We Should Trade for Ryan Kelly

[Bobby816]

Ryan Kelly is a top C and is 29. Still has several good years ahead of him. I highly doubt AR will want a rookie C working with him.

 

With Kelly you get close to elite play.

Trading for him likely will only cost a mid rounder.

His contract is cuttable after this next season. So maybe we rework his deal.

[GreenFish]

Do it.

Sign OBJ. Then trade Moore for Kelly. Done.

[32EBoozer]

3 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Ryan Kelly is a top C and is 29. Still has several good years ahead of him. I highly doubt AR will want a rookie C working with him.

 

With Kelly you get close to elite play.

Trading for him likely will only cost a mid rounder.

His contract is cuttable after this next season. So maybe we rework his deal.

If it were even a consideration.... it would be done after the draft. Not a bad idea, just too soon in the process.

[bla bla bla]

17 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Ryan Kelly is a top C and is 29. Still has several good years ahead of him. I highly doubt AR will want a rookie C working with him.

 

With Kelly you get close to elite play.

Trading for him likely will only cost a mid rounder.

His contract is cuttable after this next season. So maybe we rework his deal.

I do like the idea of adding Ryan Kelly but I think the Jets are targeting John Michael Schmitz.

Senior Bowl meeting

Combine meeting

Top 30 meeting

[Bobby816]

8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I do like the idea of adding Ryan Kelly but I think the Jets are targeting John Michael Schmitz.

Senior Bowl meeting

Combine meeting

Top 30 meeting

I love JMS.

I think 13 (or 15 if we swap 1sts with GB) are kind of high for a C. And doubt he’s there for our 2nd (our 2nd might be part of the trade).

 

So we’d have to trade back likely to get him. Or if we still have our 2nd possibly trade up for him (we did trade up for mangold).

 

I also question if AR wants a rookie C though

[Sperm Edwards]

The Colts once felt Kelly was worth $12.5MM per season. That decision was made in 2020, under a $198MM cap, with the further knowledge the 2021 season's cap was going to drop (and ultimately did, to $183MM). Let's say they didn't know it'd fall quite that far, and split the difference as assuming it'd merely drop to $190MM. 

Now entering 2023 they have him tied up at $10MM under a $225MM cap.

• $12.5MM of $190MM = 7% (with more than 2 years effectively guaranteed at signing)
• 10MM of $225MM = 4% (with $0 more guaranteed; year to year at the team's pleasure)

Put another way:

The team that knows him best, who determined he was deserving of a contract for 7% of their salary cap, has now determined he's no longer worth even 4% of their salary cap.

Further note that, instead of moving on from Kelly, they can clear more '23 space by restructuring any one of three others with $16-19MM base salaries (never mind just restructuring Kelly outright).

If he's so wonderful, why would they want to get rid of him when he's cheaper now than when they extended him, and they aren't in a desperate cap situation where he's become an unaffordable luxury?

Buyer beware.

[Zachtomims47]

Rookie centers are fine. Especially with a future HOFer at QB. Centers are usually pretty good from the start as rookies. 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

Let’s run with the Center In the first round scenario …

Where do we get another Tackle?  Third round assuming we trade our 2nd rounder?  I don’t see any free agents that fit the bill and we need to start developing a replacement when Brown retires.

This would complete the offense.

Part of the reason I believe this might be the Jets strategy revolves around Mekhi Becton.  Do they want to see how he plays this coming year before investing another 1st at the tackle position.  The counter to this is their real interest in signing Orlando Brown Jr.

[derp]

1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Let’s run with the Center In the first round scenario …

Where do we get another Tackle?  Third round assuming we trade our 2nd rounder?  I don’t see any free agents that fit the bill and we need to start developing a replacement when Brown retires.

This would complete the offense.

Part of the reason I believe this might be the Jets strategy revolves around Mekhi Becton.  Do they want to see how he plays this coming year before investing another 1st at the tackle position.  The counter to this is their real interest in signing Orlando Brown Jr.

They’re almost certainly not taking a center at 13. Drop down to the 20’s where a center could be in play would recoup them the theoretical second round pick they’re trading.

Think with Brown and Becton but both those guys for only one more year they need a developmental left tackle more than a day one starter at tackle - then if that guy is ready early, great.