap hit which would translate to more comp in their favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Sammybighead said: Rodgers just told the world he was 90% retired 2 weeks ago. He also said that GB needs to do right by him. Any leverage gb had is gone. Exactly... Not sure why people still feel the need to argue against this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 If GB has no leverage, this deal would have been announced at 4:01 EST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, section314 said: The Packers have the leverage. They have from March 17 to opening day to trade him. That can wait us out. They could also trade him to someone else. He doesn’t have a no trade. No team will take on that salary and cap hit unless Rodgers agrees to go there and play. At the moment, he appears to be committed to the Jets. If he chooses to stick to his guns, GB has no leverage at all. No-trade is meaningless in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Swap #13 for #15 (low 3rd value) & 4th rd. Pick 4th next year that can become 3rd or second on snap % and playoffs I like that. Good idea, 32EBoozer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, nycdan said: There are other factors such as cash and players that can move this a lot, but if I were guessing just picks, I'd say this: 2023 2nd 2024 conditional 4th goes to 3rd if Jets make playoffs and he is on active roster at start of league year goes to 2nd if Jets make AFCCG and he is on active roster at start of league year. That I could live with. If he retires after one season, we will need the higher picks in 2024 to maneuver in the draft for a QB so I doubt we give away a high pick without substantial success and another year commitment. If we include a player like Davis or Mims, I would expect that to drop to a 2023 3rd, or eliminate the 2024 conditional pick entirely. Cash is hard to predict, but I believe there are options for one team or the other take on more cash/cap hit which would translate to more comp in their favor. Only if they eat a good portion of the money. (2) 2nds is awfully rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bronx said: Who is gettng fleeced? Will Fathead Joe keep his hot-fleecing streak going? Odds are against, GB can let this drag effortlessly. Honestly! The Jets not getting him and getting the #1 pick next year is the second best outcome imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Skeptable said: Only if they eat a good portion of the money. (2) 2nds is awfully rich It's two 2nds if we make it to the AFCCG (or SB if you prefer). That's a price I would happily pay for that outcome, even for one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, nycdan said: It's two 2nds if we make it to the AFCCG (or SB if you prefer). That's a price I would happily pay for that outcome, even for one season. Sure.. That would be great... still with the leverage they have... very rich... JD wouldn't get played like that IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, section314 said: If GB has no leverage, this deal would have been announced at 4:01 EST. Having no real leverage doesn't mean that they can't try and pressure JD by just dragging their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, section314 said: If GB has no leverage, this deal would have been announced at 4:01 EST. Or maybe they're trying to save face by waiting a moment before acquiescing. Let's play this out: GB asks for more. Jets say no. GB is still has to move on, but is now stuck with a pissed off high priced player. Jets still say no. GB is still stuck. Jets start talking to B list QBs. GB is still stuck. Jets bring in a low price 1 year rental at QB, but they can still easily make space and accommodate AR. GB is still stuck. Are you seeing the pattern here? This is the reality which GB is facing and it isn't a sellers market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 37 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Swap #13 for #15 (low 3rd value) & 4th rd. Pick 4th next year that can become 3rd or second on snap % and playoffs That was my suggestion as well offer it when they won’t budge, gives them kind of a face save Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 A Jenn Sterger autographed Brett Favre Dick pick to hang in the Packers office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Depends on how much money GB covers. But assuming they don’t pickup part of the bonus: 3rd 2023, Corey Davis and a conditional 2024 pick that can become a 1st based on playing time and making the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I don't see either team having much "leverage" over the other. Both have something to gain here and something to lose. JD has a reputation for driving a hard bargain, though, and maybe GB gets stupid and draws a hard line. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, and soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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